Originally posted by CM
Ask her what she meant?
Why didn't i think of that?
Oh yeah i did, but i am too much of a coward to ask her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yeah that is the reason.
Good solution, CM 
But this really is true.Originally posted by C Elegans
According to the Western gender stereotypes, women are supposed to only want sex with men they love, whereas men are supposed to distinguish between lust and love.
Like this would fly. *Gets angry just thinking about it*Originally posted by Der-draigen
But this really is true.
Men can have sex with anyone at all. And it doesn't have to "mean anything" to them. This is why men can cheat on their girlfriends/wives and say "But I really love YOU; I only had sex with her, it didn't mean anything, I don't understand the big deal."
There's another board where I occasionally post which has an active conservative faction. Precisely this subject was discussed on a thread, recently, and one of these gentlemen was kind enough to condescend when I expressed views identical to yours, above. He wrote that if I'd ever taken college coursework in psychology, I'd understand the the brains of men and women are fundamentally different, and that they literally think differently about everything.Originally posted by C Elegans
Much confusion and feeling that we don't understand the gender we don't belong to ourselves, is based on the gender roles. Most cultures have different gender roles for men and women, ie one set of attitudes, behaviours and personality traits that is accepted and expected for men, another set for women. These gender roles make many of us grow up with the belief that men and women differ in some fundamental way not only physically, but also psychologically. But most of these differences are rather superficial, they are learned just as we learn a lot of our behaviour from our family and surroundings, but they are superficial inasmuch as it's mostly the mode of expression that differs, not the actual feeling or thought befind the behaviour.
When I asked him whether he wasn't perhaps confusing socially conditioned actions with mentally hardwired distinctions (the old nature vs nurture argument), he got close to flame level. The few examples he provided were small boys and girls acting differently in the sandbox, and the toys "they prefer."Hey hey, i may be taking this the wrong way, but i don't fear women.Originally posted by fable
What's sad about this is the pain such extremes can cause to young adult males like CM, who have been repeatedly told that women are incomprehensible, illogical, etc. Then when sexual interest awakens, they're left with the dilemna of seeking contacts with people they've been conditioned to regard with suspicion at best, and fear at worst.
Originally posted by CM
Tom what exactly did i fall for?
Care to explain - i am confused at it is.
Again, you need to exercise same honesty you would like to see from her, and come right out and ask her what she means. I am the last person to give relationship advice, but it may be worth it to even go so far as to ask what exactly she thinks of you and where she would like the relationship to go. While you, at the same time, are honest with her about your feelings, etc.Originally posted by CM
But seriously i can not understand subtle hints.
You want to say something to me, be direct and honest.
I do the same all the time.
I don't understand this concept of playing games or leaving subtle hints when you like some one.
Frankly i wasn't thinking of asking this girl out, until these confusing statements.
I spent a little time with her and i decided it was a good idea.
But this has been in my head since monday.
What confuses me is the comments she makes.
The brains of men and women are totally different? Wow, that's Nobel prize winning stuff - recommend this guy to write to Nature immediately, if he has performed brain studies that show men and women have totally different brains, or if he knows of such studies. No other brain researchers have ever found this, not at anatomical level nor functional level.Originally posted by fable
He wrote that if I'd ever taken college coursework in psychology, I'd understand the the brains of men and women are fundamentally different, and that they literally think differently about everything.
I makes me depressed to see that people actually believe gender sterotypes can be explained and excused with biological explanations. It's just a way of conserving those delusions 
Originally posted by VoodooDali
Women's Rules for Men
1. The FEMALE always makes the Rules.
2. The Rules are subject to change at any time without prior notification.
3. No MALE can possibly know all the Rules.
4. If the FEMALE suspects the MALE knows all the Rules, she must immediately change some or all of them.
5. The FEMALE is never wrong.
6. If the FEMALE is wrong, it is due to a misunderstanding which was a direct result of something the MALE did or said wrong.
7. If Rule 6 applies, the MALE must apologize IMMEDIATELY for causing the misunderstanding.
8. The FEMALE may change her mind at any time.
9. The MALE must NEVER change his mind without the expressed written consent of the FEMALE.
10. The FEMALE has every right to be angry or upset at any time.
11. The MALE must remain calm at all times,unless the FEMALE wants him to be angry or upset.
12. The FEMALE must under no circumstances let the MALE know whether or not she wants him to be angry or upset.
13. The MALE is expected to be a mind reader at all times.
14. The MALE who doesn't abide by the RULES can't take the heat, lacks backbone and is a wimp.
15. Any attempt to document the RULES could result in bodily harm.
16. If the FEMALE has PMS, all the RULES are null and void.
17. The FEMALE is ready when she is ready.
18. The MALE must be ready at all times.
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