hypothetical question regarding rangers

[corsair]

Ok, here it goes: Lets say my character is a Ranger with the Archer kit. Lets say I have a Grand Mastery in Long Bows and a Proficiency in Halberds. Then, for someknown reason, I go around and kill innocent peasant folk (Who me? ) My rep. drops below five and I lose my status as a Ranger and become a vanilla fighter. THen, I throw a buncha money in an offeratory plate 2 bring my rep back up so I dont get killed. If I do all this, will I keep my Grand Mastery in long bows, be able to go further in Halberds and wear plate mail? I know Ill loose my ranger abilities like called shot, but think about this: A guy in Full Plate Mail with Grand Mastery in Halberds and Long Bows! Talk bout a tank! Of course, unless I cheat, it will take an awfully long time to do that, but hey, thats what GOd invented cheats for, right?

[UserUnfriendly]

that's actually a very interesting question...are you sure you'll lose called shot??

also i suspect strongly that you'll keep all the really primo archer bonuses, like the bonuses to hit and damage with a ranged weapon...a fallen archer would be an incredibly cheesy character, as good as a kensai in many respects...if you keep the ranged weapon bonuses and called shot, you have something much much more powerful than even a kensai, in many respects...also, if you dual to mage...

you should get ranged weapon bonuses with melf minute meteors, or energy blades...called shot energy blades...yikes!!!

[UserUnfriendly]

Ok, i thought this was possibly a cheese idea...

by becoming a fallen archer, i thought you might keep archer bonuses and then gain grandmastery in meelee weapons, thus keeping the best attributes and those wonderful bonuses to hit and damage that the archer kit has with ranged weapons, possibly even being able to dual class to mage (without installing the fighter class archer kit from tactics mod)

after making a archer, and lowering reputation to 2, making it fallen, i've found out the script not only removes called shot, but it also removes completely all those wonderful archer bonuses to hit and damage with a ranged weapon...

so its not a cheese, but a pain..

corsair, you would be much better off making a vanilla fighter, and putting points in both longbow and halbard regularly...

or install ease of use mod, and installing the grandmastery for multiclasses component and putting points in both as a figher/whatever....

or heck, just use shadowkeeper and make yourself grandmaster at any melee weapon you want...