The Succeeder Stronghold
[QUOTE=dj_venom]Basically, it's about whether or not it is in the public interest to know, then whether it is true.
As such, if you can argue and win that it is not in the public interest, then the validity of the statement is irrelevant, as it dismisses all other claims.
However, I think that has been changed now, and it is whether or not it is true.
So now it's just about arguing about how much truth the statement holds, and whether it was a 'fair comment'.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like it is more like our law now. But I am still interested in the previous position. It seems likely that you could always make a case for it being in the public interest: either the person's reputation is based on a realistic appraisal of whatever fact is under discussion; in which case publication cannot damage it: Or it is based on a false assumption about his or her integrity or whatever; in which case it would be easy to argue that the public should know. At least in the circumstances which spring to mind on first thought
As such, if you can argue and win that it is not in the public interest, then the validity of the statement is irrelevant, as it dismisses all other claims.
However, I think that has been changed now, and it is whether or not it is true.
So now it's just about arguing about how much truth the statement holds, and whether it was a 'fair comment'.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like it is more like our law now. But I am still interested in the previous position. It seems likely that you could always make a case for it being in the public interest: either the person's reputation is based on a realistic appraisal of whatever fact is under discussion; in which case publication cannot damage it: Or it is based on a false assumption about his or her integrity or whatever; in which case it would be easy to argue that the public should know. At least in the circumstances which spring to mind on first thought
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Yeah, but it can be filtered down until it is no longer in the interest.
eg. "That restaurant gave me food poisioning, if you want to get sick, eat there"
Now, while it is true, that would not be the case in all circumstances, and is a rare occasion etc.
Anyway, back to the original case, I move for a dismissal of all claims, due to the person in question not being here.
If that claim fails, I move for an adjournement.
eg. "That restaurant gave me food poisioning, if you want to get sick, eat there"
Now, while it is true, that would not be the case in all circumstances, and is a rare occasion etc.
Anyway, back to the original case, I move for a dismissal of all claims, due to the person in question not being here.
If that claim fails, I move for an adjournement.
In memorian: Fiona; Ravager; Lestat; Phreddie; and all of those from the 1500 incident. Lest we forget.
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[QUOTE=dj_venom]As such, I'm off, nice talking with you Fiona.
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What's awesome about this phrase is how true it is, for the two are often one in the same with you Fiona. Not that that's a bad thing (I believe I've heartily expressed my sentiments otherwise on numerous occasions) but still... :laugh: :laugh:
*Watching Goodnight and Good Luck*
Spoiler
(arguing)
What's awesome about this phrase is how true it is, for the two are often one in the same with you Fiona. Not that that's a bad thing (I believe I've heartily expressed my sentiments otherwise on numerous occasions) but still... :laugh: :laugh:
*Watching Goodnight and Good Luck*
"Be thankful you're healthy."
"Be bitter you're not going to stay that way."
"Be glad you're even alive."
"Be furious you're going to die."
"Things could be much worse."
"They could be one hell of a lot better."
"Be bitter you're not going to stay that way."
"Be glad you're even alive."
"Be furious you're going to die."
"Things could be much worse."
"They could be one hell of a lot better."
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Well, it's always good to see someone who stands up for themselves... and other people, who judging by that last post, don't deserve it
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Besides, it's great to try and match wits with Fiona, as hard as it may be.
Besides, it's great to try and match wits with Fiona, as hard as it may be.
In memorian: Fiona; Ravager; Lestat; Phreddie; and all of those from the 1500 incident. Lest we forget.
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[QUOTE=dj_venom]Well, it's always good to see someone who stands up for themselves... and other people, who judging by that last post, don't deserve it
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Besides, it's great to try and match wits with Fiona, as hard as it may be.[/QUOTE]
I know, it's refreshing to be honest. I never get to debate things with people except here: it's healthy, it helps "keep you honest" so to speak and forces you to clarify muddled opinions on topics you hold dear.
*nods* She's smarter than I, so I have to lead her off-topic into a comfort zone of my own if I'm to stand a chance.
Hmm, the more I think on this the more I regret how it sounds: this is not an undesirable trait at all, and I didn't mean to imply everything she says prompts debate. Crap.
Sorry, let's just... Er, forget it.
Besides, it's great to try and match wits with Fiona, as hard as it may be.[/QUOTE]
I know, it's refreshing to be honest. I never get to debate things with people except here: it's healthy, it helps "keep you honest" so to speak and forces you to clarify muddled opinions on topics you hold dear.
*nods* She's smarter than I, so I have to lead her off-topic into a comfort zone of my own if I'm to stand a chance.
Hmm, the more I think on this the more I regret how it sounds: this is not an undesirable trait at all, and I didn't mean to imply everything she says prompts debate. Crap.
"Be thankful you're healthy."
"Be bitter you're not going to stay that way."
"Be glad you're even alive."
"Be furious you're going to die."
"Things could be much worse."
"They could be one hell of a lot better."
"Be bitter you're not going to stay that way."
"Be glad you're even alive."
"Be furious you're going to die."
"Things could be much worse."
"They could be one hell of a lot better."
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I'm the kind of person who debates anything. Basically, I'll argue about anything, anytime, even if it's stupid and pointless to do so. I've been raised like that
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Yeah, half the time I end up befuddled, though a quick trip to dictionary.com usually helps that :laugh: .
