Sarevok, you're pathetic...................

prateek · Post by **prateek** » Sat Jul 21, 2001 1:13 pm

Minsc, in BG1 kick sarevok's ass nearly single handedly, ripped him apart.

And now this:

okay, so i gave minsc a const and dex point in that lum mad machine, i had them duel.

Sarevok's got nearly the highest proficieny you can get, 5 in two handed, 2 in two handed style, and wield's a +5 psion blade.

minsc, on the other hand, has 2 proficieny slots in two sword style, and i think a few in long swords. he's got the answer +4 and foebane +5

Minsc is also 3 levels underneath sarevok in my party.i reloaded after this because of the negative armor effects the answer had.

Well, anyway, Minsc, who had about 30 hps less, i had him used armor of faith, then hardiness (the results may be cumulative, i'm not sure) and critical strike. Sarevok, got hardiness and deathblow.

the two duel it out, no potions.

Minsc kick his ass 3 levels under, and kicked his ass as a level 5 beserker in BG1

neverhtelss, sarevok is extremely useful, as he is my second best tank, anomen my third (he's a low level fighter, a pretty good cleric though, even if his wisdom is rather low.)

I had them

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Sat Jul 21, 2001 1:27 pm

Why not try the fight again, only with just regualr equip (utilizing the abilities) no spells, or special abilities. Just mono-a-mono.

tyco · Post by **tyco** » Sat Jul 21, 2001 1:33 pm

I think it's because Sarevok isn't properly motivated. He hasn't been himself since the events in BG1. You should give him some incentive and duel it out between Sarevok and your PC and then see what happens.

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Sat Jul 21, 2001 2:38 pm

Originally posted by prateek:
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Well, anyway, Minsc, who had about 30 hps less, i had him used armor of faith, then hardiness (the results may be cumulative, i'm not sure) and critical strike. Sarevok, got hardiness and deathblow.

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Without calculating anything - I'd say, try running it again - without Minsc getting Critical Strike - that makes a huge difference

[ 07-21-2001: Message edited by: Xandax ]

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Sat Jul 21, 2001 3:33 pm

I beleive that tried to tip the scale somewhat...

Xyx · Post by **Xyx** » Sat Jul 21, 2001 4:06 pm

If they both use Whirlwind, nearly all of Minsc's dual wield advantage vanishes...

pip · Post by **pip** » Sat Jul 21, 2001 4:13 pm

Maybe Saverok will use deathbringer assault on Minsc...

Meerlight · Post by **Meerlight** » Sat Jul 21, 2001 6:21 pm

Wait what exactly does DEATHBLOW do to Minsc again? is he above level 10? I certainly hope so. Critical Strike kinda tipped the scales because MINSC DOES DOUBLE DAMAGE!!! Try the duel again and pick better abilities for Sarevok. (deathblow is the most useless ability)

TheHellion · Post by **TheHellion** » Sat Jul 21, 2001 6:35 pm

Very poor test. As has already been said, Deathblow isn't going to have any effect whatsoever on Minsc; it's worthless. And Critical Strike means Minsc is doing double damage with every hit. Your favoratism for Minsc is quite clear, and I think you tipped the scales in his favor because you wanted him to win. Even the odds, and then try again. I like Minsc a lot, but toe-to-toe, Sarevok will rip him apart.

Panda · Post by **Panda** » Sun Jul 22, 2001 4:51 am

Stop making fun of my brother!!!

First he had an unhappy childhood, then he got killed, and after that he had a hard time in hell!!!

And now you people make fun of him!!!

Vehemence · Post by **Vehemence** » Sun Jul 22, 2001 5:17 am

Originally posted by Panda:
<STRONG>Stop making fun of my brother!!!

First he had an unhappy childhood, then he got killed, and after that he had a hard time in hell!!!

And now you people make fun of him!!! </STRONG>

And fanatic has a new definition...

prateek · Post by **prateek** » Sun Jul 22, 2001 9:02 am

ah crap! you're right!

about the deathblow, it barely did anything, i guess i shoul'dve read the description more carefully *shrugs*

anyway, I had the same exact test cept the critical strike + deathblow i didn't use it at all. Sarevok won the first one (deathbringer assualt) and minsc won the second one. Both were actually extremely close.

BilboTheHobbit · Post by **BilboTheHobbit** » Sun Jul 22, 2001 3:17 pm

I bet Minsc has better equipment either way.

Nippy · Post by **Nippy** » Sun Jul 22, 2001 3:26 pm

To even it out give them no armour, equal weapon improvements, ie Sar gets a +4 2hand swrd and minsc gets 2 +2 weapons. See what happens, eqaul levels, no spells just a straight slug out.

GEorGE · Post by **GEorGE** » Sun Jul 22, 2001 3:37 pm

You should also try w/o any equipment, I meen no armor, no using of special abilities and plain fists

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Sun Jul 22, 2001 4:04 pm

even with the no armour thing, Misc still had the advantage. With two weapons, he gets that many more attacks per round. So, when Sarevok only gets the one powerful one, Minsc gets the two, semi-powerful ones. It is still bending towards the side of Minsc winning.

White Rabbit · Post by **White Rabbit** » Sun Jul 22, 2001 6:14 pm

Try using just plain old armor and swords, no enchantments at all. That is the only fair way to do it. No jewlry, shoes, etc. IMO Seravok will win because of his oh so cheesy deathbringer assault or whatever.