Question

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 2:41 pm

What does a 100% self-concealment?

Fiberfar · Post by **Fiberfar** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 2:44 pm

It should make you invisible or that an enemy can't hit you what so ever

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 2:52 pm

So a monk lvl 20 with greater invisibility is imune to physical attack?

Fiberfar · Post by **Fiberfar** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 2:56 pm

a lv. 20 monk is not consealed....
at the epic levels, you can take a feat that gives you consealment. the monk has damage reduction 20/+1 at level 20

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 3:01 pm

He still get empty body at lvl 18 (the monk gains a 50% concealment bonus 2 time a day)

So i meant he has it at lvl 20

Fiberfar · Post by **Fiberfar** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 3:05 pm

I don't think improved invisibility stack with empty body but I'll try that out.

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Zel Greywords · Post by **Zel Greywords** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 4:10 pm

Note: the highest you can reach in the D20/D&D system is 100% concealment. BUT that doesn't mean you're 100% protected, but just 50%...

Being concealed means that an enemy needs TWO things to hit you.
- First, a successful "normal" attack roll.
- Second, a successful percentile check to see if the attack actually did hit.
The catch is, the percentile tresholds are NOT the values that NWN uses when writing the line about being "50% concealed".

And iirc, there are just two levels of concealment in the new rule system :

Status A) "partially concealed" (written as "50% concealed" in NWN)
Means there is a 20% chance that a sucessful attack will still miss you.

Status A) "fully concealed" (written as "100% concealed" in NWN)
Means there is a 50% chance that a sucessful attack will still miss you.

So no, being 100% concealed WONT make you invulnerable.

Of course I cannot smell what the NWN developers -really- implemented, but this is what the d20 system offers.

-Zel

Fiberfar · Post by **Fiberfar** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 4:46 pm

In The D&D 3.5 Rules, True Seeing will allow the caster to see things as they originaly are, so consealment don't work. But Nwn is based on a Nwn 3.0 set of rules ( major parts from the 3.0 rules and some parts from Nwn i think)

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:59 pm

So does it actually mean a improved invisibility spell give 20% concealment bonus, And that other concealment bonus spell are still usefull?

Noober · Post by **Noober** » Tue Oct 26, 2004 5:37 am

Imp. Ivis is a proper 50% conceal, even though right now it is bugged and gives no conceal.

Fiberfar · Post by **Fiberfar** » Tue Oct 26, 2004 7:58 am

[QUOTE=Noober]Imp. Ivis is a proper 50% conceal, even though right now it is bugged and gives no conceal.[/QUOTE]

Really???
Didn't notice that....
I am begining to wonder if the 3.0 rules are underpowered or that the 3.5 rules are overpowered. Since Imp. Invisibility has been replaced with the greater invisibility, that makes you invisible for the duration of the spell. No matter what you do......