Day 7300 still don't like LoTROriginally posted by Georgi
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"Lets hunt some Orc" I still think they should have merged LoTR into Erotic Witch Project Movies I've seen lately
Day 10454: Sleepy is right Damn it!Originally posted by Georgi
Day 10453: Sleepy still wrong
I think i would prefer it to the current cut, at least there would be some good....acting I would still detest it, just a little less I'd have to get drunk every night and talk about virility...And those Pink elephants I'd see.
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I've just seen We Were Soldiers.
It is almost impossible not to compare it with Black Hawk Down.
Black Hawk Down was much less corny and had less hero stuff, but believe it or not, it showed you less than this movie did. In this movie there is a scene when Barry Pepper is going to help another soldier who was severley injured in a napalm attack. A medic comes along, and tells him to pick up the guy with him and move him to the helicopeters. As Pepper tries to pick up the injured guy by his legs, his skins comes off.
Unlike BHD, over here there was also the family factor, which was mostly just keechy, except for one very powerful scene, in which the letters informing the wives of their husband death come.
Mel Gibson's character was very much like Tom Seizmore's in BHD. He wouldn't leave anyone behind, was always in the line of fire, and didn't seem to care if he would get shot.
Sam Elliot's character is a clear reference to R. Lee Ermey's part as Hartamn in Full Metal Jacket. Same accent, basic apperence, and attitude. Ermey was obviously much better.
I thought they showed to many radio operators get shot. They must have shown at least five of them get shot in the middle of a transmision.
The lighting looked too much like lighting. Meaning- the lights looked like they were coming from light bulbs, not from fire or explosions.
I liked the depiction of the Viatnamese commander. He was a true leader, not a vicious monster.
The movie starts a bit slow, but then picks up to fighting more clear, but less intense and interesting than Black Hawk Down.
The movie is more superficial than the best Vietnam Movies (FMJ, Platoon, Apocalypce now, Deer Hunter), it doesn't seriously deal with the mental part of warfare. Although, it does make sence, as this is the first big battle of the war.
It is a good movie, with very good action and with ok acting. All around- a bit above average.
But BHD is much better.
7/10
I've just seen We Were Soldiers.
It is almost impossible not to compare it with Black Hawk Down.
Black Hawk Down was much less corny and had less hero stuff, but believe it or not, it showed you less than this movie did. In this movie there is a scene when Barry Pepper is going to help another soldier who was severley injured in a napalm attack. A medic comes along, and tells him to pick up the guy with him and move him to the helicopeters. As Pepper tries to pick up the injured guy by his legs, his skins comes off.
Unlike BHD, over here there was also the family factor, which was mostly just keechy, except for one very powerful scene, in which the letters informing the wives of their husband death come.
Mel Gibson's character was very much like Tom Seizmore's in BHD. He wouldn't leave anyone behind, was always in the line of fire, and didn't seem to care if he would get shot.
Sam Elliot's character is a clear reference to R. Lee Ermey's part as Hartamn in Full Metal Jacket. Same accent, basic apperence, and attitude. Ermey was obviously much better.
I thought they showed to many radio operators get shot. They must have shown at least five of them get shot in the middle of a transmision.
The lighting looked too much like lighting. Meaning- the lights looked like they were coming from light bulbs, not from fire or explosions.
I liked the depiction of the Viatnamese commander. He was a true leader, not a vicious monster.
The movie starts a bit slow, but then picks up to fighting more clear, but less intense and interesting than Black Hawk Down.
The movie is more superficial than the best Vietnam Movies (FMJ, Platoon, Apocalypce now, Deer Hunter), it doesn't seriously deal with the mental part of warfare. Although, it does make sence, as this is the first big battle of the war.
It is a good movie, with very good action and with ok acting. All around- a bit above average.
But BHD is much better.
7/10
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This is probably not exaggeration or creative license, though. Being a radio operator is one of the most dangerous jobs in the infantry, and the bulky equipment almost always marks that man as target numbero uno. The radio operator is the life line between a unit and the rest of the army. Without a radio, a unit (and especially a mobile air assault or cav unit like in We Were Soldiers . . . ) cannot call for reinforcements, artillery strikes or close air support. Unsupported, even the best trained soldiers in the world cannot hold out against a numerically superior and well-equipped foe.Originally posted by Morlock
I thought they showed to many radio operators get shot. They must have shown at least five of them get shot in the middle of a transmision.
You should read the book, too.
