Known bugs

Jeep_guy16 · Post by **Jeep_guy16** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 3:59 pm

Tower bug

OK, I read somewhere else this has been happening to people besides myself, but I have found no way to get around it as of this moment.
OK, when you are in Ch. 2 and are at the top of the Host Tower, I can't get any of the people to talk to me, and I can also not open the gate. So at the moment, I am stuck.
(also if anyone would be willing to e-mail me a save file so I can just move on to Ch. 3, my e-mail is dcsmith13@yahoo.com ) Thanks

mikeo · Post by **mikeo** » Sat Mar 08, 2003 10:12 pm

Attack someone on the other side either with a spell or ranged weapon.

Demis · Post by **Demis** » Sun Mar 09, 2003 9:00 am

Host Tower Pinnacle Workaround

Lately i've noticed that several people are having problems with this particular area. Bioware's known issues page offers this workaround:

NPCs at pinnacle of Host Tower not responding
If you have reached the pinnacle of the Host Tower, and the NPCs on the other side of the locked gate do not respond and do not run their in-game cutscene, the best way to continue is by running a particular script. First, press ` or ~ to display the command console in the upper left of the screen and then type the following to enter DebugMode:

DebugMode 1

Once you have done that, prepare for a fight, and then open the command console again and type the following:

dm_runscript 2q6k_startfight

The gate should open, and the NPCs should attack you. Once they are disposed of, you can turn off DebugMode with:

DebugMode 0

Then, read your journal entry and use your Stone of Recall to report back to Aarin Gend and finish the chapter.

Sir_Toejam · Post by **Sir_Toejam** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 10:08 pm

lost spell slots on reload

heyall.

I'm surprised not to be able to find a post about this! Whenever i rest, then reload a game for any reason, i lose one memorized spell slot from each spell level. Example: after resting, i have 8 level 3 spells available for casting. if i then save and reload, i now have only 7.

while i have run into several smallish bugs, this one is Major. in areas where you can't really rest, losing spell slots is a killer.

has anyone come up with a fix for this, or have a workaround suggestion???

cheers

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 11:42 pm

Never heard of experienced this one - I have to ask if your game is patched to 1.62?

Sir_Toejam · Post by **Sir_Toejam** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 12:08 am

yup fully patched.

addendum:

this seems related to posts where people say they are dead on reload. in all of those cases, they were at very low health when they reloaded.

my guess is that attribute bonuses from equiped items don't "stick" on save, so when you reload, all of the bonuses are at first lost. then the game "re-equips" the items to give back the bonuses, but any pre-existing bonuses (like increased health or increased spell slots) are lost. to make it clearer, in the case of the dead on reload folks, my guess would be that without the bonus to con items they are wearing, they would have had less than 0 health before saving. then, on reload, the game only adds the bonuses last, so it first detects 0 health, and so you are dead. adding con to a dead person don't make him live.

Ok, assuming that is correct, then we need a fix so that bonuses gained by stat boosts remain "sticky" on save. as a quick fix for dead on load folks, why not just make it so you can't be dead on reload, ever? even if reduced to 1 hitpoint. if game detects dead condition on load, then add 1 hitpoint back. how hard could that be?

cheers

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 12:27 am

[QUOTE=Sir_Toejam]<snip>
Ok, assuming that is correct, then we need a fix so that bonuses gained by stat boosts remain "sticky" on save. as a quick fix for dead on load folks, why not just make it so you can't be dead on reload, ever? even if reduced to 1 hitpoint. if game detects dead condition on load, then add 1 hitpoint back. how hard could that be?

cheers[/QUOTE]

That is way to exploitable, especially in multiplayer games. If a character then dies, he can load the game up again and be alive - that is not good.

But your problem could be connected to this "attribute assignment theory" - it is very possible when thinking of programming methods.
Is your theory supported by your character statistics? (ei. spell casting statistic compared to bonus spell tabel and the number of spells you have availble after a rest/reload?).

Sir_Toejam · Post by **Sir_Toejam** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 5:15 am

yup. tested bare and with boost items. bare does not lose spell bonuses based on pure stats (e.g. with base 18 charisma, get 1 bonus level spell, which is not lost on reload). if add stat boost items, the extra spells those give dissappear on reload (boost charisma to 30 with items, get two bonus level 3 spells after rest, but only one after reload).

I haven't tested to see if same is true of con boost items and death on reload, but it shouldn't be too difficult (just cast some area effect spells near myself, until i'm very near death, then reload).

i see your point about multiplayer death cheese. I guess i stick with my original thought; have to find a way to make bonuses sticky on save.

cheers

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 5:19 am

I think you should report these findings to Bioware, if you haven't already

Although I've not noticed this myself.... I'll have to test it out at some point to see if I also experience it.

Sir_Toejam · Post by **Sir_Toejam** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 1:33 pm

is there a specific addy you have had success with in submitting bug reports to bioware?

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:51 pm

I haven't had any reason - so have never looked for an adress.
You might be able to find one on the bioware official NwN site.

Sir_Toejam · Post by **Sir_Toejam** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 6:04 pm

never had any reason? lol. i am playing fully patched and still finding bugs all over the place. i suppose none of it is really important, tho. is that what you meant?

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 12:10 am

The only real bug I've ever encounted since running 1.62 is the Lenton bug. Which has some workarounds and is a known bug.

I've encountered some bugs in previous versions of the game, but always been able to find a known workaround, or been able to reload my way out of them.

I don't know why - but for some reason I've never been much subjected to all these bugs I read about on the forum(s)