A subject i thought i would never ask about

CM · Post by CM » Wed May 18, 2005 8:58 pm

LOL! You guys are nuts seriously. But yes it has to be completely shaved. Arm pits and the groin area. So i would prefer using something that can not damage me for the rest of my life and make WR very unhappy

Veet I think is availble here. What about Nair for me or something like that? And how did i just know you would have the answer to this CE

I should just pm you instead of opening such threads.

Magrus · Post by **Magrus** » Wed May 18, 2005 9:02 pm

Oh come on, you could make a whole sitcom with two crazy muslims, a vacuum and that topic!

I'll ask my friend tomorrow and see if she was given any information on hair removal in her class. The girls spent 2 years learning about hair and makeup. There has to be SOMETHING she knows most people don't. At least I hope so, that'd be one horrible waste of time and money otherwise.

Locke Da'averan · Post by **Locke Da'averan** » Thu May 19, 2005 2:41 am

Well if you have to shave it the rest of your life i'd consider the electrocution thingie mentioned above. yes it might be a bit expensive but it's more like a life time investment, like getting a house

as long as it's not ridiculously expensive

Brynn · Post by **Brynn** » Thu May 19, 2005 2:42 am

I have a feeling that you're pulling our legs, Cimmy...

But if you really need advice who am I to deny that?

I say forget Veet and such if you have a sensitive skin, they can irritate horribly. If you're a masochist, you can use wax too, no worries for weeks! (If you overcome, that is...)
Anyway, shaving should be safe if you don't rush

Brynn · Post by **Brynn** » Thu May 19, 2005 2:44 am

[QUOTE=Locke Da'averan] as long as it's not ridiculously expensive[/QUOTE]
Afaik it is, and they can't guarantee that the hair will never grow back. The beautitian I asked about it said that it "only" lasts for a couple of years.

CM · Post by CM » Thu May 19, 2005 6:35 am

I want a quick rub on wipe off solution. Not something that will make me bankrupt for the rest of my life.

I am not gonna wax my boys. You nuts? Shaving takes to damn long. 20 minutes is not the kind of time i have to spend with my boys with a blade.

So creams it is. Typical. I ask a bunch of gamers about personal hygiene. How dumb can i be?

I mean i doubt any of you took a shower this decade

I should ask some blondes i bet they would know everything

So any blondes here on GB?

Brynn · Post by **Brynn** » Thu May 19, 2005 6:38 am

[QUOTE=CM]So creams it is. [/quote]
Only if you don't have a sensitive skin.
[Quote=Cimmy the Hairless]
I should ask some blondes i bet they would know everything

So any blondes here on GB?[/QUOTE]
Why, you didn't find the answers satisfying?

CM · Post by CM » Thu May 19, 2005 7:08 am

[QUOTE=Brynn]Only if you don't have a sensitive skin.

Why, you didn't find the answers satisfying?[/QUOTE]

Hmm then me gots a problem. I may have sensitive skin i have no clue really. I have excema, which basically means if i sweat too much my skin breaks out into a rash.

I do find them satisfying i was just messing around. You need to chill

Locke Da'averan · Post by **Locke Da'averan** » Thu May 19, 2005 7:24 am

[QUOTE=CM]Hmm then me gots a problem. I may have sensitive skin i have no clue really. I have excema, which basically means if i sweat too much my skin breaks out into a rash.

I do find them satisfying i was just messing around. You need to chill

[/QUOTE]

well you can see if your skin is sensitive by trying it out

btw, how much does the electrolysis cost as a whole 4time treatment?

and i'm blonde, but i don't shave, i just groom

Cuchulain82 · Post by **Cuchulain82** » Thu May 19, 2005 7:55 am

Kinda personal, proceed at your own risk

This is, by far, the best thread I've ever opened on a Thursday morning!

Seriously- this one takes the cake. I wish you had just titled it "I've got hairy *****; any ideas?" and then made a poll with the various solutions.

