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Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 8:10 am
by Vivien
Originally posted by C Elegans
LOL 
But then you do mean cuddling can include sexual feelings, which means your definition of the word is simply broader than mine? The type of touch I associate "cuddling" with could never be viewed as foreplay or sexual, to me the word refers to the kind of kissing of hugging between parent and child that has no sexual undertone at all.
I think the easiest way for me to describe what I mean, is in terms of arousal. Cuddling to me means physical contact that decreases arousal, ie comforting a crying baby, a child curling up in the parents lap, etc, whereas touch with a sexual tension should increase the arousal level, ie you feel more awake, heartbeat and breathing goes up, etc.
Is cuddly not a manly word? I wouldn't know - what is a manly word? Men and women have equal sexual needs, that is a fact many times confirmed in studies. Do men and women show differences regarding other types of physical contact? I haven't seen any studies regarding this area, but it would surprise me a lot it there were any gender related differences. I can however imagine that "cuddle" would be a more socially acceptable way for women to express sexual needs in societies where female sexuality is still surrounded with more taboos than male sexuality, and the female stereotype still says women connect love and sex more than men do. I could also imagine that according to the typical Western male gender stereotype, perhaps sex drive is more accepted than need for other physical contact.
In any case, I know that personally, I am not fond of physically clingy men, and I'm not fond of "asexual" touch in love relationships with men
Ah, I think we are different types
I took that test of DW's and I am a 2 'the helper' and a 4 'the romantic'. Both require lots of positive reassurance, plenty of compliments and just general 'niceness' (and the ability to handle someone who's as touchy feely [-i.e. clingy] as me).
I believe the men have already gone into the word stereotypes, but I'll jump in anyway. Yes, words in our society sometimes have gender conotations. It's silly and hopefully will go away with time. I think word gender stereotypes are similar to sexual gender stereotypes that may inhibite a person being as they want to be. *shrugs*
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 8:15 am
by Vivien
Originally posted by Ode to a Grasshopper
LOL @Viv! Good topic, there haven't been many genuinely funny threads for a while now. I'm curious that you didn't compare the 'hiding in your sister's bed' trick that your Edwin does, you missed a good opportunity there methinks.
@CE-I think you're right, cuddling is all down to semantics. I had always taken it to be more of a blanket term, as Viv seems to. It can be both asexual or sexual, depending upon who it is you're cuddling. And a wrench is a tool of some sort, like a spanner but bigger IIRC.
@Gwally-I know what you mean, Viv could cause the Pope himself to have serious reservations about his career choice merely by saying 'socks'.
And for Heaven's sakes, what's the big deal about the toilet seat? If you want it down you put it down, if you want it up you put it up. It's not that hard to do.
Hi Ode
Thank you for the compliments to you and Gwally
I've added your thoughts and DW's cage theory to the header, just as an fyi
As to the toilet. First of all, this isn't an issue at my house as my SO came pre-trained. For me, the toilet seat issue is a cleanliness issue. MOST bathrooms have a toilet, sink and bathtub. Most sinks have the toothbrushes in a little cup or holder on the counter a few feet from the toilet. ALL toilets spray when flushed, period. There is not yet a 'super flushy' toilet that does not inject little particles into the air. If a person leaves the toilet seat up, they are leaving the toilet lid up to. This person is spraying MY toothbrush with icky things. *shrugs*
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 8:25 am
by Ode to a Grasshopper
I'm by and large untrainable unless I want to be, but in my house we have a different room for the toilet so the toothbrushes aren't an issue. This is normal for Australia BTW.
I hope you're right about the gender connotations fading over time, I'm a big fan of cuddling, too.
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 9:34 am
by Vivien
Originally posted by Ode to a Grasshopper
I'm by and large untrainable unless I want to be, but in my house we have a different room for the toilet so the toothbrushes aren't an issue. This is normal for Australia BTW.
I hope you're right about the gender connotations fading over time, I'm a big fan of cuddling, too.
I know
That's why you perma hug Georgi
Ah! Then I don't really have a problem with the toilet seat being up...
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 11:03 am
by KidD01
Mmm I surely not cute; huggable ? perhaps
And FYI I prefer my own space and time if I really want to be alone rather than hearing lots of complaints
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 11:55 am
by C Elegans
Originally posted by Kayless
Womanly words? Most french words. Words like faberje', bubble, cuddle, champagne, shampoo. As for childish words; any derivative of poop. Like doo doo, pooh, crap, etc.
That about covers it. Remember that men are impervious to logic, so forget it when analyzing them. In fact, don't analyze men or the words they like. Just bring us more beer. 
ROFLMAO at your explanations
But the French word thing, where does that put French men? Or are they all gay anyway?
truck = cameon
blood = sang
punch on the mouth = donner un taloche
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 12:02 pm
by HighLordDave
Originally posted by Kayless
Womanly words? Most french words. Words like faberje', bubble, cuddle, champagne, shampoo.
You forgot "duvet".
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 12:07 pm
by KidD01
DAMN ! Could anyone give me some translation about those french quotes ?
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 12:15 pm
by Gruntboy
Shouldn't it be "bunnies"?
Women are NOT like.... a dictionary or spellchecker. Pardon the gross generalisation.
I tend to think of myself more like a human Rottweiler than a bunny.
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 12:17 pm
by T'lainya
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 12:20 pm
by KidD01
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 12:24 pm
by T'lainya
KiD
I suspect he doesn't have a muzzle, so i hope you can run fast
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 12:26 pm
by Gruntboy
Well T', I do like to nibble on carrots from time to time to help me see in the dark.
KidD01 has it right. Now I will slobber all over his face.
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 12:30 pm
by Georgi
Originally posted by CM
Ode naked was covered already
Thank goodness for that!
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 12:30 pm
by T'lainya
Originally posted by Gruntboy
Well T', I do like to nibble on carrots from time to time to help me see in the dark.
KidD01 has it right. Now I will slobber all over his face.
How sweet
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 12:32 pm
by KidD01
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 3:11 pm
by Kayless
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 3:14 pm
by Vivien
Originally posted by Gruntboy
Shouldn't it be "bunnies"?
Women are NOT like.... a dictionary or spellchecker. Pardon the gross generalisation.
I tend to think of myself more like a human Rottweiler than a bunny.
That makes two of us who view you this way...but you eat bunnies so that's pretty close
Okay, I can't spell.
That's okay, make fun of poor Viv
*sniffs*
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 3:19 pm
by Robnark
Why not a capybara?
because the raison d'etre of a capybara is to be killed by an anaconda or rampaging pirahnas in a wildlife documentary
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 11:21 pm
by Ode to a Grasshopper
