SYM Diplomacy – The Quest for World Domination...

Waverly · Post by **Waverly** » Wed Apr 24, 2002 7:15 am

Aegis: get that retreat in soon, or it will be assumed you retreated off the board.

Waverly · Post by **Waverly** » Wed Apr 24, 2002 10:43 am

Builds and a player needed

Fine, Aegis retreats OTB, saving him the trouble selecting an army to disband.

Builds are as follows:
England: 2
France: 1
Italy: 1
Russia: 3
Turkey: 1

There are also rumblings of an insurrection occurring in one of our powers. I need a volunteer lead the coup. I won’t identify the country until I have a new player, but the game is early and this nation is not in a bad position.

Some advice people: RTFM. I'm sure some of you submitted incorrect orders that still read as legal moves, but were not as you intended them. It's not fair for the GM, who knows the game as well as sees all the orders, to ask you "is that really what you want to do?"

Kameleon · Post by **Kameleon** » Wed Apr 24, 2002 11:06 am

Re: Builds and a player needed

Originally posted by Waverly
this nation is not in a bad position.

Not Austria then...

I agree with the RTM comment - the game would probably look a lot different if people had figured out how to attack properly. Keep asking questions, make up hypothetical situations if you must, or just ask Waverly how to do what you want - unless he's in the pay of Russia, that is

Or you could ask Foul...

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Wed Apr 24, 2002 11:32 am

WTF? I don't respond, because I was unable to within a day, and I get booted from the game? It would've been nice if I had a little more than a notice on the thread, possibly a PM or email or something. It's hard to order a retreat, when I have had no access to maps, or even the past orders in the last day. Basiaclly, I was able to see what had happened, but I was not able to respond at the time, or even read them through fully.

Also, with the combat thing, it would've been nice if when I asked someone to clarify the rules to me, that they would've told me that I had to support and invading army. Instead I was just told to send the army/fleet to the same country. Basically, in this turn my entire game plan got completly FUBAR.

Waverly · Post by **Waverly** » Wed Apr 24, 2002 11:55 am

Originally posted by Aegis
WTF? I don't respond, because I was unable to within a day, and I get booted from the game? It would've been nice if I had a little more than a notice on the thread, possibly a PM or email or something. It's hard to order a retreat, when I have had no access to maps, or even the past orders in the last day. Basiaclly, I was able to see what had happened, but I was not able to respond at the time, or even read them through fully.

Also, with the combat thing, it would've been nice if when I asked someone to clarify the rules to me, that they would've told me that I had to support and invading army. Instead I was just told to send the army/fleet to the same country. Basically, in this turn my entire game plan got completly FUBAR.

I suggest you calm down you little twit. No one booted you from the game, and I checked and made sure you had been on the board several times since I requested a retreat. It should not have escaped your attention that I attach maps for your convenience.

As for your moves, I suggest you re-read my statement above. You submitted legal, if unwise, moves. I’m here to facilitate, not give someone an unfair advantage by suggesting moves for them. RTFM!

As for the insurrection, it regards a player who contacted me and stated they would be too busy to continue. Is that OK with you, or do I need to run these things by you to make sure your little feelings won’t be hurt before administrating the game?

Edit: Kameleon, yes by all means ask me questions. The one thing I can't do critique your strategy, which is what I would have to do to turn one set of legal moves into another, better set.

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Wed Apr 24, 2002 12:42 pm

Originally posted by Waverly

As for your moves, I suggest you re-read my statement above. You submitted legal, if unwise, moves. I’m here to facilitate, not give someone an unfair advantage by suggesting moves for them. RTFM!

I'm not saying you should've warned me about this. I'm p/oed because when I asked for help in understanding the rules earlier, I was not told, by anyone, that I had to support the army, instead of moving it there.

Bloodstalker · Post by **Bloodstalker** » Wed Apr 24, 2002 12:51 pm

If someone is dropping out, and no one has filled the void, I would be interested. Let me know, so I can be reading the manual.

Waverly · Post by **Waverly** » Wed Apr 24, 2002 1:03 pm

Bloodstalker: You are in. The king is dead, long live the king.

Aegis: For the last time, no one held an all encompassing tutorial; the rules were linked multiple times for that purpose. The rules go over every aspect of the game, and several people would have been willing to answer any specific questions. Pages 7 and 8 go over support in great detail.

K0r/\/f1@k€$ · Post by **K0r/\/f1@k€$** » Wed Apr 24, 2002 1:09 pm

Um, who is out? Does the King bit indicate Dottie? Or what?

Actually I guess Nippy.

Dottie · Post by **Dottie** » Wed Apr 24, 2002 1:12 pm

Originally posted by K0r/\/f1@k?$
Um, who is out? Does the King bit indicate Dottie? Or what?

It does not. If it does, Waverly and I have serious communication problems.

Bloodstalker · Post by **Bloodstalker** » Wed Apr 24, 2002 1:13 pm

cool, I am in.....uh, who am I?

In the meantime, I will try to get up to speed, and begin reading the manual. Is there anything I should know right off?

Nippy · Post by **Nippy** » Wed Apr 24, 2002 1:17 pm

Indeed, I'm afraid my workload has increased and I wouldn't want to slow you guys down. BS, you are Germany, if you want the files of moves to get you upto date, mail me and I'll send them to you.

K0r/\/f1@k€$ · Post by **K0r/\/f1@k€$** » Wed Apr 24, 2002 1:22 pm

Originally posted by Bloddstalker
cool, I am in.....uh, who am I?

In the meantime, I will try to get up to speed, and begin reading the manual. Is there anything I should know right off?

I suggest you review this thread for various rule clarifications, and support is especially important to get correct.

PM me or Waverly if you have any problems (I think Dottie has played before as well actually).

Whoever you are, it's more than likely you haven't been active enough. Like Dottie said, an army isn't for digging holes

Also, the diplomacy element is pretty important

Waverly · Post by **Waverly** » Wed Apr 24, 2002 2:04 pm

Indeed, BS will be the Kaiser and not the king per se. Nippy has auctioned off the lowlands his fleet got lost en route to Denmark, bit with some cooperation from neighbors it need not be a bad position. Get talking... and I still need builds from a couple of you.

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Wed Apr 24, 2002 2:10 pm

@Waverly: I had read the rules, and not understood them fully, thus I had asked for help in a general sense, on the combat aspect of the game. The response I received said nothing about supporting your attacking army/fleet. It only said to move you armies/fleets into the country you are invading.

Waverly · Post by **Waverly** » Wed Apr 24, 2002 2:20 pm

Originally posted by Aegis
@Waverly: I had read the rules, and not understood them fully, thus I had asked for help in a general sense, on the combat aspect of the game. The response I received said nothing about supporting your attacking army/fleet. It only said to move you armies/fleets into the country you are invading.

I suggest you take advantage of Foul's offer to help then. I can offer help with mechanics, but certainly can't critique moves once I have those of the other powers.

frogus · Post by **frogus** » Thu Apr 25, 2002 12:45 am

@Waverly, don't I get a build in both Rome and Naples?

Dottie · Post by **Dottie** » Thu Apr 25, 2002 2:36 am

You get a build in either Rome or Naples since the only province you captured was Tunis.

CM · Post by CM » Thu Apr 25, 2002 2:41 am

hmmm also how can you conquer the one building stations or not?
As in want to control Picardy right next to belgium, what can i do to make it blue on the map, or it can't be controlled?

Dottie · Post by **Dottie** » Thu Apr 25, 2002 2:49 am

Only provinces with dots on gives extra armies.