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Originally posted by Kameleon
Aren't we Little Miss Grumpy today...

Don't use The Usual Suspects in examples, btw, as I still haven't seen itThe way I see it, all these people were following a man with a vision of the Fight Club - the only time he outwardly fought with himself was at the very beginning in the car park, and that was partly because he was drunk. Everything else that happens between them is in his head - to everyone else he seems sane enough, though obviously prone to mood swings as he changes from the persona of the narrator to that of Tyler Durden. What people follow him for is the Tyler Durden personality, not because he goes around beating himself up. Could you explain more what didn't click?
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Ok. *double take* You haven't seen it?!? :eek: Well see it! Now! Right now! Dammit! :D No, I can't really explain any better :D Suffice to say, I just didn't like it. I didn't say they followed him because he goes around beating himself up, I'm just saying that if he had conversations with himself in public, that might make people think he was rather odd... I don't really remember much of the detail. *shrug*

Oh, one of my friends has tried to convince me that it is all about masculinity and testosterone... frankly, his attempted explanations didn't make me any more favourably disposed towards it... ;) You're doing better, but still no banana. :D
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Originally posted by Georgi


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Ok. *double take* You haven't seen it?!? :eek: Well see it! Now! Right now! Dammit! :D No, I can't really explain any better :D Suffice to say, I just didn't like it. I didn't say they followed him because he goes around beating himself up, I'm just saying that if he had conversations with himself in public, that might make people think he was rather odd... I don't really remember much of the detail. *shrug*

Oh, one of my friends has tried to convince me that it is all about masculinity and testosterone... frankly, his attempted explanations didn't make me any more favourably disposed towards it... ;) You're doing better, but still no banana. :D
Yes, it is top of my list of videos to see, but our local Blockbuster has gone over to almost all DVDs, and we don't have a player. *sniff* I'm sure I can find a friend who has it on video...

I seem to have gotten somewhere, if only in that I got further than your friend :D I think I'll drop it now, I'm not really getting anywhere and I've used all my good arguments :p I'd probably have to see it again as well...
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Originally posted by Kameleon
Yes, it is top of my list of videos to see, but our local Blockbuster has gone over to almost all DVDs, and we don't have a player. *sniff* I'm sure I can find a friend who has it on video...

I seem to have gotten somewhere, if only in that I got further than your friend I think I'll drop it now, I'm not really getting anywhere and I've used all my good arguments I'd probably have to see it again as well...
*puts it in the post* :D
Seriously, videos are dirt-cheap to buy now, you could probably get a copy for a fiver. (It's worth the investment. ;) )

LOL :D I don't know, I suppose if I saw it again my opinion could change, but since I didn't like it I hardly want to do that ;)
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Originally posted by Georgi
*puts it in the post* :D
Seriously, videos are dirt-cheap to buy now, you could probably get a copy for a fiver. (It's worth the investment. ;) )
That's a good idea - I might do just that. Right now I'm off to watch Anne Robinson have the pee taken out of her by 8 American comedians in the Weakest Link :D
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@Beldin, it doesn't say who sings it in the credits...it doesn't sound too much like JLH, but it sounds just enough like him and just unlike everyone else enough to make me think maybe it is him...however, I don't have his records, so I don't know the voice very well... :rolleyes: :)

I'd love to hear more about their other records though...

BTW - Spiderman...is the guy in it the one from The Ice Storm?
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Originally posted by Kameleon
Don't use The Usual Suspects in examples, btw, as I still haven't seen it :)
Then hurry - it's a great movie! :) Even made my top five (in no particular order):

The Usual Suspects
Fight Club
Moulin Rouge
Almost Famous
The Royal Tenenbaums
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Jaws- a great movie, though I'm pretty sure Georgi will dismiss it as a reamark from a spielberg fan. :rolleyes:

If you didn't know this, the movie was the first to cross the 100 million dollar line, and started the term 'Summer Blockbuster'.

It is really Spielberg's first clame to fame, since his first movie(Sugarlad Express) wasn't especialy well accepted.
From this he got the budget for 'Close Encounters' which eventualy led to Raiders and ET.

The DVD has one of the best making of documentries I've ever seen. It has interviews with Spielberg, the producers, Richard Dreyfuss and Roy scheider, the actors, plus the set designer, cinematographer and, the finale, John Williams! (which was a big reason for me getting the DVD)
One amusing anecdote, is that once the boat started to sink, in real life, as the actors, cameraman and sound guys were on it. The producers and Spielberg were yelling "get the actor off!" So the sound guys went "**** the actors! save the sound department!"