Actually, I am a hairy guy, so I know a little about this. Shaving isn't bad. It takes a little while, and you will feel pretty silly afterwards because you will look like you're about 8 years old (you've had hair down there for how long?). If you really want to giggle, imagine a large, hairy white guy with one bald spot... at this point all you symers must be rolling on the floor laughing.

As for cremes (nair, etc.) I'm superstitious, but only because my intuition tells me that a creme that dissolves all the hair on an area can't possibly be healthy long term. However, if you find articles about it that say otherwise, I would be interested in clarification.

In any case, shaving anywhere else on your body is like shaving your face. If you get irritated by going against the way the hair grows, don’t do that. Buy a good razor, use shaving crème, and be patient! This isn’t something you want to hurry through…

[QUOTE=Locke Da'averan]Well if you have to shave it the rest of your life i'd consider the electrocution thingie mentioned above.[/QUOTE]
Aaaaahhh!

Don't do that! You want to go to a clinic so someone there can run a current through your *ahem* "junk" to kill hair?!?! Bad idea, imo- more so because it will be uncomfortable as all hell. The same can probably be said for the laser treatment and waxing. Take a moment and consider the idea of covering said "junk" in hot wax to facilitate the process of ripping out the hair in that most sensitive of areas- yikes! Maybe all you Muslims are just sadists

One last question- why do Muslims have to do this? I mean, I don’t think all Muslims do, right? And do women have to do it, same as men? What is the motivation (scripture, custom, regional…)? I’m just kinda curious.

Brynn · Post by **Brynn** » Thu May 19, 2005 7:55 am

Hm, I would advise you to stay away from creams, then... You can still try it, of course, and see what the result is. All I know is that it's bad for my absolutely normal skin...

Afaik the electrowhatisit hair removal costs around E800, and takes 3 months or so to complete.

Magrus · Post by **Magrus** » Thu May 19, 2005 8:01 am

*chuckles* My old step-mothers sister does electrolysis in her house as a living. I can just imagine her reaction to someone wanting that done. A large, shy, anal-retentive Jewish women being confronted by the kitten-killing Fas on hair removal. Oh, wonderful scenario.

The treatment IS expensive, and yes, painful, and isn't guaranteed to last for life. I'd highly NOT suggest it unless you like pain and have lots of money and time.

Cuchulain82 · Post by **Cuchulain82** » Thu May 19, 2005 8:39 am

I really want CM to get back here and give us some resolution. Was it the creme? The blade?

btw, how many other people shave (or trim) down there? It is more popular now, and is even socially accepted (to a degree at least).

@Magrus

CM walking into your step-mom's sister's house and asking for treatment could start a geopolitcal and religious incident of huge proportions!

winter rose · Post by **winter rose** » Thu May 19, 2005 8:42 am

haha you guys are hilarious.

Cuchulain - The whole removing hair thing is for personal hygiene. Cleanliness is a must in Islam. For women and men.

CM -- Laser and such is not a great idea. Firstly its very expensive, secondly you have to have a certain amount of treatments done, thirdly eventually I believe it does grow back. Plus its not all that safe either.

Hair removing creams. Uh thats also up to you. But sensitive skin, I would advise you not to use them.

So you're stuck with shaving. But like I said before, waxing is a great option if you dont want the prickly feeling. Or threading.

Cuchulain82 · Post by **Cuchulain82** » Thu May 19, 2005 8:45 am

[QUOTE=winter rose]Cuchulain - The whole removing hair thing is for personal hygiene. Cleanliness is a must in Islam. For women and men.[/QUOTE]
I guess I wanted to know about the roots of hair removal (no pun intended). I've known a few Muslims- the majority of them didn't shave/remove hair, but I must admit that I didn't start conversation by asking. Others, however, were very open about the fact that Islam says that cleanliness is key, so shave your hair. Is it practiced widely throught the Islamic world, or is it more regional, varying from person to person, place to place? Is it in scripture explicitly, or based on an interpretation? I ask because I haven't ever found a consistant answer.

