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Strength effects on missile weapon damage?

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Well, my day isn't really complete if I haven't asked an annoying question or two, so here goes - I'm trying to get clear on what effect (if any) STR has on missile wepon damage - I know Dex affects the THAC0 rather than STR, but does STR have any effect on damage? If so, is it the same as normal melee effects?

Also, does skill improve THAC0, damage and weapon ROF for missile weapons like it does for melee?

It's hardly critical, but I'm curious ;)
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Originally posted by nephtu
Well, my day isn't really complete if I haven't asked an annoying question or two, so here goes - I'm trying to get clear on what effect (if any) STR has on missile wepon damage - I know Dex affects the THAC0 rather than STR, but does STR have any effect on damage? If so, is it the same as normal melee effects?

Also, does skill improve THAC0, damage and weapon ROF for missile weapons like it does for melee?

It's hardly critical, but I'm curious ;)
I'm not sure but I belive that the only thing u need str for when using a bow is to pull the string back, this str varies between different bows. But is has no affect on the amount of damage other than the lasrger the bow the greater the damage it does.
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I believe that, in BG only, strenght bonuses are added to missle weapons.
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Not that I know off,
Melee weapons require strenght for extraa damage
missile weapons Dexterity
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Some big bows have a minimum Strength requirement, but only slings seem to add Strength to damage. Maybe throwing axes too... Slings rock!
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Sorry, but how come slings rock, I never used one because I thought they sucked
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Slings are great for clerics and druids, since it's the best ranged weapon they can use. In TotSC I believe you can get a Sling +3.
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Originally posted by The Z
Slings are great for clerics and druids, since it's the best ranged weapon they can use. In TotSC I believe you can get a Sling +3.
Yes and a mighty sling it is!!!! u can find it in that great tower.......
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What's the effect? I thought that you had to use +1 ammo to get the bonusses and hit things like FleshGolems?
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Post by garazdawi »

Originally posted by Mister Popo
What's the effect? I thought that you had to use +1 ammo to get the bonusses and hit things like FleshGolems?
It works exactly like any +3 item. It adds 3 to damage and 3 to thac0, but IIRC u still need to have a +1 bullet to hit flesh golems......
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I don't think there are Flesh Golems in the original Baldur's Gate, so you needn't worry about that :)
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Alas poor Z there are.
To be exact in the Lighthouse sector and in High Hedge.
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Originally posted by Mister Popo
Alas poor Z there are.
To be exact in the Lighthouse sector and in High Hedge.
indeed and all know what goodies there is to be found there....right? :D
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yeah, a really hot babe named saffana!
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Originally posted by Mister Popo
yeah, a really hot babe named saffana!
That is not exactly what I had in mind.... I ment the book of constitution, but I have to agree with you that she should probably also be on that list ;) :p :D
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Originally posted by Mister Popo
Sorry, but how come slings rock, I never used one because I thought they sucked


Slings are the only missile ammo weapon that can be used with a shield.

Thrown weapons (axes, daggers & darts) can but they do not use the missile ammo slots so you run out too quickly. Also, they have a shorter range so you can't use them in conjunction with, say, a fireball spell.

The main problem with slings is they have a very slow rate of fire.
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Originally posted by Mister Popo
Alas poor Z there are.
To be exact in the Lighthouse sector and in High Hedge.


Oh....them. I really ought to pay more attention to what I'm hacking up with Varscona and Ashideena :D
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Post by Xyx »

Slings can be used with a shield (as mentioned) for big AC bonuses, and they add Strength bonus to damage (perhaps unrightly so). If you have good Strength, one sling shot does the same damage as two bow shots, but you get the shield on top of that.
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What's the strenght I should be thinking about, or does it follow normal strength stat lines just like other weapons.
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Post by JackOfClubs »

Originally posted by Xyx
If you have good Strength, one sling shot does the same damage as two bow shots, but you get the shield on top of that.

This is a good point, but in all fairness there are arrows that do much more damage that any sling bullet (piercing and biting for instance). But with similar ammo you are quite correct.
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