Sterwick Campaign - Rule discussion and joining

Ravager · Post by **Ravager** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:04 pm

[QUOTE=Hill-Shatar]Ravager, just remember not to overcompensate and make your character as dumb as a brick. Whenever we had to change DMs here in RL, we always had a problem with the person's character becoming totally useless.

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*nods* And that's the problem.

My character will probably take more a back-seat in the story so I don't direct the storyline from two different angles (my character and Sterwick).

I think I can handle it though, just expect less crucial plot dialogue from my character, that kind of thing. Though I'll try not to overcompensate, and welcome opinions once it begins on how I'm doing on that.

Hill-Shatar · Post by **Hill-Shatar** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 2:11 pm

Good luck to both Kipi and Ravager here. If you have problems Rav, go and ask Siberys, more likely, as he is far more knowledgable than I at the 3.5 rulebook.

I'll just lurk and pop in suggestions. If you wish to stear the game a certain way, then you can always utulize your character. I would make him stronger for combat and the like, just so that he isn't totally useless.

If you really need a third person to say something for you character, I guess I could try...

I will most definitely not play it, though.

What does Yepi and darkwolf think of this? Either of you have an opinion (aye, you should, you know...)

dj_venom · Post by **dj_venom** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:17 am

[QUOTE=Hill-Shatar]You too, along with darkwolf and Yepi. I would only get in the way, trying to figure out which direction the charatcers work. (I have to admit, I am only halfway through the dialouge thread)[/QUOTE]

Well, in actual fact, I have been clueless when playing this. Every step of the way, I've just asked Rav, and Kythras when he was here, for assistance, so you're in the same boat as me

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And reading the dialogue thread... only someone who read the whole Heathen Citadel could contemplate reading the dialogue thread.

[quote="Kipi]Okay"]
I hope your touches still live on in the game... whether or not that includes a rock band we shall see

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[quote="Ravager]My character will probably take more a back-seat in the story so I don't direct the storyline from two different angles (my character and Sterwick).[/quote"]

That would probably be the best way to run things. But who takes control, I think slade should as he seems to know a bit about this, so he'd make a good leader.

That or we just all run amok, and hope we end up with suitable decisions

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Hill-Shatar · Post by **Hill-Shatar** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:24 am

And reading the dialogue thread... only someone who read the whole Heathen Citadel could contemplate reading the dialogue thread.

Well, in actual fact, I have been clueless when playing this. Every step of the way, I've just asked Rav, and Kythras when he was here, for assistance, so you're in the same boat as me .

That's good to know. I was worried that I would be regarded as lazy. Now we both will be.

Good luck with your game.

Ravager · Post by **Ravager** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:10 am

@DJV, Well, I'll carry on helping people when I can...

Having a leader is optional, my character just seemed to take over from the storyline point of view, but that doesn't mean one person has to take the lead and others automatically follow- as long as there is general agreement on the direction to take.
So, that's up to everyone's playing style really.

darkwolf · Post by **darkwolf** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:54 pm

[QUOTE=Hill-Shatar]
What does Yepi and darkwolf think of this? Either of you have an opinion (aye, you should, you know...)[/QUOTE]

I must warn you though...the opinion of a clueless man is often hazardous to common sense

...but seriously, at least it's good to see the campaign having Rav as DM. Hopefully not even the weight of all the setbacks can kill interest in the campaign.

Regarding Rav's character, if Sh'rarn is to take a more back-seat approach, what we need isn't really a "leader" but at least a clear sense of direction of where the party should go. That way Sh'rarn can also minimise his dialogue...

(Hill-Shatar, i think if you are giving Sh'rarn a voice-over then effectively you'll be role-playing him isn't it

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I'm at office now...so if there's anything else that crosses my mind, i'll chip in later. Take care all...

Ravager · Post by **Ravager** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 6:51 am

I've been buying lots of D&D reference material over the last few days, (Player's Handbook, DM's Guide, Monster Manual and D&D for Dummies [good guide for new players btw]) so hopefully I should be able to continue this relatively soon, unless Kipi has a specific direction in mind that I haven't been made aware of as yet.

As for my own personal style of this, I will expect players to post their characters on the character thread and make the neccesary adjustments themselves, thus sparing me a lot of work and integrating yourselves better with your characters and D&D in general. I'll say in the game thread when people need to add experience/ treasure to their character's details.
Otherwise I'll probably run this in the same manner as Kipi has, allowing players 48 hours to post their actions.

For major events/fights I may decide to provide experience to only those who have posted (e.g. if you miss a fight entirely you won't get the experience reward or treasure - unless, of course, you have a good reason for not posting). This may also apply to major story events where I would expect you to respond, though I'd make sure everyone knows this is expected at the time.

Okay, I think that's about it. I'll double-check all your rolls later on and see what I can do from the dwarfs point of view.

And thanks to everyone for their support.

dj_venom · Post by **dj_venom** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 11:58 pm

As for my own personal style of this, I will expect players to post their characters on the character thread and make the neccesary adjustments themselves, thus sparing me a lot of work and integrating yourselves better with your characters and D&D in general. I'll say in the game thread when people need to add experience/ treasure to their character's details.
Otherwise I'll probably run this in the same manner as Kipi has, allowing players 48 hours to post their actions.

Awww but that's extra work for us

. I'm up for that, but I do hope however you check them over, just to make sure there are no glaring errors.

For major events/fights I may decide to provide experience to only those who have posted (e.g. if you miss a fight entirely you won't get the experience reward or treasure - unless, of course, you have a good reason for not posting). This may also apply to major story events where I would expect you to respond, though I'd make sure everyone knows this is expected at the time.

Love the idea, it sounds great to me.

Okay, I think that's about it. I'll double-check all your rolls later on and see what I can do from the dwarfs point of view.