The Documentry is great at balancing out the amount of info and
entertainment. It's both Interesting, and funny at the same time.
Although anti Spielberg people will not like all of the praise he gets.

The movie itself is really effective at getting the message to the audience.

As is said in the documentry, I believe that the music was, besides great melodicly, the most important effect in the movie.
As Spielberg said: 'I think the score was clearly responsible for half the success of the movie'
The music is in preperation stages for the first hour of the movie, then it really scares you. What I mean is, the movie makes it clear at the start that everytime a shark is near, you'll hear the tune.
Than it tests you by giving you a scene where you think you see a shark, but there's no music, so you say to yourself 'I guess the music has nothing to do with it', but then you find out that the shark is really a couple of pranksters, so your faith in the music is multiplied, as it didn't mislead you.
Then again, everytime the shark is near- the music plays. so when at the end sequence the shark apears from nowhere without the music, it terrifies you, as you thought you'd have some warning.

Another thing about the score, is that it always cheers you up when you need it the most. In the last hour, when they're on the fishing boat, in between the sharks apearences the you start to get bummed out, as you know he'll be back, but the music always keeps a fighting theme going, it sounds like there preparing for war, so you get into it and excited again.

Anyway, the score is great, probably the most effective one, with the exception of the imperial march, and it is certainly well deserving of it's oscar.

I read that originaly Lee Marvin was offered the part of Quint, and that after he turned it down, it was offered to Sterling Hayden, who couldn't do it, so it finaly got to Robert Shaw.
I can just imagine how perfect Marvin and Hayden would be as the grumpy sailor, but Shaw was the best.

Movie rating: 9/10
Score rating: 10/10
DVD rating: 8/10
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Originally posted by frogus
BTW - Spiderman...is the guy in it the one from The Ice Storm?
Yes, indeed. At least... the one who isn't Elijah Wood. Interesting, I hadn't realised that. I must see The Ice Storm again, it was a good movie. :)

@Morlock nah, Jaws is one of the good ones :p
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Originally posted by Georgi

@Morlock nah, Jaws is one of the good ones :p
That's all you give me? I wrote that whole long thing, and you just give me one sentence? :rolleyes:

I might have to review another Spielberg just because of that! :D
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I've just seen Blade Runner- Director's cut for the first time in a while.

I still don't know why this became so popular, I thought it was pretty bad.

The opening view of the whole city is great, but it just goes down hill from there.

I thought Harrison Ford didn't have enough of a presence.
His character was a cross between the boyish charm of Han Solo and the maturity in Indiana Jones. I don't think it worked well.

I really hated the score by Vangelis, who is so irritating in sticking exclusivly to the synthisizer/electronis music. the score had some good notes, but the fact that they were electronic totaly ruined them.
Blues is not supposed to be synthisized!!! :mad:

I was thinking that coke must have paid millions for the huge ads they put in.

I hate Deryl Hanna, who I believe has absolutly no talent, and has ruined every movie I've seen her in.

It's annoying that they have such a great actor like Edward James Olmos, but give him only a sentence or two to say.

One thing that is good about the directors's cut is the ending. Instead of the violent bloody ending, they toned it down to fit the story better.

I really hated the movie. It' hard to believe that this was made by the same guy who did Gladiator and Black Hawk Down.

3/10
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I think that you also have to consider that at the time Blade Runner was made (1982), it was on the cutting edge of science fiction movies. You can count the number of good sci-fi movies made up until then on two hands, and if you view most of them by todays standards of special effects and technique, they aren't as good as they were 20 years ago. For instance, Alien is half as scary as it was when it was first released because the android looks fake and you can see that the chest-burster is a puppet. Yet it managed to scare the bejesus out of a lot of people for a lot of years. Blade Runner does have many shortcomings, but it's still one of the seminal sci-fi movies that should be on everyone's must-see list.
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Originally posted by Morlock
That's all you give me? I wrote that whole long thing, and you just give me one sentence?
But that was only in reply to the first sentence. :p :D
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To our big Spielberg fan Morlock. Have you heard of Spielbergs next project, Jurassic Park 4, the link is here

Sounds very interesting :D
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Originally posted by HighLordDave
Alien
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The makers of Alien did not properly inform the actors of what was going to happen in that scene, when you see their reactions they are quite genuine, they were quite surprised by the chestburster ;)

@Blade Runner, i think it is a seminal classic and can direct few complaints at any of it. Also i quite like the score...
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@everyone: could someone else give a more lengthy response to my Jaws review? I'd like to know what the people think.

