what are the alters of the nine OUTSIDE of churches for?

white-decent · Post by **white-decent** » Sun Feb 27, 2011 1:01 am

i have came across a few alters labled with the names of gods, they require fame to use, what are they for exactly though? and how much fame for the alter of stindar right outside of imperial city south of vilverin?

Cionaoith · Post by **Cionaoith** » Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:49 am

Go to Anvil and talk to the prophet. He'll tell you all you need to know.

galraen · Post by **galraen** » Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:25 am

Cionaoith wrote:Go to Anvil and talk to the prophet. He'll tell you all you need to know.

That is assuming he/she has Knights of the Nine installed of course. I suspect that is the case, but the reference to getting the insufficient fame message makes me wonder if there is a problem with the installation. The only time I've experienced that problem was when another mod was clashing with KOTN, moving KOTN to the end of the load order fixed that.

In vanilla Oblivion the shrines are just there to gie buffs every time you worship at them, and to activate the shrines inside the temples. The idea being that you had to make a pilgrimage to a wayside shrine in order to prove your worthiness.

Fame really shouldn't enter into it the first time you pray at a wayside shrine as long as your fame is at least 1, but if your fame hasn't increased since then, you will get the 'Seek greater fame' message.

The way it works is when you activate a shrine the shine script compare your fame with a preset variable, and as long as that variable is less than your fame you get the blessing. At the start of the game each god's shrine variable is set to 0, but every time you pray at a shrine that particular shrine's variable is reset to your current fame.

E.G All scripts for shrines of Arkay have a variable called FameArkay, initially this is set to 0. Pray at a shrine of Arkay when your fame is 1 and you get a blessing, and FameArkay is reset to 1. Pray at a shrine of Arkay again without raising your fame and you get the "Seek greater fame to be judged worthy" message.

Note: If you deliver the Amulet to Jauffre then your fame is going to be at least one. If you haven't delivered the amulet it's about time you did!:laugh:

Cionaoith · Post by **Cionaoith** » Sun Feb 27, 2011 1:13 pm

galraen wrote: In vanilla Oblivion the shrines are just there to gie buffs every time you worship at them, and to activate the shrines inside the temples. The idea being that you had to make a pilgrimage to a wayside shrine in order to prove your worthiness.

Ah; I thought the wayshrines were part of the expansion. So ignore my previous post if you don't have KoTN, White-decent.

As for delivering the amulet, that's overrated. So is fame, for that matter. :mischief:

galraen · Post by **galraen** » Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:46 pm

I don't know about over rated, but delivering anything to that bumbling buffoon has to be a bad idea.

On the basis of a leader being known for the subordinates he appoints; Urinal Septim really is a candidate for one of the worst leaders of all time just for making Jauffre the grandmaster of the blades.

Under his misrule, thanks in no small part to the bad leadership of the blades, Tamriel lurched from one crisis to another, each time having to be rescued by me. Really I'm the one who should have shrines dedicated to me, not the nine ......mmm, maybe Mankar Camoran had a point after all!:laugh:

Fljotsdale · Post by **Fljotsdale** » Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:50 pm

LOL! :laugh: Maybe so! But me too!

Shrines also refuse to heal/bless you if if your infamy is greater than your fame. That same is true of the Temple alters.

galraen · Post by **galraen** » Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:46 pm

I definitely think the Orcs must have a shrine to me somewhere, after all if it wasn't for my decision at the end of Daggerfall they'd still be treated like non-sentient vermin like the goblins!

Fljotsdale · Post by **Fljotsdale** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:27 pm

Bound to have a shrine, then! :laugh:

childofbhaal · Post by **childofbhaal** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:15 pm

+if you want to get rid of your high infamy visit the the altars of the nines and you will be forgiven(it will clear your infamy)

Fljotsdale · Post by **Fljotsdale** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:10 am

Yes. It's the basic requirement to begin the Knights of the Nine quest. Bit pointless to do it beforehand, I think. Do something bad afterwards, before KoN, and I think you would have to do it all over again - and I'm not sure if it works that way.

white-decent · Post by **white-decent** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:46 pm

galraen wrote:That is assuming he/she has Knights of the Nine installed of course. I suspect that is the case, but the reference to getting the insufficient fame message makes me wonder if there is a problem with the installation. The only time I've experienced that problem was when another mod was clashing with KOTN, moving KOTN to the end of the load order fixed that.

In vanilla Oblivion the shrines are just there to gie buffs every time you worship at them, and to activate the shrines inside the temples. The idea being that you had to make a pilgrimage to a wayside shrine in order to prove your worthiness.

Fame really shouldn't enter into it the first time you pray at a wayside shrine as long as your fame is at least 1, but if your fame hasn't increased since then, you will get the 'Seek greater fame' message.

The way it works is when you activate a shrine the shine script compare your fame with a preset variable, and as long as that variable is less than your fame you get the blessing. At the start of the game each god's shrine variable is set to 0, but every time you pray at a shrine that particular shrine's variable is reset to your current fame.

E.G All scripts for shrines of Arkay have a variable called FameArkay, initially this is set to 0. Pray at a shrine of Arkay when your fame is 1 and you get a blessing, and FameArkay is reset to 1. Pray at a shrine of Arkay again without raising your fame and you get the "Seek greater fame to be judged worthy" message.

Note: If you deliver the Amulet to Jauffre then your fame is going to be at least one. If you haven't delivered the amulet it's about time you did!:laugh:

lol. but im on 360, and this was before i had the nights of the nine. i honestly didnt think the nights of the nine expansion was as good as i thought it would be. but anyway more to the point, i didnt know if it was like the shrines of the daedric or somtin where u get rewards or what

white-decent · Post by **white-decent** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:53 pm

galraen wrote:I definitely think the Orcs must have a shrine to me somewhere, after all if it wasn't for my decision at the end of Daggerfall they'd still be treated like non-sentient vermin like the goblins!

i want daggerfall so bad, but my mom wont let me download it to her pc, and i dont get a laptop till august!

galraen · Post by **galraen** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:15 pm

white-decent wrote:i want daggerfall so bad, but my mom wont let me download it to her pc, and i dont get a laptop till august!

There's a lot I really liked about that game, but be warned, it isn't known as Buggerfall for nothing. Make sure you download the patch as well, the game can't be finished without it.