Originally posted by Aragorn Returns my room is simply a storage place and a place for me to sleep, my computer isn't even in my room.
Yup. Good thing, too However the storage ran out a few years ago, now it's just getting silly how much stuff is on my floor
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Well I finally cleaned my room, took about two hours and now it actually looks pretty good, now, AN shudders, it is time to get on to that kitchen I was talking about, maybe I'll just throw a match in there let it burn down then rebuild, it would certainly be less effort.
@Georgi I live in what I like to think of as a self sustaining ecology, the spiders kill the roaches, we step on the spiders, the roaches eat up any food left, and so on in a wonderful self sustaining ecological cycle. Of course at times one or the other insect gets kind of frisky and tries to make a grab for one our rooms, but for some strange reason not one ever makes it, do you think it could be our rooms.
But in any case, next with some severely toxic industrial strength bleach and enough latex to cover my entire body, I hope to actually clean the kitchen.
That story about the dishes often rings true here, and of course, we are all male in my dorm, so sad can't have any coed, not crowded here at all. Why I bet if a woman were here, all the cooking and cleaning would always get done.
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my rule of thumb is that i need to clean my room when i have to move rubbish off my bed before i go to sleep, and move it out of the way of the door - and back onto the bed - when i want to get out.
anyway, it almost reached that point a few days ago - i was having to jump about 2 metres over an unstable pile of gubbins to get on the bed - so i cleaned it, put up some shelves and found where my cd collection had gone
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I don't even dare to share my stories of life forms I have cultivated at home, you will find me too disgusting I am the worst slob I know of, possibly I share this honour with a friend of mine who is an interior designer(!). She once asked me if I thought she should clean her flat sometimes - she hadn't done it for 2-3 years, she said, so she was started thinking maybe it's not healthy...Well, now her boyfriends cleans because he can't stand the mess.
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Girls was dishes after they use them. Guys wash dishes before they use them.
No girls I know - I and my female friends probably aren't fulfilling the housewife stereotype very well. I can't recall I have ever washed a dish after using it. Usually, I don't usually eat at plates at home so I actually don't wash them before use very often either.
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I'm a terrible slob too. I have a "living filing system" on my desk. Only clear it off every 4-6 months.
I don't even want to describe the inside of the fridge.
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It's not an issue of fulfilling gender roles or stereotypes based on sex, it's a basic issue of human dignity. Generally speaking, girls have it, guys don't.
There are of course exceptions; my brother lived with one of the most anal retentive guys I've ever met who vacuumed meticulously every day. While she lived at home, my stepdaughter was the biggest slob you've ever met; she moved out of her room in the basement for a couple of days because it was overrun by spiders and other pests attracted to her collection of old fast food wrappers and dirty clothes.
When I moved into the campus apartments, there were some girls living on the second floor (the apartments were coed by room). One of them, Patricia was moving in the same day I was, and her roommate Sandy answered the door as my father and I were hauling my stuff up to the third floor. As I walked by, I heard Sandy say, "I'm sorry about the mess; I wasn't expecting you so early."
Glancing into her room, I saw everything arranged immaculately with a single plate on the table where Sandy had been eating lunch. I arrived at my room, which was directly above Sandy and Patricia, and was greeted by a sink full of dirty dishes, three or four bags of garbage and empty beer cans and a floor full of sand where my roommate Adam had just gotten back from the beach. That was on a Saturday. It stayed like that (and got progressively worse) until Thursday when we collectively washed dishes and took the garbage out.
I've found that the tolerance of guys to put up with filth and squalor is far higher than that of girls. In my experience, when most girls get done cooking a meal for themselves, they will probably clean up soon after (usually after they're done eating and certainly before they go out to the clubs or go to bed). Guys on the other hand, will get done with their "single guy dinner" (often Hamburger Helper, Totino's frozen pizza, Stouffer's TV dinners, etc.) scrape any left overs into a Gladware container then set the skillet in the sink, where it will sit until either he (or one of his roommates) needs it again, or it gets up and washes itself.
As I've said before, there are exceptions, but by and large girls take much more pride in maintaining their living areas than guys do, and it shows.
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Originally posted by HighLordDave It's not an issue of fulfilling gender roles or stereotypes based on sex, it's a basic issue of human dignity. Generally speaking, girls have it, guys don't.
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I've found that the tolerance of guys to put up with filth and squalor is far higher than that of girls. In my experience, when most girls get done cooking a meal for themselves, they will probably clean up soon after (usually after they're done eating and certainly before they go out to the clubs or go to bed). Guys on the other hand, will get done with their "single guy dinner" (often Hamburger Helper, Totino's frozen pizza, Stouffer's TV dinners, etc.) scrape any left overs into a Gladware container then set the skillet in the sink, where it will sit until either he (or one of his roommates) needs it again, or it gets up and washes itself.
As I've said before, there are exceptions, but by and large girls take much more pride in maintaining their living areas than guys do, and it shows.
I haven't seen any studies in the area, so I don't know any representative statistics My personal experience however, is not consistent with yours. I have always had about as many male as female friends, and I've never noticed any gender differences except that more guys than girls can cook. I know very few women my age who can cook a decent meal.
I have however noticed a strong age related difference. In my parent's generation, cleaning seems to be much more important for both men and women. In my grandparent generation, there is a clear gender difference - almost no men over 75 can cook well.
In my own generation, cleaning and cooking have lost their status as important. Both men and women have other priorites, they don't want to spend time with household work since they all got full time jobs - housewives are an extinct species. Using professional help for cleaning and washing clothes are becoming increasingly more common, especially among those who have a family.
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Originally posted by HLD I've found that the tolerance of guys to put up with filth and squalor is far higher than that of girls. In my experience, when most girls get done cooking a meal for themselves, they will probably clean up soon after (usually after they're done eating and certainly before they go out to the clubs or go to bed). Guys on the other hand, will get done with their "single guy dinner" (often Hamburger Helper, Totino's frozen pizza, Stouffer's TV dinners, etc.) scrape any left overs into a Gladware container then set the skillet in the sink, where it will sit until either he (or one of his roommates) needs it again, or it gets up and washes itself.
This is what's known as the "Letting it soak" method of dishwashing, a favourite of teenage males everywhere.
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Originally posted by Ode to a Grasshopper This is what's known as the "Letting it soak" method of dishwashing, a favourite of teenage males everywhere.
That's why I used the bathtub for my dishes (way back in my "single" days) ....I filled the tub with hot water & some soap piled the dirty stuff in and showered it of two days later....
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Only two days later? Beldin, mate, to get the maximum benefit from soaking dishes you have to leave them at least a week. Besides, by then someone else will normally have done them for you. If the things growing on your dishes can't put up a decent self-defence, or at least run away, there's just no sport in it...
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