Make them do a funny dance, that'll lighten the mood

. But seriously, let's hope diplomacy is an option.

And thanks to everyone for their support.

We should thankyou for taking this unexpected role on

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Ravager · Post by **Ravager** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:18 pm

[QUOTE=dj_venom]Awww but that's extra work for us

. I'm up for that, but I do hope however you check them over, just to make sure there are no glaring errors.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I'll check them over, I don't want anyone taking advantage providing themselves with amped up bonuses and weapons etc.

[QUOTE=dj_venom]Make them do a funny dance, that'll lighten the mood

. But seriously, let's hope diplomacy is an option.[/QUOTE]

From my snappy research, it isn't looking likely. Diplomacy seems to usually take at least a minute (whereas a combat round is around 6 seconds). With Yepi's characte having initiated combat my character only has a round and gets a 10 point penalty to the skill.
So, it looks like you're stuck killing the emissaries of a dwarven king. :devil:

[QUOTE=dj_venom]We should thankyou for taking this unexpected role on

.[/QUOTE]

Glad to do it, it's a good new experience for me.

darkwolf · Post by **darkwolf** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:50 am

[QUOTE=Ravager]Yeah, I'll check them over, I don't want anyone taking advantage providing themselves with amped up bonuses and weapons etc.

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Darn, you sounded like the Necromancer in Diablo 2...are you sure we can't use Amplify Damage?

[QUOTE=Ravager][QUOTE=dj_venom]Make them do a funny dance, that'll lighten the mood . But seriously, let's hope diplomacy is an option.[/QUOTE]

From my snappy research, it isn't looking likely. [/QUOTE]

Aw, would be nice to see them dance...ballet dwarvin' anyone?

[QUOTE=Ravager]
So, it looks like you're stuck killing the emissaries of a dwarven king. :devil:

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Uh evil, very evil! (would we lose alignment point?)...
..er, now Yepi what have you done? Lol...

[QUOTE=Ravager]
Glad to do it, it's a good new experience for me.

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...and for most of us too i guess this is a first time experience. Nice to be able to sit in the same boat of learning

Ravager · Post by **Ravager** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:42 am

I've never played the Diablo games so any similarities were complete coincidence...

Though there are feats that allow you to increase spell damage.

Heh, I can just imagine that. I think the armour would get in the way of ballet a little though.

Well, that depends. A Paladin has a Lawful Good alignment to uphold but in this case I would say my Paladin didn't initiate the attack so there is no harm done.
Although some people may react slightly negatively thanks to this piece of random violence.

I have yet to look into knock-on effects on alignment.

Well, this has been my first DMing and was almost the first playing experience with D&D (though I've played it a bit more by now.

*ahem* Anyway, down to business....

I need slade to roll that 1d20+2 for initiative (in addition to everything he already has)
Yepi also needs to roll Initiative and also choose an attacking order. Oh, 5x round actions (like everyone else has too)

I've run through the battle rolling all the neccesary dies and calculating the results, but the above will finish it off. I could use the stuff I've already placed in (e.g. the attacks for Yepi's character) but I would prefer it if everyone had atated their actions and rolled the dice as neccesary.

dj_venom · Post by **dj_venom** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 8:14 pm

[QUOTE=Ravager]
I've run through the battle rolling all the neccesary dies and calculating the results, but the above will finish it off. I could use the stuff I've already placed in (e.g. the attacks for Yepi's character) but I would prefer it if everyone had atated their actions and rolled the dice as neccesary.[/QUOTE]

Most defintely. Have us control all facets of the game possible, that way, we'll learn it, master it, and hopefully speed up the game and save you work, seeing as you already have enough.

And I have a suggestion, I know that I used to forget about this until I had it bookmarked, so perhaps when you find a thing that needs fixing, you could pm the member. Not sure if you've already done it, but good work if you have.

Ravager · Post by **Ravager** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 8:58 pm

Yeah, I'll probably do that. I don't generally PM people that much, but I'll have to get over that.
Haven't seen too much of Yepi lately though, I hope he hasn't lost interest rather than being around and me just not noticing.

dj_venom · Post by **dj_venom** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:10 am

Yeah, last time he was away and had forgotten to check, because he never read the game thread.

Though I pmed him about that, so he's probably been checking, hopefully he'll update soon, but it never hurts to pm.

Ravager · Post by **Ravager** » Mon Dec 26, 2005 4:30 am

I'm just considering how long to give Yepi now. Maybe tomorrow or the day after I'll post the results of everyone's actions and what I presume to be Yepi's character's actions.

dj_venom · Post by **dj_venom** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 8:10 am

That is probably for the best, and you fill in all rolls.

And if he missed next turn, well, he may have to be removed from the campaign, but hopefully it won't come to that.

Yepi · Post by **Yepi** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 10:39 am

I love this campaign and was on holiday though if im out I will leave gracefully

Hill-Shatar · Post by **Hill-Shatar** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 12:29 pm

[QUOTE=Yepi]I love this campaign and was on holiday though if im out I will leave gracefully[/QUOTE]

Given that DJV posted that earlier today, I think your fine.

If anyone else goes on vacation, you might want to remind Ravager. Otherwise, he gets confused.

Ravager · Post by **Ravager** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 1:08 pm

Yeah, if someone is leaving for a holiday or something, do tell me, eh?

It's no problem in this case though. I was never intending to remove Yepi's character anyway, just to fill the role temporarily. I'm glad I don't have to do that now.

Slade isn't going to be around until the 3rd probably so I'll take control of his character after the combat as neccesary until he returns.

dj_venom · Post by **dj_venom** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 10:09 pm

Hooray, our lovable dwarf has returned from his slumber

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Great to see you back Yepi.