The Lord of the Rings...
Ummm...right, so, up for discussion...
What class would you put Glorfindel, an Elf Lord, in?
As a side note, he was my fave side character. I loved how in book II, Tolkien notes how (paraphrased) "The nazgul were caught between the waters and an Elf Lord revealed in full wrath, and were dismayed, and they're horses stricken crazy"
Now, I know, not what it said exactly, but close, and the word dismayed was def used I dunno, I might consider them a Paladin of sorts, since Evil flees from them, but what are your thoughts?
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Melesse
What class would you put Glorfindel, an Elf Lord, in?
As a side note, he was my fave side character. I loved how in book II, Tolkien notes how (paraphrased) "The nazgul were caught between the waters and an Elf Lord revealed in full wrath, and were dismayed, and they're horses stricken crazy"
Now, I know, not what it said exactly, but close, and the word dismayed was def used
I dunno, I might consider them a Paladin of sorts, since Evil flees from them, but what are your thoughts?See Fable, getting back on track...
Melesse
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Afraid of falling down?
Afraid of falling down?
Other one rings?
Rings of Power.
I'm not sure, the power was never really shown, just implied in the user, therefore, given the user and what they did and their realms, all you can do is speculate. Also, since we don't know how powerful, we can only guess at how many abilities one would have, and we have to find the closest AD&D equivalents. For instance, when Gandalf throws fire into enemies, it's not Agannazar's scorcher, but that's close.
Nenya - the Ring of Water, also called "The Adamant" I believe this was more a healing ring, as Galadriel had it, and it would make sense in that the Elves were primarily concerned with nature and it's maintenance and beauty.
BGII Stats -
Invisibility at will
Mass Cure 3/day
Heal 1/day
Summon Shambling Mound 1/day
Elven Druids only may use it.
Narya - the Ring of Fire, also called "The Red Ring" As the elves also resisted Melkor and all of his minions will all their strength, they would have crafted at least one of the rings for war.
BGII Stats -
Invisibility at will
Agannazar's Scorcher 3/day 5d6 save for half
Sunfire 1/day 10d6 save for half All 1's rolled treated as 2's
Fireshield Red 1/day
Elven Mages and Fighters Only
Vilya - the Ring of Air, also called "The Ring of Sapphire" As Elrond held it, and we're never really given a description of it's abilities. However, Gandalf made veiled reference to it in the first book when he talked of hidden power in Rivendell, so I'm going to assume it comes between the two in offensive and defensive power.
BGII Stats -
Invisibility at will
Summon Air Elemental 1/day
Chain Lightning 2/day 6d6 save for half All 1's roll as 2's
Improved Haste 2/day
Usable only by Elves
My take on them, but I dunno. Other thoughts?
Melesse
Rings of Power.
I'm not sure, the power was never really shown, just implied in the user, therefore, given the user and what they did and their realms, all you can do is speculate. Also, since we don't know how powerful, we can only guess at how many abilities one would have, and we have to find the closest AD&D equivalents. For instance, when Gandalf throws fire into enemies, it's not Agannazar's scorcher, but that's close.
Nenya - the Ring of Water, also called "The Adamant" I believe this was more a healing ring, as Galadriel had it, and it would make sense in that the Elves were primarily concerned with nature and it's maintenance and beauty.
BGII Stats -
Invisibility at will
Mass Cure 3/day
Heal 1/day
Summon Shambling Mound 1/day
Elven Druids only may use it.
Narya - the Ring of Fire, also called "The Red Ring" As the elves also resisted Melkor and all of his minions will all their strength, they would have crafted at least one of the rings for war.
BGII Stats -
Invisibility at will
Agannazar's Scorcher 3/day 5d6 save for half
Sunfire 1/day 10d6 save for half All 1's rolled treated as 2's
Fireshield Red 1/day
Elven Mages and Fighters Only
Vilya - the Ring of Air, also called "The Ring of Sapphire" As Elrond held it, and we're never really given a description of it's abilities. However, Gandalf made veiled reference to it in the first book when he talked of hidden power in Rivendell, so I'm going to assume it comes between the two in offensive and defensive power.
BGII Stats -
Invisibility at will
Summon Air Elemental 1/day
Chain Lightning 2/day 6d6 save for half All 1's roll as 2's
Improved Haste 2/day
Usable only by Elves
My take on them, but I dunno. Other thoughts?
Melesse
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Afraid of falling down?
Afraid of falling down?
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Too late, too late! I moved it over to SYM more than a month ago. mu-wa-HA-HA-HA-hA...!Originally posted by Obsidian
@Fable *cough*dwarven thrower* cough*
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Why the invisibilty for the three elvenrings? Although the One ring could make you invisible, but it is never mentioned about the others. And also something else, in the book the one ring would make the bearer invisible to any non-elvish, but not to elvish. I guess maybe that's too difficult to work it into. Also, the rings have no offensive power, they only give power to the bearer to stimulate others or give them limited power. Nenya sounds good, but I would give Narya something like remove fear, courage, emotion, etc. I can only guess about Elronds ring and I am not going to
By the way, I was busy thinking out a party not for LotR, but for the Last Alliance between men and elves, any ideas?
I got Elendil and Gil-Galad so far, Isildur is probably also in, don't know yet about the rest. Maybe Elrond as a healer.
By the way, I was busy thinking out a party not for LotR, but for the Last Alliance between men and elves, any ideas?
I got Elendil and Gil-Galad so far, Isildur is probably also in, don't know yet about the rest. Maybe Elrond as a healer.
