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by Chenjzen
Tue Feb 06, 2001 2:01 am
Forum: Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
Topic: Can't Get Them EVIL Thieves!
Replies: 83
Views: 3109

Weasel said, "IMHO..there is no proof that all of the thiefs are active in keeping the torture chamber going in Athkatla. And the way the game is set up to attack one in the guild all become hostile which ends up getting the one's who might not been involved killed."

I can definitely say that the ...
by Chenjzen
Sun Feb 04, 2001 8:08 pm
Forum: Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
Topic: Can't Get Them EVIL Thieves!
Replies: 83
Views: 3109

Well, Weasel, I'm sure I've made it clear things also depend on circumstance. If, for example, the store you went and killed everyone in had a torture chamber in the back room and everyone in the store worked together to keep it active then I'd say yeah it's okay to declare war on them and kill them ...
by Chenjzen
Sat Feb 03, 2001 10:46 am
Forum: Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
Topic: Can't Get Them EVIL Thieves!
Replies: 83
Views: 3109

"I sorry to say but murder for the sake of wiping out a whole group that you believe to be evil....just makes you evil."

No, Weasel, whole groups fight each other all the time, often because they think one or the other is evil. They call it WAR.

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by Chenjzen
Fri Feb 02, 2001 6:35 pm
Forum: Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
Topic: Can't Get Them EVIL Thieves!
Replies: 83
Views: 3109

Phil,

In response to your comments on murder:
It's not right to say that anyone who commits lawful murder is evil, which is the argument you're making for saying some of the acts of my character are evil.
Cases to muddle the waters:
A father enters his home to catch a man finishing the act of ...
by Chenjzen
Thu Feb 01, 2001 7:04 pm
Forum: Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
Topic: Can't Get Them EVIL Thieves!
Replies: 83
Views: 3109

I appreciate the subtlety, but I must state once again there's no way I could stomach hangin' with the Night Crowd.

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And my time is a piece of wax, falling on a termite, that's choking on the splinters.
by Chenjzen
Thu Feb 01, 2001 6:46 pm
Forum: General RPG Discussion
Topic: Playing Rpg:s in school?
Replies: 15
Views: 2546

Hey - I actually started RPG'ng in my high school library. We had access to rooms that branched off from the main area 'cause the librarian liked us. Not school sponsorship or anything, but we had one heck of a time - I think I started out playing Marvel Superheroes and the guy DM'ing actually had ...
by Chenjzen
Thu Feb 01, 2001 6:35 pm
Forum: Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
Topic: Can't Get Them EVIL Thieves!
Replies: 83
Views: 3109

Gruntboy: I can easily see how you came to your conclusions. Honestly, though, it was the torture chambers that got to me. I was a little perturbed the game was forcing me to work with people I would normally be going after - but the torture chamber helped me make the decision to get Aran. Just can ...
by Chenjzen
Wed Jan 31, 2001 10:02 pm
Forum: Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
Topic: Can't Get Them EVIL Thieves!
Replies: 83
Views: 3109

And you know, honestly I wasn't trying to start a conversation about morality anyway (interesting though it is). I was actually complaining about how the game was designed. And it was only a little complaint. It certainly wasn't an evil complaint.

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by Chenjzen
Wed Jan 31, 2001 9:58 pm
Forum: Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
Topic: Who Is Malchor Harpell?
Replies: 15
Views: 5147

Oh, and the disintegration thing is HILARIOUS! Good thinking!
by Chenjzen
Wed Jan 31, 2001 9:56 pm
Forum: Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
Topic: Who Is Malchor Harpell?
Replies: 15
Views: 5147

Pre-programmed stuff like that ticks me off a little bit. For another example, see the thread I started Can't Kill Those EVIL Thieves. It's cool if Drizzt (who I can't stand - but I DIDN'T KILL HIM) has some powerful friends. BUT, if the guy is going to approach you it should all be run by the rules ...
by Chenjzen
Wed Jan 31, 2001 9:13 pm
Forum: Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
Topic: Can't Get Them EVIL Thieves!
Replies: 83
Views: 3109