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The movie is based upon the book We Were Soldiers Once . . . And Young by LGEN Hal Moore (US Army, ret.) and Joe Galloway. At the time of the battle in the Ia Drang valley, Moore was a Lieutenant-Colonel and Galloway was a reporter for the Associated Press. The book is an apolitical look at military tactics and the first large confrontation between the conventional NVA forces and the US Army.
Unlike Apocalypse Now, Platoon and Full Metal Jacket, Moore and Galloway highlight everything that was good about the US Army. Remember that in 1965, the American involvement in southeast Asia was just beginning and the jaded view of Vietnam had not crystallised. I have not seen the movie yet myself, but from what I've heard it's supposedly very good, if a little overly-sentimental at the end.
Unlike Apocalypse Now, Platoon and Full Metal Jacket, Moore and Galloway highlight everything that was good about the US Army. Remember that in 1965, the American involvement in southeast Asia was just beginning and the jaded view of Vietnam had not crystallised. I have not seen the movie yet myself, but from what I've heard it's supposedly very good, if a little overly-sentimental at the end.
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I think it got mostly bad reviews over here... but then I think the British critics may well be more sceptical about American movies that are so blatently patriotic than the American critics.Originally posted by HighLordDave
I have not seen the movie yet myself, but from what I've heard it's supposedly very good, if a little overly-sentimental at the end.
Who, me?!?
Black Hawk Down-
I've seen this movie twice before.
Now that I actualy payed attention to the names it was much better than it was before (which was great).
My complaint is about the DVD.
It was very disappointing.
I mean the movie was htere fine, but I was expecting much more special features. It had the customary trailers (for spiderman and the one) and filmographies, but aside form that all there was was a pretty weak 'On the set'. I was expecting much more, since the DVDs for Gladiator and Hannibal(despite the fact that the movie wasn't very good) were both 2 DVD sets, full with several extensive behind the scenes, and with audio commentary. I would have settled just for commentary, since Ridley Scott's are always very interesting and amusing to hear, but nothing.
Movie rating: 9/10
DVD rating: 6/10
The Sixth Sense- CONTAINS MAJOR SPOILERS!
This is only the second time I've seen it, but, like the first time, I still fail to see its greatness.
So, he's really one of the dead people. It is not excuse all the hype it got. It's also pointless to see it a second time, since than you know that he's dead, so you easely notice all the signs.
And it's not like the 'Usual Suspect', where the movie is going "who's the guy?" and then says it's him, not him, but they spring it on you out of almost nowhere. Also they don't reveal the truth in a particulaly interesting way, at least not like the brilliant way the US did it.
Obviously, this is only my opinion.
6/10
The Searchers-
I've seen this classic John Ford/ John Wayne movie for the first time.
I was pleasently surprised.
Although all the bad/over acting I expected was still there, it had some great lines and scenes.
If you havn't seen it- It has John Wayne, a former confederate soldier, who comes back from the war to his brothers house.
His brother and all his family are killed by Indians, except for one daughter, who was taken prisoner. The movie is basicaly about him searching for her, and when he finds her, what he's gonna do.
It was a brilliant piece of cinematography when You see the single file line of the good guys in the foreground, and in the background, a similar single file line of the same number of Indians.
The lines I liked:
Mose, (who is slightely crazy) when the Indians charge against them: "For that which we are about to recieve, we thank thee O lord"
Clayton: "The job takes either two guys or a whole regiment. Right now we're too many and not enough"
Marty: "What if you missed?"
Ethan (John Wayne): "Never occured to me"
Clayton: "How many of them?"
Ethan: "A Douzen each. Enough to go around"
Marty: "I hope you Die!"
Ethan: "That'll be the day"
Clayton: "You wanna quit Ethan?"
Ethan: "That'll be the Day"
8/10
I saw a few parts of Moonraker, and it was truely worse than I remebered it. It is the most money based Bond ever.
It was made in 1979, and because of the success of 'Star Wars' and 'Close Encounters of the third kind' decided to make the movie in space.
It was terrible.
The only parts which were the least bit entertaining to see were the two famous pieces of music from other movies. The first were the famous five notes from Close Encounters, used as the sound the keypad in which you put the security code into at Drax's laboratory. The second was Elmer Bernsteins' theme from 'The Magnificent Seven'.
5/10
I've seen this movie twice before.
Now that I actualy payed attention to the names it was much better than it was before (which was great).
My complaint is about the DVD.
It was very disappointing.
I mean the movie was htere fine, but I was expecting much more special features. It had the customary trailers (for spiderman and the one) and filmographies, but aside form that all there was was a pretty weak 'On the set'. I was expecting much more, since the DVDs for Gladiator and Hannibal(despite the fact that the movie wasn't very good) were both 2 DVD sets, full with several extensive behind the scenes, and with audio commentary. I would have settled just for commentary, since Ridley Scott's are always very interesting and amusing to hear, but nothing.
