The Main Villain in KotOR III

irish07slasher · Post by **irish07slasher** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:02 pm

As we all know a good star wars game can't exist without a good Main Villian.Whats you're opinion for the best Villian KOTOR III could ever have. This is mine.

Name

arth Eternity(Makes him sound like a powerfull dude)

Status: Dark Lord of The True Sith

Age:2000 years old(yet still looks like a 25 year old)

Race:True Sith

Eyes:Red(Not Demonic red, just normal red)

Hair:Black

Skin:white/slightly tan

Lightsaber:Single Saber, Golden Hilt, Dark Red Color Crystal

Attitude:Nonchallant, strategist, patient, cold calculator, emotionless, never smiles.

Force Abilities: Force Sight(thanks to sith eyes), Force Lightning, Grip, Force Influence(Sort of Mind trick that influences beings without them realizing, including force sensitives) Force Creation (similiar to the technique used by Plaugiues to create Anakin).

History: His early life is shrouded in mystery, as most True sith's history is, but what is known is that at a young age he was found to be very powerfull by the True sith order. The true sith order at the time was dominated by a strict code that only two true sith existed, one to possess power the other to crave it. Apprentices would be created, rather than found, using a ancient sith technique that was used to influence the Milichlorians in order to creat life. He was created by Darth Slayer(Not much is known about him) and was taken as an apprentice. During his apprenticeship he quickly (yet secretly) surpassed his master quite rapidly. Though it was required that a True sith take an apprentice only after they had defeated their master, Eternity wanted his master to believe himself superior for a bit longer, so he created an apprentice in Secret. Traveling to the Outer Rim he used the force to impregnate a married woman with a powerful True sith baby, however his master soon found out and he was forced to kill him sooner than expected. This led to a problem, the True Sith Council (Which consisted off the spirits off the most powerfull true Sith Lords) required that he create an apprentice, but he already had and the process of creating life can only be done once in a lifetime. So instead he took another apprentice from the planet Csilla and infused him with the powers off the true sith, to fool the council for a while until he could claim his real apprentice. Buying his time, he put in motion the plan that had been engineered by the True Sith for over 20000 years, the Revenge against the Jedi. The first phase of his plan was to goat the powerfull Mandalorian Clans to start a war against the Republic. Using a force Influence technique taught by his sith master, he tempted the Mandalorian leader with promises of power and honor. Overwhelmed with desire, the Mandalorian Leader set off for conquest. Things were going well for the True Sith Lord until he realized that his future apprentice had become a jedi and had rallied the order against the mandalorian. However instead off panicking, he improvised the situation and allowed the Jedi to win victory after victory. During the waning days off the Mandalorian War, Eternity went to comfront his creation on the Trayus Academy (A true Sith Former Academy). He revealed to him that it was he had had orchastrated the Mandalorian War and had done so so that after the war, the Republic would be to weak to defened itself against his true Sith forces. In reality the True Sith didn't have an army because only two were aloud to live at a time. Eternity had merely told him so that he could further his plans without him knowing. His true plan was to Leave 'Wounds' in the force on certain planets that were affected by the war and then when their were enough he would use a special sith technique to unite all these planest, thus creating a wound in the force large enough to consume the galaxy in darkness. However unfortunatly his future apprentice was captured by the jedi and brainwashed, luckily his future apprentices forces, the sith, still remained and could still creat enough wounds in the force to complete his plans. Now his Creation has entered into the Unknown Regions in hopes off finding Eternity and Destroying him, however Eternity plans on using this to his advantage. By the way for those who havent guessed it, his true apprentice is Revan

Woah this is some deep history right here. Write what you think the Main Villian in KOTOR III SHOULD BE

bigredpanda · Post by **bigredpanda** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:35 am

SPOILER.

Wasn't Revan Kreia's apprentice? I would leave Revan out of the main villain story.

Good topic, though.

DesR85 · Post by **DesR85** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:32 am

Interesting topic, Irish07slasher.

Oh, and about the main villain, what about a cyborg similar to General Grevious? I think it would be cool to meet a lightsaber wielding cyborg as either the main villain or as one of the bosses in the game.

