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Sequel or Prequel?

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Post by G.I. Jimbo »

The flashback thing is a good idea though. I think they actualy tried a very small portion of that in KOTOR 2 when you did the deep cave quest on Koriban. It was an incredibly ghey attempt at explaining or controling the past, since the results (no suprise) were the same anyways. It would be pretty cool to go back and do the mandalorian wars though.
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well first i want to see a sequel. you just cant end a trillogy that way. but why stop at a sequal. why not do some prequels. the jedi and sith battles acoured over thousands of years. there are alot things you could do with prequals. they could make 50 kotors almost. i would really like to see a game around the great schism i think it is called. about the divsion of the jedi. the first civil war of jedi.
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Sequel

I'll be frank about this. KOTOR 2's ending leaves something to be desired or more likely, just ends without any conclusion (spoiler) after Malachor V blew up and the Ebon Hawk flew off to who knows where.

That's why I vote that the next KOTOR should be a sequel to KOTOR 2 because of the ending in KOTOR 2 and I'm interested in what happened to both Revan and the Exile plus the previous crew of the Ebon Hawk like Jolee, Juhani, Mission, Zaalbar and some others.

A prequel is something I don't fancy because as I said before, the ending in KOTOR 2 seems like it screams for a sequel and not a prequel. A prequel detailing Revan's stint in the Mandalorian Wars, as most have said in the forums, would be nice, though the game will take a very linear path and the developers have to drop the LS/DS feature due to the nature of the game.
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Sequel

Im leaning towards a sequel, too many things are unresolved in Kotor II.

But the story before Kotor I could be made into a very nice RPG/RTS game :) .
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As cool as the sequel could be; i'd still prefer to do the prequel first. Reaching level 50 at the end of K2, was rather ridiculous, and it would just be stupid to have another, even cheesier sequel. I really really want to be Revan/The Exile during the Mandalorian wars, or, perhaps a non-force PC, fighting the Mandalorians!
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well sure... everyone agrees with you on that im sure... but there were soooo many loose ends at the end of the game. i think that before thers a prequel, there should be a conclusion to wrap everything up first. then, if the III one doesnt suck go back and do the prequel
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for one a sequal is essential. i will not deny that. they also have thousands of years to work with as far as prequals go also. they could make 30 kotors and still never take anything away from the movies.
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Both

I think it should be both. Why? BEcause it would explain everything about the last two KOTORs. A prequel to SW KOTOR 1 starting at the Mandalorian wars and the fall of Revan. Then a sequel-prequel which would be- what happened after Darth MAlak was defeated and how all the rumors of his disapperance came to be and a sequel to the SW KOTOR 2 but a different storyline. Like instead of you being the dark lord, living with or being acquainted with a dark lords apprentice how about...the dark lord being your long-lost father, or the love of your life being a undercover sith apprentice. Brainwave- You're the Jedi Master and you must make decisions that are best for the whole universe and not only you. But you have a secret family being held hostage by the sith so you're stuck between following the Jedi code and following your heart.

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Heres the thing to complete the series they need to do two or three games. Two if they combine one game into two. I think they should next do a sequel or something that took place either during game one or 2. It would be anpther game about a random character that also had a rank in the war. then they could make another game where your party where those three characters were your party. one half of the game could be those characters as a sequel and the other half as a prequel or they could just turn that into two games.
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no, please not at the same time, that would be stupid, live the story twice.
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I would rather have flashbacks than going through the same story twice.
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Kotor 3 should be a sequel
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[QUOTE=Halcyon Bek'ka]Heres the thing to complete the series they need to do two or three games. Two if they combine one game into two. I think they should next do a sequel or something that took place either during game one or 2. It would be anpther game about a random character that also had a rank in the war. then they could make another game where your party where those three characters were your party. one half of the game could be those characters as a sequel and the other half as a prequel or they could just turn that into two games.[/QUOTE]

Anyway, since I don't fancy commenting on what people's opinion are on how KOTOR 3's story should be like, I would like to make a point here. Maybe the game should be based on both Revan and the Exile plus the new character provided that each have a turn in different parts of the story. That way, you can play from the perspective from all 3 characters.
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thats actually a really good idea. it woud prove a lot more entertaining and excitement thats for sure! but... i think that it should still be a sequel.
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[QUOTE=Kayos]thats actually a really good idea. it woud prove a lot more entertaining and excitement thats for sure![/QUOTE]

Why, thank you.

[QUOTE=Kayos]but... i think that it should still be a sequel.[/QUOTE]

I agree with this point. The next KOTOR should be a sequel since KOTOR 2 is a mess and leaves an ending that screams for a sequel.
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no kidding! it was a mess! hopefull, if they do come out with a III KotOR itll be a lot more clear.

itd also be cool if they did like they (revan. exile and the new PC) were trying to catch each other to find out what the other knows about whatever. i think thatd be cool
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Certainly, K3 needs to tie up both Revan and the Exile's stoylines, as well as providing some new material, but i'm not sure that having a split game (That is what you were suggesting, right?) is the best idea here. I've played several games that had split storylines, and; although the interlinking of storylines was cool, at the end of the game(s), i felt rather ripped-off.
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[QUOTE=RBitG]Certainly, K3 needs to tie up both Revan and the Exile's stoylines, as well as providing some new material, but i'm not sure that having a split game (That is what you were suggesting, right?) is the best idea here.[/QUOTE]

Actually, what I meant was one storyline but you play from 3 different perspectives like the Exile's turn in one part of the story and Revan's in another and the new character in the other part. It could turn out like the Exile's path in searching for Revan, then followed by the new character's involvement in finding the Sith threat and then Revan's part in the final confrontation with the real threat as an example (Honestly, I hate speculating about how the storyline should turn out but here, I make an exception) .

[QUOTE=RBitG]I've played several games that had split storylines, and; although the interlinking of storylines was cool, at the end of the game(s), i felt rather ripped-off.[/QUOTE]

I think its more likely a set story but played from different perspectives, which to me is kind of OK as you get to know their viewpoint in the story.

By the way, in what way do you feel ripped-off when playing a game like that? :confused:
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[QUOTE=DesR85]Actually, what I meant was one storyline but you play from 3 different perspectives like the Exile's turn in one part of the story and Revan's in another and the new character in the other part. It could turn out like the Exile's path in searching for Revan, then followed by the new character's involvement in finding the Sith threat and then Revan's part in the final confrontation with the real threat as an example (Honestly, I hate speculating about how the storyline should turn out but here, I make an exception) .

I think its more likely a set story but played from different perspectives, which to me is kind of OK as you get to know their viewpoint in the story.

By the way, in what way do you feel ripped-off when playing a game like that? :confused: [/QUOTE]

Alright, but if you play one character for one part, and a different one for another, you don't get the first characters story, whenyou're playing the second character, and the game generally comes up with something like:
"Meanwhile, So-and-so had defeated the sith lord, and freed the galaxy, thankyou for destroying these twenty droids, you really helped."

That's what i hated about split storylines.
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Heh heh:laugh: . Sounds like someone else gets all the glory while you remain in the sidelines with no recognition at all for your efforts. I get your point.

Maybe if the end turns out like all three people, Revan, the Exile and the new character teamed up to deal with the threat, I think that will be more rewarding than someone going solo after what the other 2 have done to progress the story forward.
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