Magrus · Post by **Magrus** » Thu May 19, 2005 8:46 am

[QUOTE=Cuchulain82]btw, how many other people shave (or trim) down there? It is more popular now, and is even socially accepted (to a degree at least).

@Magrus

CM walking into your step-mom's sister's house and asking for treatement could start a geopolitcal and religious incident of huge proportions![/QUOTE]

Trimming works for me, I'm not even all that comfortable with just using little scissors to trim with down there.

I think it's far more common for females to do so than males. Most of my ex's shaved, I only know of one male friend of mine who does so regularly. At least that admits to it. It's not something that's really brought up often in normal converstion you know?

Oh yeah, that would be an incident and a half there with her. It would be hilarious though. I can't stand her, I can just imagine the twins coming out there. Oh wow, double meaning.

winter rose · Post by **winter rose** » Thu May 19, 2005 8:50 am

[QUOTE=Cuchulain82]I guess I wanted to know about the roots of hair removal (no pun intended). I've known a few Muslims- the majority of them didn't shave/remove hair, but I must admit that I didn't start conversation by asking. Others, however, were very open about the fact that Islam says that cleanliness is key, so shave your hair. Is it practiced widely throught the Islamic world, or is it more regional, varying from person to person, place to place? Is it in scripture explicitly, or based on an interpretation? I ask because I haven't ever found a consistant answer.[/QUOTE]

Actually I am very surprised you've known Muslims who do not remove such hair. You sure you're not mixing Sikhs up here? Anyway yes removing hair from private parts and under arms is a must. Theres a quote that cleanliness is like "a half of faith". Because this hair tends to grow, where as arms and legs etc the hair doesnt grow out, it sort of remains the same. Thats not stressed or a must , that can remain. However under arms and privates - the hair is to be removed. Such things of Islam, we know from Sunnah which are simply the examples of our Prophet. And yes it is widely practiced today. By all Muslims. Its quite obvious that this is important for Muslims since to get most answers we look back to what the Prophet instructed the people to do.

Cuchulain82 · Post by **Cuchulain82** » Thu May 19, 2005 8:50 am

[QUOTE=Magrus]Trimming works for me, I'm not even all that comfortable with just using little scissors to trim with down there.

I think it's far more common for females to do so than males. Most of my ex's shaved, I only know of one male friend of mine who does so regularly. At least that admits to it.[/quote]
I'm less comfortable with scissors than a razor. At least razors are designed not to cut skin- one bad move with scissors... no good.

Many of the girls I've dated have shaved/trimmed/maintained. I think it was a matter of intimate courtesy more than anything. The surprising thing to me now is that some guys are finally knuckling under and admitting they have to do so as well.

[QUOTE=Magrus]It's not something that's really brought up often in normal converstion you know?[/QUOTE]
Well, chalk up another point for the wonders of conversation that the anonymity of the internet can facilitate

. I'd never get the chance to start off my work day with this conversation if I wasn't at SYM.

Cuchulain82 · Post by **Cuchulain82** » Thu May 19, 2005 8:52 am

[QUOTE=winter rose]Actually I am very surprised you've known Muslims <snip> since to get most answer we look back to what the Prophet instructed the people to do.

[/QUOTE]
Maybe the Muslims I knew just weren't explicit in their practices? I guess I just assumed. Your answer is great WR- I wasn't sure if the practice was widespread, regional, or simply a rumor. It makes much more sense now.

Denethorn · Post by **Denethorn** » Thu May 19, 2005 8:55 am

To be honest I've never come across the custom of shaving "the hair down there".

I mostly hear my muslim friends either moan or comment (depending on how devout they are

) about non-halal meat, pork and drinking. Its almost painful watching my friend count down the seconds to when he can eat after 12 hours of fasting during Eid. Not to mention getting up at 5 in the morning so he can eat before sunrise. I give him alot of respect for his willpower.

Never heard of the shaving law though