Ender04 · Post by **Ender04** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:51 pm

I think a cool concept for the main baddie

is maybe a slightly calmer more controlled Sith Lord. I think of someone with slightly more finesse and subtley. Not the destructive personality of Malak or Sion. I think of someone with grace and poise. Similar to Sephiroth in appearance. Ya know, thin and almost angelic looking. But kind of like Seymour (Final Fantasy X) in the calm, soft spoken, and almost diplomatic way he seems to handle things. He would have the kind of face and attitude that would really make you trust him... and if you disagreed with him, his lightsaber would flash... and you would have no head. You always hear about being seduced by the dark side, well I think it's time they created a Sith Lord that really could seduce someone and coax them into seeing their way. It seems to me that there have really only been 2 Sith Lords that had any kind of strategic bone in their bodies and that was Kreia and Darth Sidious. Everyone else seemed to be a slave of destruction. I say let's have a Sith Lord with some brains.

irish07slasher · Post by **irish07slasher** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:03 pm

DesR85 wrote:Interesting topic, Irish07slasher. Oh, and about the main villain, what about a cyborg similar to General Grevious? I think it would be cool to meet a lightsaber wielding cyborg as either the main villain or as one of the bosses in the game.

Not that I don't think that a Robot General is a cool idea, but for a main villian it seems kinda dumb, no offense of course. If it was a robot it would'nt have a powerful force strengh and techniqually in Star Wars a powerful main villian has to be a force user

irish07slasher · Post by **irish07slasher** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:07 pm

bigredpanda wrote:SPOILER.

Wasn't Revan Kreia's apprentice? I would leave Revan out of the main villain story.

Good topic, though.

I know that, but I meant that Revan was created so that he could become Eternitys apprentice, but instead he joined the jedi (similiar to Darth Plagius sort of thing). Eternity has a Chiss apprentice to fool the True Sith Council, but his real force created apprentice is Revan, WHICH MAKES REVAN A TRUE SITH, MAN I'M GOOD!!!

irish07slasher · Post by **irish07slasher** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:10 pm

Ender04 wrote:I think a cool concept for the main baddie is maybe a slightly calmer more controlled Sith Lord. I think of someone with slightly more finesse and subtley. Not the destructive personality of Malak or Sion. I think of someone with grace and poise. Similar to Sephiroth in appearance. Ya know, thin and almost angelic looking. But kind of like Seymour (Final Fantasy X) in the calm, soft spoken, and almost diplomatic way he seems to handle things. He would have the kind of face and attitude that would really make you trust him... and if you disagreed with him, his lightsaber would flash... and you would have no head. You always hear about being seduced by the dark side, well I think it's time they created a Sith Lord that really could seduce someone and coax them into seeing their way. It seems to me that there have really only been 2 Sith Lords that had any kind of strategic bone in their bodies and that was Kreia and Darth Sidious. Everyone else seemed to be a slave of destruction. I say let's have a Sith Lord with some brains.

Finally, someone with my same view as mine for an awsome villian. Lol, it seems like all the good villians are modeled after Final Fantasy Game.

PS: just so that we don't have to read long paragraphs just write this

NAME

AGE

Status

Race

Eyes

Hair

Skin

Weapon

Attitude

Abilities

History

Chanak · Post by **Chanak** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:35 pm

@irish07slasher: Back-to-back posting over a brief period of time is discouraged here on the GameBanshee forums. If you post, then want to add additional info or want to respond to someone else, use the "Edit" function on your original post in order to add more content. Thanks.

Mandalorianx · Post by **Mandalorianx** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:51 pm

race: Taung(mandalorian)
age: unknown
wepons: two red lightsabers
hideout:the tomb of Naga Sadow
homeplanet: duxn
background: he was one of the mandalorian during the mandalorian war, during the war he and revan hade a fight,revan could not finish him cuz he felt hove stong he was in the force,so he gave him the basic training of the jedi and sith.....

DesR85 · Post by **DesR85** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 2:49 am

irish07slasher wrote:Not that I don't think that a Robot General is a cool idea, but for a main villian it seems kinda dumb, no offense of course. If it was a robot it would'nt have a powerful force strengh and techniqually in Star Wars a powerful main villian has to be a force user

None taken.

By the way, General Grevious is no robot. He has mechanical parts because of some accident but for a cyborg to be able to fight with lightsabers, that, to me, is already a formidable foe. I agree that a cyborg might not be good for the main villian. He will most likely suit the role of one of the bosses in the game.

MandalorianX wrote: race: Taung(mandalorian)
age: unknown
wepons: two red lightsabers
hideout:the tomb of Naga Sadow
homeplanet: duxn
background: he was one of the mandalorian during the mandalorian war, during the war he and revan hade a fight,revan could not finish him cuz he felt hove stong he was in the force,so he gave him the basic training of the jedi and sith.....

A Mandalorian armed with 2 lightsabers?

That's cool. Would be interesting to see a Sith who is a Mandalorian. By the way, have the Sith ever recruited Mandalorians before or even trained them?