I hate it when something comes out completely wrong, at least it's here on a forum, where you can edit/respond to fix it... in real life, it's not that simple.
Yeah, half the time I end up befuddled, though a quick trip to dictionary.com usually helps that :laugh: .
I hate it when something comes out completely wrong, at least it's here on a forum, where you can edit/respond to fix it... in real life, it's not that simple.
In memorian: Fiona; Ravager; Lestat; Phreddie; and all of those from the 1500 incident. Lest we forget.
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[QUOTE=dj_venom]I hate it when something comes out completely wrong, at least it's here on a forum, where you can edit/respond to fix it... in real life, it's not that simple.
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I actually find making such a mistake here on the forum harder... You can apologize and explain yourself but all of that is just as easily done in person. What makes it harder is that regardless of what is said afterwards, it still sits there staring at you; in person such things are forgotten, but print is lasting. You can delete it, sure, and it may be forgotten but that just seems... Cowardly.
I actually find making such a mistake here on the forum harder... You can apologize and explain yourself but all of that is just as easily done in person. What makes it harder is that regardless of what is said afterwards, it still sits there staring at you; in person such things are forgotten, but print is lasting. You can delete it, sure, and it may be forgotten but that just seems... Cowardly.
"Be thankful you're healthy."
"Be bitter you're not going to stay that way."
"Be glad you're even alive."
"Be furious you're going to die."
"Things could be much worse."
"They could be one hell of a lot better."
"Be bitter you're not going to stay that way."
"Be glad you're even alive."
"Be furious you're going to die."
"Things could be much worse."
"They could be one hell of a lot better."
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Hmm.
I reckon it's easier to make a mistake on a forum. I'm constantly misunderstanding, or them misunderstanding me, and I'm a much more vocal person. So I often make mistakes here. But yeah, it's probably easier to fix a mistake in real life. What I meant, is that you write something down, but before you hit post, you can change it. In life, it's not often you'll spend a minute thinking about something when you are in the middle of a conversation.
I reckon it's easier to make a mistake on a forum. I'm constantly misunderstanding, or them misunderstanding me, and I'm a much more vocal person. So I often make mistakes here. But yeah, it's probably easier to fix a mistake in real life. What I meant, is that you write something down, but before you hit post, you can change it. In life, it's not often you'll spend a minute thinking about something when you are in the middle of a conversation.
In memorian: Fiona; Ravager; Lestat; Phreddie; and all of those from the 1500 incident. Lest we forget.
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[QUOTE=dj_venom]Hmm.
I reckon it's easier to make a mistake on a forum. I'm constantly misunderstanding, or them misunderstanding me, and I'm a much more vocal person. So I often make mistakes here. But yeah, it's probably easier to fix a mistake in real life. What I meant, is that you write something down, but before you hit post, you can change it. In life, it's not often you'll spend a minute thinking about something when you are in the middle of a conversation.
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Very true.
I agree that the whole effort and thought that goes into typing a post is usually an effective censor, however that also makes the mistakes that do get through all the more... Glaring.
I reckon it's easier to make a mistake on a forum. I'm constantly misunderstanding, or them misunderstanding me, and I'm a much more vocal person. So I often make mistakes here. But yeah, it's probably easier to fix a mistake in real life. What I meant, is that you write something down, but before you hit post, you can change it. In life, it's not often you'll spend a minute thinking about something when you are in the middle of a conversation.
Very true.
I agree that the whole effort and thought that goes into typing a post is usually an effective censor, however that also makes the mistakes that do get through all the more... Glaring.
"Be thankful you're healthy."
"Be bitter you're not going to stay that way."
"Be glad you're even alive."
"Be furious you're going to die."
"Things could be much worse."
"They could be one hell of a lot better."
"Be bitter you're not going to stay that way."
"Be glad you're even alive."
"Be furious you're going to die."
"Things could be much worse."
"They could be one hell of a lot better."
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True.
Ahh well, the best thing about this place, is that most people can be rational, and accept things. So if you are to offend someone, they are usually willing to talk about it, and get it sorted, rather than staying permanetly angry.
So at least that's good here.
Ahh well, the best thing about this place, is that most people can be rational, and accept things. So if you are to offend someone, they are usually willing to talk about it, and get it sorted, rather than staying permanetly angry.
So at least that's good here.
In memorian: Fiona; Ravager; Lestat; Phreddie; and all of those from the 1500 incident. Lest we forget.
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[QUOTE=dj_venom]Ahh well, the best thing about this place, is that most people can be rational, and accept things. So if you are to offend someone, they are usually willing to talk about it, and get it sorted, rather than staying permanetly angry.[/QUOTE]
I'd say the best thing about SYM is that it's the most satisfying waste of time to be had anywhere.
... But you're right. That's good stuff too.
I'd say the best thing about SYM is that it's the most satisfying waste of time to be had anywhere.
... But you're right. That's good stuff too.
"Be thankful you're healthy."
"Be bitter you're not going to stay that way."
"Be glad you're even alive."
"Be furious you're going to die."
"Things could be much worse."
"They could be one hell of a lot better."
"Be bitter you're not going to stay that way."
"Be glad you're even alive."
"Be furious you're going to die."
"Things could be much worse."
"They could be one hell of a lot better."
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