extra bonuses for evil chars at the endgame *spoiler*

Lucian · Post by **Lucian** » Sat Nov 11, 2000 11:22 am

ive just noticed if you go beserk on sarevok, your pc will gain a bonus point to a stat depending on his class rigth after you declare your intent to send him back to oblivion

figthers +1 con
thieves +1 dex
mages +1 int

im pretty convinced that priests will get +1 wis

but for all you doody do gooders..no extra bonus..only the +1 cha and +1 wis for placing the tear

Sourced · Post by **Sourced** » Mon Nov 13, 2000 3:21 am

Yes and good guys get a invulnerability to any weapon lower or equal to +1, a hefty 2 point bonus on all saving throws.

Hmm... IMHO good guys are better of.

Source

[This message has been edited by Sourced (edited 11-13-2000).]

Nighthawk · Post by **Nighthawk** » Mon Nov 13, 2000 9:19 am

CG, CE and all the neutrals get to pick what bonuses they want

Sourced · Post by **Sourced** » Mon Nov 13, 2000 9:49 am

CG and CE ???
What are those?

daemon · Post by **daemon** » Mon Nov 13, 2000 10:19 am

Chaotic Good & Chaotic Evil

Lucian · Post by **Lucian** » Mon Nov 13, 2000 11:17 am

you misunderstood me..this bonus im talking off is NOT from placing the tear..it happens immediately after you decide to give sarevok an extra helping of hurt.

Bordin_Steelaxe · Post by **Bordin_Steelaxe** » Mon Nov 13, 2000 11:42 am

@Nighthawk: Choose? What do you mean by choose? I played a CG char (as I usually do, they're the coolest, yeeeeeeha!!

), but did not see any choices? help me out here pls

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Nighthawk · Post by **Nighthawk** » Mon Nov 13, 2000 12:13 pm

Well, not choose the reward, but choose their actions. Chaotic characters could go either way in most of the tests and have valid in character reasons for doing so.

This bonus is interesting though, I didn't notice it when I was doing my write-up so I'll have to check it out. I know Druids don't get Wisdom though.

Lucian · Post by **Lucian** » Mon Nov 13, 2000 12:21 pm

for the sarevok bonus ive found so far that:

figthers gain +1 strength
paladins gain +1 con
thieves gain +1 dex
sorcereres/mages gain +1 int

but sadly you suffer an alignment change to neutral evil if you just pick any of the evil ways...there doesnt seem to be a good change for evil chars

Nighthawk · Post by **Nighthawk** » Mon Nov 13, 2000 1:15 pm

The alignment change seems to be dependent on a combination of selections. I don't think any one choice causes it to happen. Despite all the time I spent trying to figure this out for the write-up, there are still some pieces I'm missing...the alignment change I have heard about but haven't gotten to figure out. This extra stat I hadn't heard of or seen before.

Every time I start to think we've covered everything, something new comes up.

Lucian · Post by **Lucian** » Mon Nov 13, 2000 1:33 pm

ive tried making a fresh char and moving him to hell ar2900..nomatter what evil path in any test you take you become neutral evil if you dont are it already or CE..and if a paladin takes evil 2 times he becomes a fallen paladin

Leviathan · Post by **Leviathan** » Mon Nov 13, 2000 3:57 pm

i played a cg character. went the evil way in th test where you can choose between having your stats lowered or have a party member killed. I resurrected the party member and i am still cg.

Lucian · Post by **Lucian** » Mon Nov 13, 2000 3:59 pm

strange..but perhaps the game counts to see if the party member is dead or alive..try do it again..but doesnt resurrect the char

Maurice · Post by **Maurice** » Mon Nov 13, 2000 4:49 pm

My brother (Daemion) remarked that according to the alignment, it is logical that the character didn't change his alignment.

After all, the character was CHAOTIC good, meaning he will primarily look after himself, and place others at the second place at best. If he has to choose whether he dies or a companion, he should always choose to live and let the companion die.

So the fact that you didn't change alignment is logical, since you choose the right answer. I wonder what happens, though, when you sacrifice yourself instead ... I think nothing - both choices are good for this character.

zilfa · Post by **zilfa** » Tue Nov 14, 2000 8:23 am

I was Lawful Good and let one of my party die
and my alignment didn't change.

Maurice · Post by **Maurice** » Tue Nov 14, 2000 8:30 am

That's weird ... and it still didn't change after placing the tear??

Nighthawk · Post by **Nighthawk** » Tue Nov 14, 2000 9:44 am

I did a little more messing around with this and it seems that Sarevok is the key to the alignment changes.

The alignment change appears to be attached to the Str bonus that appears in red. If I look at the character in Shadowkeeper, it says his alignment is still CG but in the game it shows as NE.

BTW, putting yourself before others is an evil trait, not CG. On the other hand, an intelligent CG character might reason that death is much less permanent than the stat loss and therefore the better option for the group!

Lucian · Post by **Lucian** » Tue Nov 14, 2000 12:36 pm

if you pity sarevok and gain the wis and cha instead..that will also be listed in red and not show up like the strength bonus before youre in the game

Lucian · Post by **Lucian** » Tue Nov 14, 2000 12:47 pm

NightHawk..what writeup where it you where mentioning earlier in this thread?

Nighthawk · Post by **Nighthawk** » Tue Nov 14, 2000 2:24 pm

Look at the Area Quests/Hell section.

I just listed out the actions/rewards for the good and evil sides in each of the tests.

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