Mandalorianx · Post by **Mandalorianx** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 7:34 am

yeah always wanted to se a taung(mandalorian race)in kotor.since mandalorians are so feard i wanted to have a more power full mandalorian then mandalore.

his going to wear ofc mandalorian armor some thing rusty dirty and a little damaged in red.and whitout helm and a cloak in black.and i want him to speaka little Mando'a(taung/mandalorian Languages)

yes bobba fett was recruted by vader, and jango by tyranus(duko)and Mandalore the Indomitable was Ulic Qeldroma servent cuz he lost a duel or so....

FighterTundra · Post by **FighterTundra** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 7:48 am

i agree, the ultimate bad guy must be a true sith.
or if you choose to go light side, the most powerfull jedi that ever existed and is still alive which is not sith or something, someone who only weilds the light side force or how you want to call it.

DesR85 · Post by **DesR85** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:33 am

Mandalorianx wrote: yes bobba fett was recruted by vader, and jango by tyranus(duko)and Mandalore the Indomitable was Ulic Qeldroma servent cuz he lost a duel or so....

Hmm. I see. Almost forgot about that.

They (the Mandalorians) do have a history of working with the Sith before from the information you provided. The odd thing is that they also did work against the Sith during the invasion of Telos.

FighterTundra wrote: i agree, the ultimate bad guy must be a true sith.
or if you choose to go light side, the most powerfull jedi that ever existed and is still alive which is not sith or something, someone who only weilds the light side force or how you want to call it.

I think that would be a lot better than facing only one person as the main villian, whether you play Light Side or Dark Side.

Mandalorianx · Post by **Mandalorianx** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:32 pm

just a little more about my main villian char..

he met revan after the destruction of the sith academy on koriban.
revan wanted him to redig the tumbs in the vally of the dark lords.
revan knew that he would lear something new by the sith. befor the taung left, revan gave him a name "Darth Mando"(mando'ad means son of mandalore in taung if im not wrong).
when Mando was redigging the tumb of Naga Sadow (his first tumb), he found the Naga Sadow had a hidden hologram, it was the learning of the true sith. Mando made the entrens to nagas tumb look like it was stil destroid, so the he could get some time to learn what naga sadow had learnd.
after 6 weeks, he heard a ship landing in the vally, it was sion and his assassin. Mando used the asssassin as a train his new power one of them cald force flame.
Sion didnt like that his assassins where getting lost, he knew that there where someone in the vally.he went there by him self to face his treath,only to se a mandalorian, Sion didnt expect the power of a sith.he was beaten, when he was going to recharde his power, Mando used his force to stun sion. so that hi could take a look in the academy.
since Mando only hade his two axes he went to the ruin of the academy and found tree lightsabers.1 doblebladed lightsaber anbd two standar lightsabers.

sion and mando made a deal that no one axept revan and mando was goin to enter the tumb on naga sadow

irish07slasher · Post by **irish07slasher** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 3:34 pm

Just got another idea

Name: Lord Raven

Age:30

Status: Leading Sith Remnants

Race:Human, Male or Female (depends on Revan)

Eyes

Depends on Revan)

Hair

Depends on Revan)

Skin

Depends on Revan)

Weapon: Lightsaber

Attitude: (Depends on Revan)

Abilities: If Revans Lightside hes Darkside, but if Revans Darkside hes lightside.

History:Built by the True Sith as an exact replica of Revan, but a completly Polar Oposite of an attitude. Built to destroy the mans reputation it is his lifes mission is to both break mentaly and physically the former or current dark lord

PS: Does anybody know how to change the Thread title. I want this thread to be about both bosses and Main bosses to add diversity to it.

zander811 · Post by **zander811** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:11 pm

I think it should be something not human, but not...how to say...incredibly stupid. Like a guy w/ his bottom jaw missing was ok, but then the thing w/ no face? and the guy cut up 1,000 times? I can see LucasArts using it's imagination, but if the next one has something even MORE bizzarre, I'm gonna be disappointed.

Why not have a double-bladed lightsaber?

Oh, idea: why not have you go fully dark far before the end, and your new "main villain" could be some jedi master. After all, "good is a point of view," so naturally evil must be as well.

The evil villain should be some alien w/ a good build, not wimpy, but not huge, that'd seem illogical. kind of like...anakin meets darth maul. I only wish maul's species wasn't already used in a movie, I'd like to see him in the next game.