@Tamerlane: I wouldn't call it his next project, as I believe that only applies to directing. Also, he is in the midst of one project (Catch me if you can) and is in the planing process of another (Indy 4).

@HLD: I am not talking about the Sci Fi point of view (which IMO sucks), but about the acting and the story line. Even the antique 'Flash Gordon' had a decent story line, not to mention that Star Wars and Close Encounters already came out to great successes.

@Sleepy: Hope you don't mind if I take your idea.

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@Blade Runner, i think it is a seminal classic and can direct few complaints at any of it. Also i quite like the score...
Could you post your own review then? doesn't have to be in response to mine, just why you liked it so much.

BTW- you won't get me to agree that Blues works sythisized, so don't even try! :p ;)

Roger Ebert came out today with this interview with Steven Spielberg and Tom Cruise. He gave it two tumbs way up! a masterpiece!
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hey! i have the bladerunner soundtrack, and the directors cut is one of my favourite films ever.

i haven't seen it for a while, but the sweeping urban landscapes with the flare stacks studding the horizon, the actual feel of a constructed city - not one built ebtirely new, but built up over time, the question of deckard's true identity, the final 'tears in the rain' speech on the rooftop, the perfect portrayal of Roy by Rutger Hauer, the claustrophobic and uncomfortable sets, the huge advertisements broadcast in a veritable slum, the blending of the futuristic - Hover cars! - with the lo-tech and dirty, without jarring contrast.

you notice that i don't mention the plot. the plot is excellent, but i by far prefer Philip K D!ck's original book. the treatment in the film is good, and the ending is very well done, but it is the utterly stunning sets and design, the rain, the noise, the neon, the minimal noir dialogue.

basically, it deserves its ranking of number 3 in my all time favourite films. so there
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anyway, most of the soundtrack isn't blues. take the old jazz (a noir detective movie referance), the wonderful arabic piece, the music during the speech at the end, the piano music, or the end credits music. those pieces are both wonderful and fittng, and only a couple really stick out when watching the film, and they usually aren't the best ones. the best merge seamlessly with the action to create an experience par excellence.

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Morlock, I agree with your review of Blade Runner completely, apart from the soundtrack, which I didn't altogether loathe. I've only watched the director's cut, and in the film (which I've watched twice) I never got a sense that maybe Blade Runner was a replicant. Is this something that was partially taken out of the DC? Or am I just dumb.
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Or am I just dumb
sorry man.... :( :rolleyes: ;) :)

I love the ambiguety of that movie's ending...it's like Hitchc0ck or something... I don't remember the soundtrack especially, but @ Morlock, the more you watch it, and the more you think about it, and the less you try and be influenced by what other people have said about the film, the better it gets...

@Kam, I've got a Usual Suspects video, but I too have never watched it... :confused: Anyway you can borrow it after I've seen it. :)
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Originally posted by Morlock
@Sleepy: Hope you don't mind if I take your idea.

Morlock's wonderful movie fact for today:
In 'The Shining', Stanely Kubrick made sure that the kid had no idea he was in a horror movie. His parents didn't allow him to see the movie till he was 16.
Steal away, that is a good one :cool: :)
Could you post your own review then? doesn't have to be in response to mine, just why you liked it so much.
Sure but i will have to re-watch it (probably tomorrow evening), the last time i saw it was about 5 months and since i want to praise it (cause i like it :) ) i would like to remember the mood and medium correctly.
BTW- you won't get me to agree that Blues works sythisized, so don't even try! :p ;)
I wouldn't even dare :cool: The truth is i like the soundtrack and i think most of it is appropriate to the film and it's mood, i don't think a more contemporary musical feel would have worked, but i will get onto that in my review :)
Roger Ebert came out today with this interview with Steven Spielberg and Tom Cruise. He gave it two tumbs way up! a masterpiece!
@Morlock, how much stock do you put in Egbert's reviews? I have always found his reviews either inaccurate or jaded, he used to do a column in a TV guide and his choices for film of the week were always poor. I am not saying he is wrong in this particular instance though :)
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Originally posted by Robnark
you notice that i don't mention the plot. the plot is excellent, but i by far prefer Philip K D!ck's original book.
That is an excellent point, the book is really good and not at all similar to the film. It revolves more around the Deckard individual rather than his mission. Where they diverge is probably for cinematic means more than anything else since the posturing in the book could not be transferred properly to the Silver Screen.

I also recommend one reads the K.W Jeter novels which are sequels, they answer a lot of questions and are fascinating.
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