Yoshimoto Important Q (Hey@! Spoilers!)

Cyrus · Post by **Cyrus** » Mon Feb 25, 2002 8:58 pm

WHEN does he exactly leave your party, I want to make sure that bastard is stripped, and i mean Stripped, there's no way in hell I'm letting that backstabbin ***** make off with some of the best **** I've found and not including what he's wearing either!

HighLordDave · Post by **HighLordDave** » Mon Feb 25, 2002 9:36 pm

Clean Yoshimo out right before you enter Spellhold, either at the front gate or right before you talk to Desharik about having you declared mentally incompetent. There shouldn't be any more combat after either point.

Obsidian · Post by **Obsidian** » Mon Feb 25, 2002 9:44 pm

Yoshimoto?
Oh, gotcha, YOSHIMO. He'd be very angry at that...

Don't worry about him taking your gear, you kill him just after you fight Irenicus in Spellhold, so you'll get it all back.

Cyrus · Post by **Cyrus** » Mon Feb 25, 2002 9:50 pm

Actually since Imoen is stripped..

She Needs Yoshi's Gear, he was just to be a replacement till she was back, She's more useful anyways, a Mage with Theif abilities!

Plus why even give Yoshi the SLIGHTEST chance to fight me, I say that he dies quick and easy.. well he's gonna be quick and easy anways, but that's beside the point.. actually it isn't.. uhm ya.

Additionally, You know the whole Slayer thing ya? I went threw this already with my Solo Sorc, and well, I had no problems going Slayer since I had no friendlies to dispatch, and since she was evil, no rep to lose. Now With my Pally, I must ask. Is this going to be a problem with a full party? and How much distance is gonna be enough?

Cyrus · Post by **Cyrus** » Mon Feb 25, 2002 9:51 pm

Originally posted by HighLordDave
having you declared mentally incompetent.

IMO, being a Paladin in the BG world pretty much already says that.

samcu · Post by **samcu** » Mon Feb 25, 2002 9:58 pm

Why don't you try to dual him into another class?

Cyrus · Post by **Cyrus** » Mon Feb 25, 2002 10:12 pm

Why bother he's about 10 minutes b4 he backstabs me

Timekeeper · Post by **Timekeeper** » Mon Feb 25, 2002 11:23 pm

Just a caution. If you strip Yoshi of everything, he still will have his Katana and a Leather Armor to use when he attacks you. Therefore, you can't neuter him before combat and leave him defenseless. You'll just have to fight like every other assassin.

samcu · Post by **samcu** » Mon Feb 25, 2002 11:29 pm

Originally posted by samcu
Why don't you try to dual him into another class?

if you dual him, he will be a lowly level 1 and his thac0 will suck as well as his abilities, ie no hide-in-shadows.

Ode to a Grasshopper · Tue Feb 26, 2002 12:32 am

How to prepare Yoshimo for slaughter.

There are a lot of ways to render Yoshimo harmless. Obviously dump him as soon as you get out of Irenicus' dungeon, so as not to waste valuable XP on him. Dual-class him to a fighter just before entering the Asylum, and don't put any proficiencies in katana or dual-wielding. Equip his katana in his off-hand, though he will get given another one for his main hand, he'll still recieve THAC0 penalties for dual-wielding without any points in 2-weapon style(and you get two katanas+1, which you can then sell for a tidy profit). Give him all the cursed items you can find, eg. Ring of Folly, Bracers of Fumbling, etc.

I prepared Yoshi in exactly this way, and Aerie, completely unbuffed, killed hm in one-on-one melee combat using the Staff of the Magi.

Cyrus · Post by **Cyrus** » Tue Feb 26, 2002 1:59 am

Hmm

Ok Mixed goals here, Killing him won't be a problem, keeping him alive in my game has been. Even with the full gear I gave him he wouldn't stand a chance against my Pally.

If he goes to backstab I cast Truesight and pound him, simple done deal. But you individuals intend to cripple him! and for that. I laugh.

Talk about beating a dead horse

Astafas · Post by **Astafas** » Tue Feb 26, 2002 3:53 am

Are you guys seriously implying that Yoshi should be a threat?!Have your familar take him out for god's sake!

kopywrite · Post by **kopywrite** » Tue Feb 26, 2002 8:55 am

But its quite nice to make him suffer

HighLordDave · Post by **HighLordDave** » Tue Feb 26, 2002 9:04 am

Re: How to prepare Yoshimo for slaughter.

Originally posted by Ode to a Grasshopper
There are a lot of ways to render Yoshimo harmless. Obviously dump him as soon as you get out of Irenicus' dungeon, so as not to waste valuable XP on him. .

Except for the first time I played through BG2 (when Yoshimo was an unseen clever plot twist), I have always dumped Yoshimo after leaving Irenicus's dungeon (more XP for the rest of them). There are other thieves in the game (Jan, Nalia, Adario) who can cover for his theiving abilities. When I am ready to go to Spellhold, I go back to the Copper Coronet and pick him up to do the Mae'Var Guildhouse quests and then we do the Chapter 3 quests.

This way, when I get to Spellhold, there is a built-in spot for Imoen (Yoshimo's primary purpose is to be a placeholder for Imoen anyway) and I still get to the Yoshimo's heart quest for more XP.

Stilgar · Post by **Stilgar** » Tue Feb 26, 2002 9:55 am

Why do Meavar's quest with Yoshimo, you can do it without him to!?

HighLordDave · Post by **HighLordDave** » Tue Feb 26, 2002 10:02 am

I've never tried to do it without him. I always thought the hook for that quest was when you go the Docks with Yoshimo, he says that he has to see Renal Bloodscalp and that was the trigger for the quest. If you don't need Yoshimo to do the Mae'Var quest, then I'd keep someone else (Nalia, Jan) in his place until the last minute and it was time to go to Spellhold.

Arcane · Post by **Arcane** » Tue Feb 26, 2002 10:25 am

acn you like leave yoshimo in the copper coronet and come back to him after you leave the underdark? im not gonna use him cause my lvl 21 assasin is better (x7 backstab OW i wasted Irenicus in the spellhold) but im just wondering cause i DID leave him in the CC and i want to know whter he stays or goes cause im thinking after i finish SoA and ToB ill be a monk...)thx ppl

Cheers

Stilgar · Post by **Stilgar** » Tue Feb 26, 2002 10:26 am

Just pass by the building, and someone will tell you that they have a job for you.