Bardic Knowledge and Appraisal?
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Sh4d0wS0ul
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Bardic Knowledge and Appraisal?
How exactly do you use these two skills as i am getting tired of spending so much gold on identifying +1 weapons.
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Lime_Jello24
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Well if you wish to Identify an item instead of paying for it is do like my honey does. Go to safe location and open your wizard, socoress, or cleric spell list. (he usually goes to the INN in Omlet)
Use Identify in place of your current spells. When your finish rest and click on your charrie opening the the circle and on the right side under 0 1 2 3...(each of those numbers depicts the spells on each level you are) identfy should be there. Click on Identfy and then he or she will atomatically open there back pack . A wand will appear and all you do is click the item you wish to have identified. If you want another item identified then repeat the process. If you need more identifies and you run out rest and they'll be back.
I think it costs but I am not sure. I do think it's cheaper....about the cost I COULD be on crack about it. You can do the same thing with read magic on scrolls. Just make sure you switch your spells back the way they were because it will REALLY suck going into battle with out them changed.
As for Apprasel, I personal found this useless and pointless. But if you want to know the cost of an item you could save your skill points put it some where more use ful and when you go to sell/trade with people they should say how much there willing to give you for it.
If I am completely on crack here or off base on anything I sure people will tell you. I am pretty sure I am right about this.
Hope this helps!
Use Identify in place of your current spells. When your finish rest and click on your charrie opening the the circle and on the right side under 0 1 2 3...(each of those numbers depicts the spells on each level you are) identfy should be there. Click on Identfy and then he or she will atomatically open there back pack . A wand will appear and all you do is click the item you wish to have identified. If you want another item identified then repeat the process. If you need more identifies and you run out rest and they'll be back.
I think it costs but I am not sure. I do think it's cheaper....about the cost I COULD be on crack about it. You can do the same thing with read magic on scrolls. Just make sure you switch your spells back the way they were because it will REALLY suck going into battle with out them changed.
As for Apprasel, I personal found this useless and pointless. But if you want to know the cost of an item you could save your skill points put it some where more use ful and when you go to sell/trade with people they should say how much there willing to give you for it.
If I am completely on crack here or off base on anything I sure people will tell you. I am pretty sure I am right about this.
Hope this helps!
~"Fire Ball'ing them is the only way to be sure"~
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Sh4d0wS0ul
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I already know to how to identify stuff via party spell casters and each spell costs 100gp so u might aswell do it from a shop, saves your spells and time having to go to the Inn and rest. I meant Bardic Knowledge, a feat for bards that supposedly lets them make a check of their bard level + Intelligence bonus but i'm not sure how you make this function for items. I think i have worked it occasionally in conversations but i'm not 100%.
Thanks for the help anyway.
Thanks for the help anyway.
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Lime_Jello24
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Bardic Knowledge gives hints to an items function, but not full knowledge of an item the way that identify does.
Appraise will not allow you to identify the functions of a magic item, but will only affect the sale price. Appraise will occur automatically when you try to sell items.
I haven't tried this myself, but you might want to use the Create Wand feat to create a Wand of Identify. There is an upfront cost, but I don't believe it will charge you for each of the uses. Like I said though, I haven't tried that.
Hope this helps.
Appraise will not allow you to identify the functions of a magic item, but will only affect the sale price. Appraise will occur automatically when you try to sell items.
I haven't tried this myself, but you might want to use the Create Wand feat to create a Wand of Identify. There is an upfront cost, but I don't believe it will charge you for each of the uses. Like I said though, I haven't tried that.
Hope this helps.
~"Fire Ball'ing them is the only way to be sure"~
Bardic Knowledge is not used in TOEE. The Bard simply does not have it.
The use of Appraise skill depends on wich patch you have.
Unpatched :
The merchant check the skill of the PC currently talking and use that to calculate prices. You have to put all valuable items in the inventory of the PC with the highest skill to make good money, and that makes bartering take a long time.
Atari's Patch:
The merchant checks the skill of ALL the PC's, and use the higest. Bartering is quicker and you get the best price depending on skill.
You don't have to move items around.
The Appraise skill IS NOT useless, it's very valuable. Rouge & Bard have it as class skill and can get a high score in it, but i let my Wizard take it cross-classed since he's got the highest INT score, and summons a 'Raven' familiar (+3 on Appraise skill). At lvl 10 my party have more than 500 000 gold ALL the TIME ! (I make and sell magic items too).
Always have one PC take Appraise as high as possible, then you don't have to pick up worthless loot like 'black leather gloves' and such.
The increase in prices is at level 1 around 30-40 % from min/max skill score, later you get close to 100 % increase in prices. Don't go adventuring without an Appraiser !
Co8 patch let's you use 'Read Magic' on potions. This is nice, but i normally let my wizard make 100 scrolls of Read Magic. They cost 6 gp and 0 XP ta make, so now i pay only 6 gold to identify scrolls or potions. I do this because it's much quicker than traveling to town to rest and to free up inventory space. It also let me carry on longer while in the dungeon.
For 'Identify', Craft Wand is the way to go. It has 20 charges and is very cheap to make. If you have pen & paper at hand you can 'track' the wand of 19 charges and sell it at full price to a merchant. (You can do this with all wands to save gold).
To make a lot of money:
Buy a masterwork weapon or use one of them stupid daggers +1 you find so many of. Enchant it all you can. Generally, if you spend 30.000 gold on it you can sell it for 100.000 gold !!!with a good Appraise skill.
Have Fun & Porsper
The use of Appraise skill depends on wich patch you have.
Unpatched :
The merchant check the skill of the PC currently talking and use that to calculate prices. You have to put all valuable items in the inventory of the PC with the highest skill to make good money, and that makes bartering take a long time.
Atari's Patch:
The merchant checks the skill of ALL the PC's, and use the higest. Bartering is quicker and you get the best price depending on skill.
You don't have to move items around.
The Appraise skill IS NOT useless, it's very valuable. Rouge & Bard have it as class skill and can get a high score in it, but i let my Wizard take it cross-classed since he's got the highest INT score, and summons a 'Raven' familiar (+3 on Appraise skill). At lvl 10 my party have more than 500 000 gold ALL the TIME ! (I make and sell magic items too).
Always have one PC take Appraise as high as possible, then you don't have to pick up worthless loot like 'black leather gloves' and such.
The increase in prices is at level 1 around 30-40 % from min/max skill score, later you get close to 100 % increase in prices. Don't go adventuring without an Appraiser !
Co8 patch let's you use 'Read Magic' on potions. This is nice, but i normally let my wizard make 100 scrolls of Read Magic. They cost 6 gp and 0 XP ta make, so now i pay only 6 gold to identify scrolls or potions. I do this because it's much quicker than traveling to town to rest and to free up inventory space. It also let me carry on longer while in the dungeon.
For 'Identify', Craft Wand is the way to go. It has 20 charges and is very cheap to make. If you have pen & paper at hand you can 'track' the wand of 19 charges and sell it at full price to a merchant. (You can do this with all wands to save gold).
To make a lot of money:
Buy a masterwork weapon or use one of them stupid daggers +1 you find so many of. Enchant it all you can. Generally, if you spend 30.000 gold on it you can sell it for 100.000 gold !!!with a good Appraise skill.
Have Fun & Porsper
Oh, When all else fail, put the Dwarf up front!