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Wasn't that in the first book?Originally posted by Melesse
I loved how in book II, Tolkien notes how (paraphrased) "The nazgul were caught between the waters and an Elf Lord revealed in full wrath, and were dismayed, and they're horses stricken crazy"
About the rings: I give them some ability the all share. e.g "rekindle the hearts of men" would be a charisma bonus and immunity to fear 10' radius and all the rings would have similar, fear-resisiting, charisma-boosting abilities.
Has anyone ever played the ccg from Iron Crown? If so, what do you think about the powersthe rings have there?
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Senor Waesel,
There are really six books, they're just divided into three for printing, so when I refer to specific parts of the book, I use the six divisions as it makes it easier to find where.
And as for the rings, that was my guess I thought someone said that all of the great rings gave their wielders invisibility. As I'm not huge into ringlore, and there isn't much written, it's a guess
Melesse
There are really six books, they're just divided into three for printing, so when I refer to specific parts of the book, I use the six divisions as it makes it easier to find where.
And as for the rings, that was my guess
I thought someone said that all of the great rings gave their wielders invisibility. As I'm not huge into ringlore, and there isn't much written, it's a guess Melesse
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There's a pretty good CRPG plot thread evolving, here. Imagine a game in which your party is tasked (as a subsidiary but longterm plot) with finding, say, six relatively powerful rings, each differently gifted, though their powers are not known until they are worn and used over time. The only problem is that once worn, they cannot be removed; and periodically, those wearing the rings awaken to find themselves no longer near their comrades in arms, but somewhere else entirely.
They would eventually discover that a powerful entity ensorcelled a piece of itself into the rings. As its strength waxed, it was now asserting control over them, and over the bodies and abilities of the ring wearers. If they wished to avoid losing themselves completely to the rings' effects, your party would have to engage in a series of tasks leading to the rings' destruction.
Yes, that does sound a bit too close to Tolkien for comfort. Still, it could be amended in such a way as to make it more distinctive. (Not original. There hasn't been an original fantasy idea in several thousand years. )
They would eventually discover that a powerful entity ensorcelled a piece of itself into the rings. As its strength waxed, it was now asserting control over them, and over the bodies and abilities of the ring wearers. If they wished to avoid losing themselves completely to the rings' effects, your party would have to engage in a series of tasks leading to the rings' destruction.
Yes, that does sound a bit too close to Tolkien for comfort.
Still, it could be amended in such a way as to make it more distinctive. (Not original. There hasn't been an original fantasy idea in several thousand years. )To the Righteous belong the fruits of violent victory. The rest of us will have to settle for warm friends, warm lovers, and a wink from a quietly supportive universe.
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my two cents..
I think that Glorfindel should be a class of paladin as with most Elf lord types, ones that have been to the undying lands at any rate should have a turn undead like ability that works on all evil creatures albeit it can only make them flee, regardless of lvl dif. I dont know how that could be implemented
What about the monsters? This might be a little of topic but what sort of abilities/ strengths should say a balrog have?
So far in bg tob I have noticed most super beefed deamon types are only challenging due to there ability to summon lots of other big baddies, how could something like a balrog be challenging and dangerous to high lvl parties all by its lonesome, I though perhaps innate abilities like dragons have something like fire form where it does wicked mellee damage and it vulnerable to physical attacks and shadow form where its more wizardy and immune to lots of weapons (demi lich style) but takes additional damage form those weapons that can hit it.... thats just my opinion, I need somone to tell me its wrong and why and whats right so I can kill some time reading why
I think that Glorfindel should be a class of paladin as with most Elf lord types, ones that have been to the undying lands at any rate should have a turn undead like ability that works on all evil creatures albeit it can only make them flee, regardless of lvl dif. I dont know how that could be implemented
What about the monsters? This might be a little of topic but what sort of abilities/ strengths should say a balrog have?
So far in bg tob I have noticed most super beefed deamon types are only challenging due to there ability to summon lots of other big baddies, how could something like a balrog be challenging and dangerous to high lvl parties all by its lonesome, I though perhaps innate abilities like dragons have something like fire form where it does wicked mellee damage and it vulnerable to physical attacks and shadow form where its more wizardy and immune to lots of weapons (demi lich style) but takes additional damage form those weapons that can hit it.... thats just my opinion, I need somone to tell me its wrong and why and whats right so I can kill some time reading why
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You're right, @Obsidian.Originally posted by Obsidian
Way to stay on topic fable!
Not too shabby an idea though. Maybe we should send an anonymous e mail to the boys and girls at teamBG...
If no one has anything else to say that's on target, I'll move this thread over to RPGs. That still leaves it available for everybody to post on, but moves it out of the way of a more BG2-specific topic.
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@ Fable: Do you read Inquest?
Your story reminds me a lot of an article some time ago about creative elements in your RPG campaign. That article was about "The cleanser stone" wich did almost what you said about the rings, except that it was a single stone, wich you hold in your hand.
Your story reminds me a lot of an article some time ago about creative elements in your RPG campaign. That article was about "The cleanser stone" wich did almost what you said about the rings, except that it was a single stone, wich you hold in your hand.
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New RPG format?
My good hobbit, this RPG category has been around so long that even the elves acknowledge its antiquity. It dates back to a time before time, when the only other things that existed were the Sea, the Gods, and **** Clark. Yes, it's that old.
My good hobbit, this RPG category has been around so long that even the elves acknowledge its antiquity. It dates back to a time before time, when the only other things that existed were the Sea, the Gods, and **** Clark. Yes, it's that old.
To the Righteous belong the fruits of violent victory. The rest of us will have to settle for warm friends, warm lovers, and a wink from a quietly supportive universe.