VonDondu wrote:Is anyone still interested in reading about the personal history of John McCain? The October 16 issue of Rolling Stone has a very unflattering analysis of McCain's life which expands on some of the things I talked about back on page 2 of this message thread (and more). It doesn't shed any light directly on the reasons why McCain chose Sarah Palin to be his running mate, but it does reveal what McCain's old friends are willing to say about him on the record. Pretty rough stuff.
Also, hereis a completely irrelevant, gratuitous photo of McCain and Obama.
Thank you for the link Von Dondu.... I knew McCain could be erratic and I was aware he had a nasty streak, but I didn't realise he was quite that bad.. The media gloss McCain has employed to create this most recent incarnation of himself would do Joseph Goebbels proud...
Very disturbing stuff indeed... The thought of McCain and Palin at the helm now truly scares the Hell out of me...
Regarding the photo, LMAO! where did that come from?
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@DW: I'm glad you, um, enjoyed that article in Rolling Stone.
One of the most striking things to me is that McCain began courting a relationship with the press immediately after a disaster took place in which he wasn't the least bit heroic, but they still bought into his "I could have died and I'm a hero" routine just because he was a celebrity. I was also struck by the way one of his old high school buddies described him as "a mean little", um, guy.
That photo came from Reuters via the Yahoo! news service. The caption reads as follows:
"US Republican presidential nominee Senator John McCain (R-AZ) reacts to almost heading the wrong way off the stage after shaking hands with Democratic presidential nominee Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) at the conclusion of the final presidential debate at Hofstra University in Hempstead, New York, October 15, 2008."
It's just one of those moments when someone is making a funny face and someone (inconveniently) captures it with a camera.
Hmm... I seem to be having real trouble getting that link to work for me on YouTube, though it ran just fine this morning....weird..
Anyway, I just found another place to view it... http://www.seesmic.com/#/video/VSomeIE9D4/watch
IMO John Cleese sums it all up very well... For some time now I have felt as though I'm watching a Monty Python comedy. It's utterly surreal... and it's frightening that this US election is as close as it is, because it should not be.
As Cleese so succinctly phrased it, Americans could be forgiven for having voted Bush the first time around... but..
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Now [url="http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=188635&title=Pfriend-or-Pfoe?"]THIS[/url] gets even better, John Stewart ripping the new Republican rhetoric a new one.
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Moonbiter wrote:I know, but it's pretty on the spot.
Now [url="http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=188635&title=Pfriend-or-Pfoe?"]THIS[/url] gets even better, John Stewart ripping the new Republican rhetoric a new one.
Good link, I was thinking of posting the same segment. Not that I needed any more convincing, but, damn, she freaks me the hell out.
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Moonbiter wrote:I know, but it's pretty on the spot.
Now [url="http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=188635&title=Pfriend-or-Pfoe?"]THIS[/url] gets even better, John Stewart ripping the new Republican rhetoric a new one.
Yeah - I watch the Daily Show (it airs about 2 days after the US date in Denmark), and some of the clips Stewart manages to dig out and edit together really shows the rhetoric for what it is - pure nonsense.
One clip of McCain berating Obama for something, and then another clip of either McCain or Palin doing the exact same thing twice or thrice.
Last I saw was that Obama supporting both baseball (I think it was) teams in some match up - and then McCain commenting on that, cut to Palin supporting 3 teams :laugh:
Or McCain and Palin claiming Obama is a (*shudder*) socialist only to cut to McCain arguing for higher earning people paying more tax and a comment for voting for nationalizing banks.
ROFL! :laugh:
I guess they were getting bored of Sarah Palin...
My sense is that comedians in the US have never had it this good during an election.. *snort*
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That is a pretty good piece by The Economist.
It tells much of my own "feelings" towards McCain - meaning how I'd reacted if I in fact had lived in the US.
To begin with he came off as a sensible and responsible person, but his campaign have just been one long decline into a black hole of stupidity and self-contradiction with previous statements and his persona.
And - well, still the choice of Palin alone indicates to me that this man should not be president of the USA alone due to exceptional poor judgment.
But I think this snippet is the most important one in the entire article: Of course, Mr Obama will make mistakes; but this is a man who listens, learns and manages well.
I so hope the USAians vote with their head this time around.
Xandax wrote:That is a pretty good piece by The Economist.
It tells much of my own "feelings" towards McCain - meaning how I'd reacted if I in fact had lived in the US.
My feelings too. I got a laugh out of "the case for Mr McCain comes down to a piece of artifice: vote for him on the assumption that he does not believe a word of what he has been saying". A certain amount of populism is a necessary evil, and forgivable, but McCain took the populistic message, got engaged and married it, while it should just have been a short fling. Had he run the same platform he did in 2000, picked someone like Romney for VP, and ran against someone I'd perceive as a weak democratic candidate, like Edwards, he'd have my support. Instead, he embraced dumb populism, picked a dumb populist for VP and ran against an exceptionally strong democrat. He deserves to lose and drag the GOP down with him.
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Vicsun wrote:My feelings too. I got a laugh out of "the case for Mr McCain comes down to a piece of artifice: vote for him on the assumption that he does not believe a word of what he has been saying"
Yeah - it is describing the entire attitude of him at the moment.
And even me - not living in the USA - if I hear his "my friends" one more time
At least when Palin keeps putting her foot in her mouth, you expect it - but McCain *should* have known better.
I liked McCain last election, now he's just another politician with no sense of reality more intend on slandering his opponent then actually helping to fix the country which is right now causing much economical turmoil around the world.
