Balor: one tough customer

Waverly · Post by **Waverly** » Fri Jan 19, 2001 5:18 pm

Balor is indeed one tough customer, but luckily, I did not have to fight him. After failing a couple times, "No Effect!" I simply summoned Mordenkainen's Sword 3 times and watched. I didn't have to do anything- my party literally sat and cheered for the swords.

As a sorcerer, you can summon 3 of these at a time from the moment they become available. Nice bit of fire-power.

I have convinced myself that if you choose a magic class, you have no choice but sorcerer.

Magus · Post by **Magus** » Fri Jan 19, 2001 5:32 pm

I've been wondering about them...my game stopped working before I could test them out. Are Mordekain's Swords truly invulnerable to weaponry?

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FoulDwimmerlaik · Post by **FoulDwimmerlaik** » Fri Jan 19, 2001 5:33 pm

and why do you say that mr. wave (asked the pc pure mage)?

Waverly · Post by **Waverly** » Fri Jan 19, 2001 5:37 pm

Nearly invulnerable. I saw the demon knights take a couple out, but mostly because I got careless and rushed all 5 of them with no preparations or strategy. Used more wisely- they seem to did the job quite nicely.

FoulDwimmerlaik · Post by **FoulDwimmerlaik** » Fri Jan 19, 2001 5:39 pm

now you're getting too detailed on me, I couldn't follow....Anything specific? And are there, IYHO good duels with the sorc?

Waverly · Post by **Waverly** » Fri Jan 19, 2001 5:46 pm

We had this discussion while you were on some sort of hiatus- my reasoning is that there are only a few really useful spells per level that you will learn to rely on. As a sorcerer, you can choose these (no need to find a scroll) and cast them many more times. For the less used spells, use an NPC like Aerie or Nalia as a pinch hitters.

You made a grave error when creating you PC, Foul

Baal and I laugh at your choice.

Magus · Post by **Magus** » Fri Jan 19, 2001 6:02 pm

I know they're extremely vulnerable to magic damage...one or two good spells and they're gone.

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Magus, mighty conjurer, and summoner of vast amounts of words in the Planar Sphere Topic
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Giles the Sorcerer · Post by **Giles the Sorcerer** » Mon Jan 22, 2001 11:55 pm

They have as many hitpoints as any pure mage.

The trick is to set the game difficulty to the second one so HP rolls are maxed (only when you press the level up button), cast a familiar and toss him in your pack (12 or so free HP) so he can't die. Also, start with 18 constitution so you get 6 HP a level instead of 4. 18 dex, bracers of AC 3. Gaxx, and the powerful wizardry ring (Harper quest.) This way you can have around 80 HP.

Black Hand · Post by **Black Hand** » Tue Jan 23, 2001 3:25 am

But those blades can do an awful lot of damage (5D4+4 I think)! I used them to take Kangaxx out, because the swords are +4 weapons. Worked perfectly!

Phil · Post by **Phil** » Tue Jan 23, 2001 3:30 am

IIRC for a mage (or any non-fighter classes) there's no real point having CON above 16, as you only ever get +2 HP/lvl. Has anyone tested this?

FoulDwimmerlaik · Post by **FoulDwimmerlaik** » Tue Jan 23, 2001 1:52 pm

waverly
Just read the shot you took at me a while back in this post for the first time...thou art a misbegotten offspring of questionable parents.....to take advantage of a pure mage whose stats total less than thirty combined....

Bad Man.

Nighthawk · Post by **Nighthawk** » Tue Jan 23, 2001 2:06 pm

Phil is correct, anything beyond 16 Con for a non-warrior is wasted.

Foul: 30 total stats? As in 30/6=5 average?? Given the class minimums, can you get any lower?

Now, that would be a real challenge: Solo the game with a character with minimum stats!

FoulDwimmerlaik · Post by **FoulDwimmerlaik** » Tue Jan 23, 2001 2:09 pm

i AM soloing a character with the minimum stats. Damn game is impossible. I'm trying to use the weakest weapons possible as well. At the hardest difficult level.

Which pretty much means that if I get ganged up on by more than orc, I get my ass kicked.
Great fun.

Waverly · Post by **Waverly** » Tue Jan 23, 2001 2:50 pm

@foul,
Maybe you could memorize the least useful spells and have yourself level drained without restoring. I think this excersise in self punishment says much about you...

FoulDwimmerlaik · Post by **FoulDwimmerlaik** » Tue Jan 23, 2001 3:00 pm

@wave
I'm not a masochist, I just like to actually role-play different characters. As opposed to collecting all the "Ball-Gag of Titan Strength" type items.

^^^^^^^^^^
a thick liquid darkness descends upon the land as the Dwimmerlaik approaches the inert body of his victim Waverly, raises his mace on high and with a critical miss, smashes it into his own knee, winces in pain (because though he is very weak, and therefore doesn't have much strength to wield with much force, he also has a poor constitution, and AC of 10 and low hit points so it doesn't take much), stumbles due to his incredibly pathetic dexterity, falls to the ground causing his mace to fall and strike him again, releasing its special disruptive power, fails his saving throw (again...) and crumbles to dust which is blown away on the wind...

I am not a masochist * repeats sentence repeatedly while rapping skull with heavy pen*

Nighthawk · Post by **Nighthawk** » Tue Jan 23, 2001 6:25 pm

Foul: I think that's the hardest I've laughed while reading this forum...ever!

Weasel · Post by **Weasel** » Tue Jan 23, 2001 10:54 pm

@ Foul... I believe it was Rail who said he didn't want to multiplayer with me in the game because of all the bad luck I had with the NPCs...I'll inform Rail about you...my luck has never been as bad as yours.

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