elves und rangers

Lare · Post by **Lare** » Sat Mar 10, 2001 9:05 am

heyas all.
do elves get their natural longbow and longsword +to hit bonuses in bg2 too?

also, since every class is able to succesfully wield two weapons at the same time, do rangers still have some sort of bonus with this?
If not, i find rangers very bad melee weapon users, since they only get that to be proficient with weapons.

Brink · Post by **Brink** » Sat Mar 10, 2001 10:09 am

Rangers can put +++ in dual wield.In addition,they start with ++ in dual-wield.

Not sure about the elves question,sorry

The Outsider · Post by **The Outsider** » Sat Mar 10, 2001 10:24 am

Yes, elves get their bonus to hit (and, possibly, to damage as well).

I'm curious: why the sense that rangers should have a bonus / natural affinity for dual-wielding. I never played as / with rangers in PnP, so I never looked at their rules etc.

Carrot · Post by **Carrot** » Sat Mar 10, 2001 10:54 am

Rangers in PnP wre supposed to be albe to dual wield withour a penalty. This was the only claas that was able to do that.
Btw Rangers can specializ in weapons not be proficient.

Quitch · Post by **Quitch** » Sat Mar 10, 2001 6:28 pm

It's because we Rangers look so goddamn cool dual wielding long-swords while beating into our foes respect for nature

I must say, I always thought of Rangers as bow characters, but BG2 certinally changed that for me

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whitelight666 · Post by **whitelight666** » Sat Mar 10, 2001 8:35 pm

i think in the original AD&D the dual wield of the ranger class is to balance somewhat for their inability to wear heavy armor and lack of mastery.

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Vehemence · Post by **Vehemence** » Sat Mar 10, 2001 10:06 pm

That'd be nice if Rangers could at least have Mastery. ie three proficiencies.

sigurd · Post by **sigurd** » Sun Mar 11, 2001 3:35 pm

Well, Vehemence, if a ranger would have 3 slots they would be far overpowered.
The only difference between having 3 or 5 slots is 1 damage and one speedfactor better, while there is greater difference between 2 and 3.
Be glad that rangers have 2, and then the extra abilities of a ranger.