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by mediev
Wed Mar 27, 2002 10:36 pm
Forum: Speak Your Mind
Topic: The Soviet Union
Replies: 33
Views: 1580

Oh, but I'm not responsible, Your Honor. Not at all! My actions were those of a member of my class, and directly influenced by society's degenerate behavior. I wasn't involved at all.

You've missed my point entirely; while factors like personal jealousy may have motivated events like the Kirov ...
by mediev
Wed Mar 27, 2002 9:45 pm
Forum: Speak Your Mind
Topic: The Soviet Union
Replies: 33
Views: 1580

the main problem I have with Communism is the fact that it has caused so many deaths in Russia and the surrounding countries of the Warsaw Pact. Is it fair to say that Communism, during Stalin's rule killed a lot more people than needed? I have problems accepting that an equal powerbase (as ...
by mediev
Wed Mar 27, 2002 7:12 am
Forum: Speak Your Mind
Topic: The Soviet Union
Replies: 33
Views: 1580

So, if I understand you correctly, Communism was a progressive movement, that allowed the Soviet people to live in great comfort with equal sharing of wealth?

Do you agree with this statement?

Obviously not; don't take this as an insult, but this looks more like a would-be justification for you ...
by mediev
Wed Mar 27, 2002 7:04 am
Forum: Speak Your Mind
Topic: Rogue states.
Replies: 96
Views: 4946

So you are suggesting that the Soviet Union is a proponent of Democracy?

How does stating that the USSR "forced American policy makers to restrain their efforts to terrorise and crush democracy overseas" imply that the USSR itself is internally free and "democratic"? The simple, and blazingly ...
by mediev
Wed Mar 27, 2002 6:10 am
Forum: Speak Your Mind
Topic: The Soviet Union
Replies: 33
Views: 1580

And what is your meaning of "progressive movements"?

A progressive movement, ie one that strives for the betterment of the political and economic conditions for the majority of the population; a relevant example to today's current events was the Russian support for the former Democratic Republic ...
by mediev
Wed Mar 27, 2002 5:22 am
Forum: Speak Your Mind
Topic: Rogue states.
Replies: 96
Views: 4946

While I agree with some of what Mediev is saying, I'd hardly call the Soviet Union a "force of international stability". It was simply acting in it's own best interests to the detriment of others, much as Dubyah is doing with the US now.

Yes, it was acting in the interests of it's ruling ...
by mediev
Tue Mar 26, 2002 10:09 pm
Forum: Speak Your Mind
Topic: Rogue states.
Replies: 96
Views: 4946

"Friend to humanity" is pushing it, but it's clear that the Union served as a force of political stability to counter American aggression in many parts of the world. It forced American policy makers to restrain their efforts to terrorise and crush democracy overseas, lest the Soviet Union intervene.
by mediev
Tue Mar 26, 2002 9:46 pm
Forum: Speak Your Mind
Topic: Rogue states.
Replies: 96
Views: 4946

Would the Soviet Union and People's Republic of China qualify for this honor, as well?

Though this is largely irrelevant and an attempt to force any discussion away from the real "evil empire", the USSR could hardly be considered a threat to the world, as it was a force of international stability ...
by mediev
Tue Mar 26, 2002 6:01 pm
Forum: Speak Your Mind
Topic: Rogue states.
Replies: 96
Views: 4946

Um...what do you consider to be a "relevant requirement." I'm guessing that you're not including "refuses to mindlessly follow the orders of . . . the US." Am I rightt?
Yes.
by mediev
Tue Mar 26, 2002 5:53 pm
Forum: Speak Your Mind
Topic: Rogue states.
Replies: 96
Views: 4946

Anyone care to make a definition of "rogue state" and try that out for size on the board?

A rogue state, as applied by America, is a nation that is a threat to the world, sponsors criminal or terrorist acts, has little respect for international law, and, of course, refuses the mindlessly follow ...
by mediev
Tue Mar 26, 2002 5:06 pm
Forum: Speak Your Mind
Topic: Rogue states.
Replies: 96
Views: 4946

Mediev, you and I and the rest of the world know that political leaders regularly praise a lot of things without having an ounce of vested time spent in their structuring and control. It's simply good PR. Or do you have a single shred of evidence you can produce backing up your claim that the Peace ...
by mediev
Tue Mar 26, 2002 6:05 am
Forum: Speak Your Mind
Topic: Rogue states.
Replies: 96
Views: 4946

I have had some arguments in my time, Ivan, and they have solved nothing. One man stands up and says "America is a rogue state [subtext - "I approve the events of 9/11"]".

How does rightly saying America's policies are a threat to the global population as a whole serve as a justification of ...
by mediev
Tue Mar 26, 2002 5:35 am
Forum: Speak Your Mind
Topic: Rogue states.
Replies: 96
Views: 4946

How you got from "They represent the American spirit" to "they're here to pacify anti-American sentiment" is beyond me.

To quote myself, ""show" the people [of the countries Bush is raping and impoverishing] that Americans are a positive force". The Peace Corps are therefore structured to ...
by mediev
Tue Mar 26, 2002 12:21 am
Forum: Speak Your Mind
Topic: Rogue states.
Replies: 96
Views: 4946

So Dubyah, one of the most insignificant minds of his age, makes a patented We're Proud speech about the Peace Corps to win himself a few more votes and buck up the folks overseas. Been done before, countless millions of times, in all places, all periods. Anything that you infer about the Peace ...
by mediev
Mon Mar 25, 2002 10:55 pm
Forum: Speak Your Mind
Topic: Rogue states.
Replies: 96
Views: 4946

Either you are attacking a specific nationality of several members of this forum because you generally hate all the national powerplayers and want to play at epater le bourgeois; or you just loathe the US alone, which makes you a bigot.

I don't know of any place that I have insulted or defamed ...
by mediev
Mon Mar 25, 2002 8:38 pm
Forum: Speak Your Mind
Topic: Rogue states.
Replies: 96
Views: 4946

It only takes one nuclear weapon to wreck the world
It does?
by mediev
Mon Mar 25, 2002 7:55 pm
Forum: Speak Your Mind
Topic: Declination of Human Civilization
Replies: 23
Views: 1232

There are continual references in a few posts to the idea that the current state of affairs is somehow humanity's fault as a whole, when, in reality, it is quite the opposite. By using terminology that places working people, that is, the overwhelming majority of the population, in positions of blame ...
by mediev
Mon Mar 25, 2002 3:43 pm
Forum: Speak Your Mind
Topic: Rogue states.
Replies: 96
Views: 4946

I'd really to know if your excoriation of the US extends to all other nations, too. Do you regard any of the other powerplayers among the nations over the last fifty years as having a significantly better record on its international activities?

So whenever I attack the policies of the American ...
by mediev
Mon Mar 25, 2002 4:28 am
Forum: Speak Your Mind
Topic: Rogue states.
Replies: 96
Views: 4946

Stronger in the sense the USSR's miltary was bigger than the USA's

It was?!

IIRC the USSR also had more Nukes...but less ways to send them.(ICBM's)

By 1958, after completely surrounding the USSR with nuclear missles fully capable of destroying every major population center, the US had ...
by mediev
Mon Mar 25, 2002 2:50 am
Forum: Speak Your Mind
Topic: Socio-Politics Debate
Replies: 8
Views: 703

Marxism is an interesting idealogy. The whole concept of the proletariate (sp) rising up to overthrow the upper class. This brings to our head the concept of thousands of uneducated, poor serfs rebelling.

The poor peasantry was led by the significant and developed working class (serfdom was ...