Dumb Question

BigNewt · Post by **BigNewt** » Fri Jan 10, 2003 1:44 pm

This is really quite stupid....but I'm just double-checking.

How do you re-charge items that do not automatically recharge after resting? Like the Staff of the Woodlands for example....do i really have to sell it to a store for a buck, and then buy it back for 12 grand to get the Shambling Mound to work???? Cause that sucks.

fable · Post by **fable** » Fri Jan 10, 2003 2:42 pm

Originally posted by BigNewt
This is really quite stupid....but I'm just double-checking.

How do you re-charge items that do not automatically recharge after resting? Like the Staff of the Woodlands for example....do i really have to sell it to a store for a buck, and then buy it back for 12 grand to get the Shambling Mound to work???? Cause that sucks.

No, that's called strategy.

If you had free reloads for charges on all wands and such, BG2 would be even more of a sleepwalk than it currently is. And how much fun is a victory that's worth nothing?

Still, if you want that, here's the cheese method. SPOILER AHEAD...
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Take your items to any merchant in town. Sell 'em; have your thief consume at least one point of Master Thievery, and steal those items back, fully charged. You'll only be able to sell them again to the merchant at the front of the Thieves' Guild, because all other merchants will reply that they don't buy stolen goods.

And no, I don't do this. But if you hang around here, the question comes up about once every couple of months. Hard to miss.

Rav · Post by **Rav** » Sat Feb 22, 2003 9:48 pm

Re: Re: Re: Dumb Question

Originally posted by UncleScratchy
That's not cheese, that's called strategy. It's just common sense to sell a wand that is out of charges. Its also makes sense that if you can't afford an item you may want to try to steal it if your thief is up to the task. I save all those one charge wands from Irenicus' dungeon until I have a thief that can do this. Sad thing is that I seldom use the wands once I have them. My favorite thing to steal is spell scrolls that I don't have yet or are hard to come by, that way there's no fencing involved.

No it is cheese, since normally the Merchant wouldn't be able to recharge the item either, and even if he was a high level Mage and could, he still wouldn't be able to do it in a microsecond...

fable · Post by **fable** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 12:57 am

It's also cheese because the merchant should be able to recognize that his own merchandise was being stolen from under his nose and sold back to him. If not, how do merchants in the game world stay in business? Other people would be doing it all the time.

garazdawi · Post by **garazdawi** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 3:32 am

@Rav But why would a Merchant want an uncharged wand in the beginning? He might want it because just next door he has a very gullible mage who usually helps him to recharge the wands he buys from adventurers..... and now the shop keeper has a real wand with full charges......

@Fable: Merchants are busy people. They cannot keep up with everything in their store..... Besides I belive that the Lord of Murder to be has quite fast fingers........ for stealing stuff and all..... he is after all a God..... or maybe his companion is a really stealthy lookin gnome? People usually look over gnomes anyway because of their low stature so it is very possible that teh merchant just does not see teh gnome sneeking in....

Krynus · Post by **Krynus** » Mon Feb 24, 2003 12:53 am

There's a much easier way of recharging "x-per-day" items. After using however many charges of it that you'd like to, just shove the item into one of the bags (potion bag, bag of holding, etc.) depending on what type of item it is. Once you take it out again, it'll be recharged.

For example, you use the Helm of Vhailor to get yourself a Simulacrum. Throw it into the Bag of Holding, and then take it out and give it to someone else, who'll know also be able to use the Simulacrum ability.

Note: This does not work with fixed charge items -- ie. wands

Ieo · Post by **Ieo** » Mon Feb 24, 2003 6:58 am

Wasn't the bag-of-holding trick fixed by a patch somewhere? I could've sworn...

Krynus · Post by **Krynus** » Mon Feb 24, 2003 10:38 am

I don't think so. I've got all the latest Bioware patches, the Baldurdash fixpack, and a whole bunch of WeiDU mods, and it still works for me

fable · Post by **fable** » Mon Feb 24, 2003 10:51 am

Originally posted by garazdawi
@Fable: Merchants are busy people. They cannot keep up with everything in their store..... Besides I belive that the Lord of Murder to be has quite fast fingers........ for stealing stuff and all..... he is after all a God..... or maybe his companion is a really stealthy lookin gnome? People usually look over gnomes anyway because of their low stature so it is very possible that teh merchant just does not see teh gnome sneeking in....

Humbug!

A top-of-the-line, expensive item like a wand, perhaps the most valued item in a merchant's stock, worth more than everything else together, and they can't track the one or two they've got? I must conclude that this group of merchants is myopic and moronic.

Which makes me wonder why they're not over in the Government district.

garazdawi · Post by **garazdawi** » Mon Feb 24, 2003 12:36 pm

Originally posted by fable
Which makes me wonder why they're not over in the Government district.

lol, I couldn't agree more

Leonardo · Post by **Leonardo** » Mon Feb 24, 2003 2:06 pm

Originally posted by fable:
Which makes me wonder why they're not over in the Government district.

Because the ones in the Government are the ones doing the stealing?