The good villain could be human, cuz usually the head if the jedi counsle is human.

irish07slasher · Post by **irish07slasher** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:40 pm

zander811 wrote:I think it should be something not human, but not...how to say...incredibly stupid. Like a guy w/ his bottom jaw missing was ok, but then the thing w/ no face? and the guy cut up 1,000 times? I can see LucasArts using it's imagination, but if the next one has something even MORE bizzarre, I'm gonna be disappointed.

Why not have a double-bladed lightsaber?

Oh, idea: why not have you go fully dark far before the end, and your new "main villain" could be some jedi master. After all, "good is a point of view," so naturally evil must be as well.

The evil villain should be some alien w/ a good build, not wimpy, but not huge, that'd seem illogical. kind of like...anakin meets darth maul. I only wish maul's species wasn't already used in a movie, I'd like to see him in the next game.

The good villain could be human, cuz usually the head if the jedi counsle is human.

I agree and disagree at the same time. Its a good idea, but the whole bizzare thing isn't what makes people love villians. Take for example FF VII Sephiroth, Angelic looking yet with an almost pure evil attitude that makes you love him. If you had turned Sephiroth into a demon I could assure you that not many people would've like him. These days what people I think want are cool Villians who you know is incredibly powerfull and in my opinion a nemisis in the Main characters eyes (in other words superior or invincible to the main character without doing something special). I'm gonna be majorly dissapointed if KOTOR III does'nt bring out anything short of an awsome vilan.

Awsome to me= Power house, not an idiot, brings out the main characters spite, underminer who taunts the character and has a right to, a challenge to beat.

Ender04 · Post by **Ender04** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:29 am

irish07slasher wrote:I agree and disagree at the same time. Its a good idea, but the whole bizzare thing isn't what makes people love villians. Take for example FF VII Sephiroth, Angelic looking yet with an almost pure evil attitude that makes you love him. If you had turned Sephiroth into a demon I could assure you that not many people would've like him. These days what people I think want are cool Villians who you know is incredibly powerfull and in my opinion a nemisis in the Main characters eyes (in other words superior or invincible to the main character without doing something special). I'm gonna be majorly dissapointed if KOTOR III does'nt bring out anything short of an awsome vilan.

Awsome to me= Power house, not an idiot, brings out the main characters spite, underminer who taunts the character and has a right to, a challenge to beat.

I agree completely. Nowadays people want cool, smart villains. Not big, dumb, and ugly ones. Sephiroth, Vicious (Cowboy Bebop), Knives (Trigun), Seymour (Final Fantasy X), Kuja (Final Fantasy IX). These people are all amazingly powerful villains who aren't monsters. Anyway, the point is, I want a Sith Lord who's soul is corrupted by the dark side. Not his body and mind. And one other thing that I would like for the main baddie. Instead of wielding a lightsaber, I would rather him wield dual Sith Swords. It would be a nice touch for a game in the unknown regions where the Sith are powerful. Not only that, they are Alchemically altered to deflect both lightsabers and blaster bolts and they are focal points for the Dark side so that they grow more powerful in the hands of someone well versed in the Dark side. The way I see it, ancient weapons for an ancient evil.

Darth Moudi · Post by **Darth Moudi** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:14 pm

Mandalorianx wrote: his going to wear ofc mandalorian armor some thing rusty dirty and a little damaged in red.and whitout helm and a cloak in black.and i want him to speaka little Mando'a(taung/mandalorian Languages).

Yeah thats pretty cool Manda. With some blood stains. Rust...idk i guess thats alright but wouldnt that make armor weak? Other than the rust thats pretty cool.

Irish..I personally think thats one of the coolest made up characters ive seen so far...awsome job. I havent been online in a couple months though so idk what others have. Btw, Plaguis made Anakin? Some1 give me the story on that cuz I have never heard of that. Though it does sound cool.

Btw whoever said Revan shouldnt be in this one I would have to disagree. Revan went off to fight the True Sith didnt he? Isnt that what Kreia said. He discovered something that he must take care of. This is final chapter of KOTOR so its inevitable that Revan makes a return. I know for a fact that Bioware was told to take there time on this game but this is starting to become a tad bit to long. I have faith in it though. Hopefully they made you able to put hoods up on your robes this time. and new saber hilts. Being a different race would be cool as well but oh well. Hoods in my opinion is a must.

irish07slasher · Post by **irish07slasher** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:42 pm

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Irish..I personally think thats one of the coolest made up characters ive seen so far...awsome job. I havent been online in a couple months though so idk what others have. Btw, Plaguis made Anakin? Some1 give me the story on that cuz I have never heard of that. Though it does sound cool.
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Thank you, I plan on using him as a character on Fanfiction.com. As for information about Plaguis, look him up on wookiepedia.com and it'll say