What Do You Want in KotOR III?

CARBON hippie · Post by **CARBON hippie** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:41 am

online play on KOTOR.III

i think they should put in an online feture in if that is they are goin to make it

czone · Post by **czone** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:26 am

Darth Valrith, I also come up with ideas when I'm trying to sleep

And I think that if they are making a online feature then they will have to make it that you're seeking Revan and then you find the Exile and then you will have to go with other players to Revan and when its online a month or so then there will be a huge army at Revans feet and then you go with the whole army to attack the true sith, huge battle it will go on for days and you can take a bunch of friends and/or strangers and attack a different part of the sith empire and in after a week there will be new recruits and that goes on for three months or so and then there will be a discovery of another part of the sith empire and that can go on for years if people keep playing it, then a expansion pack comes and then there will be more gamplay...

bigredpanda · Post by **bigredpanda** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:48 am

There's another thread on multiplayer features, so I won't take up too much time here.

I'm not a huge fan of online gaming, which is probably why I don't "get it"... but surely, if K3 is going to follow K1 and 2 with the main character being a kind of uber-jedi type, one of a kind, and the whole point being that only YOU can save the universe... how do you tanslate that it into letting more people into the same universe?

Darth Valrith · Post by **Darth Valrith** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 8:30 am

bigredpanda wrote:There's another thread on multiplayer features, so I won't take up too much time here.

I'm not a huge fan of online gaming, which is probably why I don't "get it"... but surely, if K3 is going to follow K1 and 2 with the main character being a kind of uber-jedi type, one of a kind, and the whole point being that only YOU can save the universe... how do you tanslate that it into letting more people into the same universe?

LOTS of uber-type Jedi and Sith? :laugh:

DesR85 · Post by **DesR85** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:13 pm

Darth Valrith wrote:LOTS of uber-type Jedi and Sith? :laugh:

Then what's the point of playing the game if you're already a super-powerful Jedi/Sith? Granted, most games is about starting off from a simple, low-level state and growing into a powerful individual. Starting off from a powerful person at the beginning will kill the excitement in playing a game.

czone · Post by **czone** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:45 am

Maybe in the singleplayer mode, you're a uber jedi in the end, but get killed by Revan and THEN you can play on multiplayer mode...

czone · Post by **czone** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 12:41 am

Is nonody going to reply???

My last post was 3 days ago has nobody got anything to say about it???????:speech::speech::speech::speech::speech::speech::speech::speech::speech::speech::speech::speech:

Drunkside · Post by **Drunkside** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:16 am

I dont know... thats actually good idea, but some people might not like it that they arent allowed to play multiplayer first...

AND THIS IS THE 100th PAGE OF THIS THREAD, ITS TIME TO CELEBRATE!!!!

bigredpanda · Post by **bigredpanda** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:06 pm

czone wrote:Maybe in the singleplayer mode, you're a uber jedi in the end, but get killed by Revan and THEN you can play on multiplayer mode...

By request, an opinion.

So are you saying that the game doesn't finish until you get on to multiplayer mode? I'm not sure I'd buy a game that I couldn't complete on my own. Or do you mean you don't "finish" the game, but the end of the game is you getting killed? Again, that doesn't sound over-satisfying as an end to a trilogy... But I'm not sure if I'm understanding you.

Darth Valrith · Post by **Darth Valrith** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:24 pm

bigredpanda wrote:By request, an opinion.

So are you saying that the game doesn't finish until you get on to multiplayer mode? I'm not sure I'd buy a game that I couldn't complete on my own. Or do you mean you don't "finish" the game, but the end of the game is you getting killed? Again, that doesn't sound over-satisfying as an end to a trilogy... But I'm not sure if I'm understanding you.

i think what he means is this sequence of evetns:
1)play the game, you finish as this crazy over-powered Jedi/Sith
2)Revan kills you
3)this enables multiplayer, where you're just a random "nobody" Jedi.

@czone: my apologies if that's not what you meant.

czone · Post by **czone** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:42 am

That was exactly what I meant! And if you want to you can try to destroy the Sith as a Jedi or as a soldier or whatever you want, or you could join the big army of Revan and attack in groups.

And before you ask questions, if you are later in the multiplayer you must find Revan but a friend can pick you up and you can fight in the war right away.

Darth Valrith · Post by **Darth Valrith** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:48 am

czone wrote: And before you ask questions, if you are later in the multiplayer you must find Revan but a friend can pick you up and you can fight in the war right away.

sort of like what Carth does with Revan at the begining of K1?

bigredpanda · Post by **bigredpanda** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:11 am

Darth Valrith wrote:i think what he means is this sequence of evetns:
1)play the game, you finish as this crazy over-powered Jedi/Sith
2)Revan kills you
3)this enables multiplayer, where you're just a random "nobody" Jedi.

@czone: my apologies if that's not what you meant.

Hmm, still not sure about this. From a simple marketing perspective, you'd have to wait for people to finish the game before any multiplayer can take place. Apologies if this has happened in other games, on-line multiplayer isn't sometihng I know a huge amount about. Then, say it gets leaked that at the end of the game, no matter how brilliant your character, you'll always die? Doesn't that render playing the single player a bit pointless once you know that?

rockkidmetal · Post by **rockkidmetal** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:22 am

Kotor 3

I want ALOT!!!!!! MORE!!!! First, I would like to see all the playable characters from kotor 1 and 2 in kotor 3 somehow. Yes that means Jolie bindo and all the others. I definetly don't want it to just ask questions like kotor 2 did about the past. I want there to be some way you travel to 2 galaxies. The one kotor 1 and 2 take place in and the one where Revan went to. Then I also want to see a whole bunch of more new playable characters, and more character interaction. Unlike in kotor 2 when you teach your friends the force they dont show it like in cut sences but I want them to in kotor 3.
I also would like to see more force powers, new clothes, and to be able to turn every teammate to the dark side. And Its just plain stupid how in kotor 2 how everyone called you a Jedi. In kotor 3 if you are a evil person then everyone calles you sith not jedi.And you sgould be able to learn either Sion's special power, or Nulisus power, or Kreias special power. It all depends on if you choose a sith mareder, or sith assassin, or sith lord. (Or the jedi versions too. along with special Jedi powers most likely the light versions of Sion's, Nulisus, and kreias.) And the story mode should never end like fabel's story. You get to just keep playing through it and get stronger.

czone · Post by **czone** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:17 am

My die at the end was just an axample, because you can't make a multiplayer with thousands of people that all have the same character, and if you let him live then there will be questions about the main character...

