Apathy/Cynicism (no spam)

Ode to a Grasshopper · Fri Aug 02, 2002 8:58 am

If/when a revolution comes to Oz, I'll be in it. Until then I'm staying a cynic.

Silur · Post by **Silur** » Fri Aug 02, 2002 9:43 am

Originally posted by Ode to a Grasshopper
If/when a revolution comes to Oz, I'll be in it. Until then I'm staying a cynic.

My point exactly!

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Fri Aug 02, 2002 10:07 am

Originally posted by Mr Sleep
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My question i guess is, how many people out there have turned cynical and what was your main reason, do you think there is a cause in society or is the reasoning more personal. Is there a single incident that made you the way you are or has the cynicism simply developed over time?

Also, is it such a bad thing?

Well - I don't know if I can point to any single thing that has shaped me into the cynic I am today.
There are possible a load of incidents that have all added up, wich I guess is how most peoples personalities are shaped.
The sum of experiences.

I guess mine started about when I was 6 with my parents divorce,
This in its own, did nothing to me, but the events that have comed by it during the years have certainly had its influences.
Failed romances/relationships (misserable failed - not your average "being dumped" -events) proberly also have had influences on it.
Peoples actions/reactions towards you will also have influenced me. (like a person trying to frame you for a theft, she committed and then finding out she became a murder a year later - real story btw

-etc )
Friends comming and going would proberly also push ones attitude.
And then there is all the other stuff that happens around you that affects you.

So - no - there is no one event that have made me the way I am.
Lately though, I don't feel the "I don't care"-feeling, I just get the "Boy, people are *really* stupid"-feelings

Word · Post by **Word** » Fri Aug 02, 2002 11:26 am

I am cynical because it gives me this shell of not being hurt in.

Gwalchmai · Post by **Gwalchmai** » Fri Aug 02, 2002 12:41 pm

I would post in this thread, but I don’t really care. (apathy)
Besides, it wouldn’t do any good. (cynicism)

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Fri Aug 02, 2002 2:00 pm

Originally posted by Gwalchmai
I would post in this thread, but I don’t really care. (apathy)
Besides, it wouldn’t do any good. (cynicism)

I don't really care that you don't really care.

My opinion wouldn't have any effect on you caring anyway...

@Silur, oh i do work with what i have got and that seems to get me by, i mean i have fun and i can laugh and joke. I am not usually a bitter or disillusioned person, however my first reaction to things is the cynical one, it's become knee jerk, hopefully when i get out of my current cycle, start doing more proactive things that will change...we shall see

@Xan, sounds like an interesting story you have there

Do you know i think you are the only person in this thread to directly answer my question

So i am not the only cynic, praise atman!

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Fri Aug 02, 2002 3:26 pm

Originally posted by Mr Sleep

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@Xan, sounds like an interesting story you have there <snip>

Well - wich ones ?

Okay - so I've not had the big adventures per se, but I've certainly seen my share of "action" in regards of various "interesting" human behaviours

And to think, I only scored a "very high" on paranoid on the PDI test a little while back - but maybe, that was max?

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Fri Aug 02, 2002 3:37 pm

Originally posted by Xandax
Well - wich ones ?

I think the tale about "framing for theft" sounds quite interesting

And to think, I only scored a "very high" on paranoid on the PDI test a little while back - but maybe, that was max?

LOL

i would assume the highest of the high would be something like J Edgar Hoover

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Sat Aug 03, 2002 3:42 am

I don't view myself as a cynic and certainly not apathetic, so probably I shouldn't be in thread at all. However, I was very cynic for a while in the middle and late teens. I actually meant to post about my teenage depression problems and how I got out if that permanently in Aegis "I it really worth it" thread, but I believe I forgot to post. I'll probably post there later, if you read that the below will be clearer and make more sense.

Anyway, the reason I got so cynic in my teens, was probably
1. I came from a sheltered background with overprotective parents. When I was about 11-12 I started to notice the world wasn't as nice and safe and my family would view it, but they continued to maintain an IMO naive and narrow worldview for many years and gave me no support in how to handle the fact that this world is not so nice. They started to change in my late teens because of things that happened to them, but they are still a bit cynical and passive IMO.
2. A lot of bad things happened in my life in a very short time spam, it's a story that would fill a novel but it includes, the person in world I was closest to died, several of my friends died, somebody tried to kill me, etc. The world felt like a bad place, the human nature seemed destructive and petty...and I became cynical in a specific kind of way.

My type of cynisism wasn't apathetic and not even especially pessimistic, rather it expressed itself as misantropy, nothing about the human nature shocked me or surprised me, and I expected nothing from nobody since human nature was so despisable. I was absolutely not suspicion or something, on the contrary, I cared little about people in general, only my selected group of friends meant anything. Well, at least I developed very well as a climber during this period...

Ode to a Grasshopper · Sat Aug 03, 2002 10:45 pm

Originally posted by Silur

My point exactly!

I thought so. Glad to be of service.