Movie rating: 9/10
DVD rating: 6/10
The Sixth Sense- CONTAINS MAJOR SPOILERS!
This is only the second time I've seen it, but, like the first time, I still fail to see its greatness.
So, he's really one of the dead people. It is not excuse all the hype it got. It's also pointless to see it a second time, since than you know that he's dead, so you easely notice all the signs.
And it's not like the 'Usual Suspect', where the movie is going "who's the guy?" and then says it's him, not him, but they spring it on you out of almost nowhere. Also they don't reveal the truth in a particulaly interesting way, at least not like the brilliant way the US did it.
Obviously, this is only my opinion.
6/10
The Searchers-
I've seen this classic John Ford/ John Wayne movie for the first time.
I was pleasently surprised.
Although all the bad/over acting I expected was still there, it had some great lines and scenes.
If you havn't seen it- It has John Wayne, a former confederate soldier, who comes back from the war to his brothers house.
His brother and all his family are killed by Indians, except for one daughter, who was taken prisoner. The movie is basicaly about him searching for her, and when he finds her, what he's gonna do.
It was a brilliant piece of cinematography when You see the single file line of the good guys in the foreground, and in the background, a similar single file line of the same number of Indians.
The lines I liked:
Mose, (who is slightely crazy) when the Indians charge against them: "For that which we are about to recieve, we thank thee O lord"
Clayton: "The job takes either two guys or a whole regiment. Right now we're too many and not enough"
Marty: "What if you missed?"
Ethan (John Wayne): "Never occured to me"
Clayton: "How many of them?"
Ethan: "A Douzen each. Enough to go around"
Marty: "I hope you Die!"
Ethan: "That'll be the day"
Clayton: "You wanna quit Ethan?"
Ethan: "That'll be the Day"
8/10
I saw a few parts of Moonraker, and it was truely worse than I remebered it. It is the most money based Bond ever.
It was made in 1979, and because of the success of 'Star Wars' and 'Close Encounters of the third kind' decided to make the movie in space.
It was terrible.
The only parts which were the least bit entertaining to see were the two famous pieces of music from other movies. The first were the famous five notes from Close Encounters, used as the sound the keypad in which you put the security code into at Drax's laboratory. The second was Elmer Bernsteins' theme from 'The Magnificent Seven'.
5/10
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Spoilers....
@Sixth Sense
Anything with that kind of hype is going to disappoint. But I thought it was worth a second viewing just because when I find out he's dead, I thought "but didn't he talk to/do this/whatever"... so watching it again, you realise that actually, it was your assumptions, and nobody except the kid had reacted to him.
@Sixth Sense
Anything with that kind of hype is going to disappoint. But I thought it was worth a second viewing just because when I find out he's dead, I thought "but didn't he talk to/do this/whatever"... so watching it again, you realise that actually, it was your assumptions, and nobody except the kid had reacted to him.
Who, me?!?
Couldn't think of anywhere else to put this, so:
Has anyone else got the Blues Brothers sound track? I found it in a honkey record store in town the other day...man, that stuff is genious...although quite a lot are just old 'Soul Classics' (Think, Soul Man etc) there are a couple of quality tracks on there as well (the Ironside theme tune ) as well as Rubber Biscuit, possibly the wierdest thing I've ever heard John Lee Hooker singing (heard it Beldin?)...
Also, I heard that they made a serious album...anyone heard it?
Has anyone else got the Blues Brothers sound track? I found it in a honkey record store in town the other day...man, that stuff is genious...although quite a lot are just old 'Soul Classics' (Think, Soul Man etc) there are a couple of quality tracks on there as well (the Ironside theme tune
) as well as Rubber Biscuit, possibly the wierdest thing I've ever heard John Lee Hooker singing (heard it Beldin?)...Also, I heard that they made a serious album...anyone heard it?
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a honkey record store in town
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Got to agree, it just bored me really, Haley joel olsmet wasn't particularly good either, he is one of the best child stars i have ever seen, but that doesn't say a lot reallyOriginally posted by Morlock
The Sixth Sense
In my opinion Unbreakable was much better, still not great but certainly better than Sixth Sense
I'd have to get drunk every night and talk about virility...And those Pink elephants I'd see.
Well it's one conceivable meaning of the word "honkey"...Originally posted by frogus
Pardon? Do you mean by this that AVID actually makes a honking noise (like one of those old car horns)?
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