Uh, Drakron Du´Dark guy. This is a game. No need to get too serious. Light-heartedness is allowed. No insults have been issued and there is no reason why we can't have a fun discussion about this. Instead of making declarative statements about me like I'm a non-person or I'm something to hide under ...
by Chenjzen
Wed Jan 31, 2001 7:34 pm
Forum: Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
Topic: Can't Get Them EVIL Thieves!
Replies: 83
Views: 3109

Rail: nope - I do not kill anyone who does not agree with my views. I kill, or use, or convert, anyone who is EVIL. I believe in absolutes - so if you don't we're going to continue to disagree (respectfully). And don't get sad, the American Anthem, Chenjzen, and Baldur's Gate 2 as painted by my ...
by Chenjzen
Tue Jan 30, 2001 11:23 pm
Forum: Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
Topic: What is Drizzt on?
Replies: 34
Views: 1796

Whilst Drizzt is a good guy (morally speaking) I can't stand him because MY character should be the focus of the game. I'm not going to kill the dude, but he can swiftly depart my storyline.

P.S. This was more of an irritant in BG1, where the character is lower level, but still enough with the ...
by Chenjzen
Tue Jan 30, 2001 10:36 pm
Forum: Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
Topic: Can't Get Them EVIL Thieves!
Replies: 83
Views: 3109

Hey there Weasel. Evil is as evil does. That does not mean all thieves are evil.

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And my time is a piece of wax, falling on a termite, that's choking on the splinters.
by Chenjzen
Tue Jan 30, 2001 10:26 pm
Forum: Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
Topic: Can't Get Them EVIL Thieves!
Replies: 83
Views: 3109

Drakron, I'm willing to take on anyone wanting to fill the void and I'm not going to pansy out - in fact you can't predict the future and I could easily make an argument that by leading by example I could marshal a strong force of good folks who aren't afraid to tell evil where to go - straight to ...
by Chenjzen
Tue Jan 30, 2001 10:18 pm
Forum: Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
Topic: Can't Get Them EVIL Thieves!
Replies: 83
Views: 3109

AND for geh4th. The punks are wearing the colors, they pay the price. They know what they're getting into, it's not like they're joining a men's golf club - they're a gang. I'm no different from any other citzen who wants to eradicate the gangs - except I'm empowered to do so, and the law doesn't ...
by Chenjzen
Tue Jan 30, 2001 9:53 pm
Forum: Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
Topic: Can't Get Them EVIL Thieves!
Replies: 83
Views: 3109

And please, those of you who invoke the "M" word (Murder for those of you in Rio Linda & Palm Beach County)in a game like D&D. Get real. Any cop who saw the kind of things that were going on the the Shadow Thieves lair would be tempted (not saying they would give in to the temptation) to put a ...
by Chenjzen
Tue Jan 30, 2001 9:39 pm
Forum: Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
Topic: Can't Get Them EVIL Thieves!
Replies: 83
Views: 3109

Nice little ruckus raised. How perfectly Chaotic. My view of Chaotic Good is someone who is willing to do whatever it takes spread his version of good across the land. He/she is a strong individualist who is confident in their views of morality - they don't need society necessarily to tell them what ...
by Chenjzen
Mon Jan 29, 2001 11:31 pm
Forum: Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
Topic: Can't Get Them EVIL Thieves!
Replies: 83
Views: 3109

I can see that if you are having difficulty understanding the difference between good and evil this is going to be an interesting conversation.
Don't tell me that a chaotic good person doesn't want to help other people. The mark of a good person is to care for others. It's the methodology that may ...
by Chenjzen
Mon Jan 29, 2001 9:48 pm
Forum: Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
Topic: Can't Get Them EVIL Thieves!
Replies: 83
Views: 3109

Er, do you mean I should let the scoundrels get away with taking hard-working folks' money - just out of the fear of "something unknown" taking their place? Good smashes evil in any form it chooses to take! No, I do not take a "passive" good role in the universe. Rather, an active role. Unlike ...