Just got up with this idea, what about making so much possibility's in character making that its just 0,00000001 % chance that 2 people have the same chracter. But, still it can't happen because in singleplayer exactly the same happens to 1000 peoples.....

bigredpanda · Post by **bigredpanda** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:13 am

czone wrote:My die at the end was just an axample, because you can't make a multiplayer with thousands of people that all have the same character, and if you let him live then there will be questions about the main character...

Just got up with this idea, what about making so much possibility's in character making that its just 0,00000001 % chance that 2 people have the same chracter. But, still it can't happen because in singleplayer exactly the same happens to 1000 peoples.....

Yeah, like some kind of face creator like in Oblivion, loads of different skills... could be cool.

However, I think the underlying problem is that KOTOR games - at least as they are in 1 and 2 - just don't lend themselves to a multiplayer environment.

DesR85 · Post by **DesR85** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:53 am

bigredpanda wrote:Yeah, like some kind of face creator like in Oblivion, loads of different skills... could be cool.

I'd much prefer the face customisation in the Sims 2 more than the one in Oblivion as I find the latter's much more restrictive. Move one slider and the rest will follow suit. Find it very annoying.

bigredpanda wrote: However, I think the underlying problem is that KOTOR games - at least as they are in 1 and 2 - just don't lend themselves to a multiplayer environment.

Can't argue with that. There is a very good reason why multiplayer was never implemented in either of the KOTOR games (just look at the way the game is designed and you can guess why). In my opinion, I will be more convinced if Lucasarts allow development of two different games, one is KOTOR 3 and the other a KOTOR MMO, rather than a KOTOR 3 with an MMO component.

Darth Valthri · Post by **Darth Valthri** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:01 am

DesR85 wrote:I'd much prefer the face customisation in the Sims 2 more than the one in Oblivion as I find the latter's much more restrictive. Move one slider and the rest will follow suit. Find it very annoying.

Can't argue with that. There is a very good reason why multiplayer was never implemented in either of the KOTOR games (just look at the way the game is designed and you can guess why). In my opinion, I will be more convinced if Lucasarts allow development of two different games, one is KOTOR 3 and the other a KOTOR MMO, rather than a KOTOR 3 with an MMO component.

i agree with both parts of your post, although i ahve never played Oblivion. the only online games i've played or kind of played are Runescape (bleh) and WoW, and personally i liked the numerous options of WoW, so i think something along those lines would be decent. obviously, though, we wouldn't be playing WoW races. i'll take a rodian over a gnome anyday... also, your idea of K3 and a KotOR MMO being seperate is cool too.

anyways, i just had an AWESOME idea! after you beat KotOR 3, regardless of gender or alignment, what you've played becomes a movie at the main menu (it would be overwritten each time you complete a new game). and the idea is that it becomes more movie-like. so every combat action you make looks more stylish (the HUD would obviously be gone), and the results are basically the same (if enemy uses Force Wave, but knocks back 1 or 2 of the characters, we see them get knocked back, but there's no HUD or anything). this would allow for attacks to be linked together without pauses. also, with dialogue. if you say something, maybe what you say isn't actually said by the character in the game, but during the movie, the voice actor/actress will say what you chose from the dialogue options. the only 2 problems i can see for this idea would be: 1) extra space needed for the movie, and 2) who would sit around for several hours re-watching what they've done?

bigredpanda · Post by **bigredpanda** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:15 am

Darth Valthri wrote:
anyways, i just had an AWESOME idea! after you beat KotOR 3, regardless of gender or alignment, what you've played becomes a movie at the main menu (it would be overwritten each time you complete a new game). and the idea is that it becomes more movie-like. so every combat action you make looks more stylish (the HUD would obviously be gone), and the results are basically the same (if enemy uses Force Wave, but knocks back 1 or 2 of the characters, we see them get knocked back, but there's no HUD or anything). this would allow for attacks to be linked together without pauses. also, with dialogue. if you say something, maybe what you say isn't actually said by the character in the game, but during the movie, the voice actor/actress will say what you chose from the dialogue options. the only 2 problems i can see for this idea would be: 1) extra space needed for the movie, and 2) who would sit around for several hours re-watching what they've done?

I love that idea. Absolutely love it. Though I see your point: I would love to sit and watch the game back as a movie, but I'm not sure enough poeple would to make it happen. But I still love the idea.

DesR85 · Post by **DesR85** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:27 am

bigredpanda wrote:I love that idea. Absolutely love it. Though I see your point: I would love to sit and watch the game back as a movie, but I'm not sure enough poeple would to make it happen. But I still love the idea.

Are you sure this is feasible for an RPG that spans somewhere between 40-50 hours? I know several RTSes have this feature (only in skirmishes, though) but these types of games don't take very long to complete. RPGs, on the other hand, take much longer to complete. Imagine sitting through a 40+ hour movie. It'll surely be a drag by then.