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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:03 pm
by dragon wench
[QUOTE=Darzog]What I've found to help a lot is when you first start jogging, take one puff from an emergency inhalor about 10-15 minutes before you run. That will open your lungs and will keep you from having an attack most times. Then as you get more used to it you can stop taking the inhalor before the run since your lungs have been beaten into shape by then.
That helped me when I started jogging with my dogs in the morning.[/QUOTE]
Hmm.. I'll bear that in mind. On and off I consider running, so that is helpful information. Right now, I manage to keep myself symptom free by taking one inhalation of pulmicort (preventative steroid) every night, and I almost never need my emergency puffer. So, if I do begin running, I may need to experiment a bit with dosages. I do my best to take the minimum amount of drugs.
[QUOTE=Aramant]Pasta and rice are cheap...[/QUOTE]
We eat loads of pasta already, probably too much
Rice is okay, depending on the meal and the type of rice. I really like Arborio rice in risotto, for example.
As a rule though, I prefer pasta...
... we eat pasta about three times a week because it is cheap, easy and tastes good.

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:03 pm
by Magrus
[QUOTE=Aramant]I just hate the texture. I'm definitely a texture eater.[/QUOTE]
Me too, I make my rice somewhat crispy in fact. I don't enjoy most mushy things. Ewwww...
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:03 pm
by Juniper
[QUOTE=Magrus]Bye bye Juni....have fun with your friend![/QUOTE]
Merci! I will!

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:06 pm
by Aramant
[QUOTE=Magrus]Me too, I make my rice somewhat crispy in fact. I don't enjoy most mushy things. Ewwww...[/QUOTE]
My complaint is actually the feeling of all those little bits.
Heh... <naive> I prefer one big solid thing in my mouth! </naive>
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:07 pm
by Magrus
[QUOTE=Aramant]My complaint is actually the feeling of all those little bits.
Heh... <naive> I prefer one big solid thing in my mouth! </naive>[/QUOTE]
I'm not drunk enough for this crap. :laugh:
The girl broke out the french talk.

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:09 pm
by Aramant
[QUOTE=Magrus]I'm not drunk enough for this crap. :laugh:
The girl broke out the french talk.

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I'll be getting into the wine soon.
French?! Ewwies! Je ne veux pas etre sur ton penu! Ne le mettez pas dans ma oreille!
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:10 pm
by Darzog
[QUOTE=dragon wench]Right now, I manage to keep myself symptom free by taking one inhalation of pulmicort (preventative steroid) every night[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the preventive inhalors help bunches. You might look into something other than steroidal inhalors though, I've heard lots of bad things about chronic use of them (not to mention the impact to your immune system when you start/stop use). I've been told that steroidal inhalors can cause scarring on your lungs (think about stretch marks). I used to take AdVair (like a combination of Serevent and Flovent) which has components to act as a preventive inhalor and help heal damage to your lungs all together.
Night to everyone that was leaving.
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:12 pm
by Aramant
I used to be on beclovent and ventalin, but my asthma went into remission long ago. When I was little (5 years and younger) I had to have a respirator, though, and I was hospitalized a couple of times due to severe attacks. Apparently one time I almost died. My mom thinks my small stature is due to all the steroids that were pumping through my system when I was little.
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:13 pm
by Darzog
[QUOTE=Aramant]Je ne veux pas etre sur ton penu! Ne le mettez pas dans ma orielle![/QUOTE]
ROFL!!!!!! This is what babelfish made of that:
[quote="babelfish]I do not want to be on your penu! Do not put it in my orielle![/quote"]
The two words I needed and it skipped them!!!!

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:14 pm
by Aramant
[QUOTE=Darzog]ROFL!!!!!! This is what babelfish made of that:
The two words I needed and it skipped them!!!!

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I probably mispelled the latter (supposed to be "ear"), and the former is slang for something that would have been censored.
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:14 pm
by Magrus
[QUOTE=Aramant]I'll be getting into the wine soon.[/QUOTE]
I've broken into the vodka long since.
My asthma only acts up from exertion in extreme weather conditions and and extreme physical activity. I haven't bothered to get a new inhaler since the 90's however.
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:18 pm
by Aramant
[QUOTE=Magrus]My asthma only acts up from exertion in extreme weather conditions and and extreme physical activity.[/QUOTE]
I think my windedness is the norm for someone in my shape. One thing I've noticed, though, is that I have a very irregular breathing rhythm. Sometimes I notice I haven't inhaled for a few seconds, or every so often I'll need to take a deep breath, or sometimes I get into a flow of short, shallow breaths. Pretty weird.
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:28 pm
by Magrus
I get like that when I do too much at once. It's more the precurser to an asthma attack though. I notice I haven't taken a breath in a while, try to, and can't. Then I have to force myself to stay calm and slow breath.
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:30 pm
by Aramant
For me, it's just the norm. I breathe randomly. When I stop and focus on breathing evenly, I get light-headed.
Incidentally, my dad had athsma for a while, and now he has sleep apnea. Go figure.
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:42 pm
by dragon wench
[QUOTE=Darzog]Yeah, the preventive inhalors help bunches. You might look into something other than steroidal inhalors though, I've heard lots of bad things about chronic use of them (not to mention the impact to your immune system when you start/stop use). I've been told that steroidal inhalors can cause scarring on your lungs (think about stretch marks). I used to take AdVair (like a combination of Serevent and Flovent) which has components to act as a preventive inhalor and help heal damage to your lungs all together.[/QUOTE]
*sigh* Yes.. I do need to explore that further. Though, if I use something other than a steroidal inhaler I will need to cut my use of it slowly, while increasing the other. I'd like to find something naturopathic, if possible.
I also used to suffer very badly from eczema, and I tried cutting the cortisone cream cold turkey... the results were disastrous... they had to hospitalise me and give me massive dosages of internal cortisone and antibiotics. Once out of the hospital though, I very slowly began weaning myself off of the steroids, while gradually increasing my daily dosage of more natural medications. Now.. you wouldn't know I had skin problems, and I only use steroid creams once in a blue moon.
Damned doctors and the war between conventional physicians and naturopathic doctors. I have found a combined approach works best. It is the patient who suffers when healers don't work together.
Anyway, I am hoping to find a good naturopath in town sometime soon as it is, so hopefully I can start looking at ridding myself entirely of steroids
[QUOTE=Aramant]I used to be on beclovent and ventalin, but my asthma went into remission long ago. When I was little (5 years and younger) I had to have a respirator, though, and I was hospitalized a couple of times due to severe attacks. Apparently one time I almost died. My mom thinks my small stature is due to all the steroids that were pumping through my system when I was little.[/QUOTE]
It wouldn't surprise me if the steroids had an effect on your stature...
Thankfully, treatments are slowly changing across the board. It seems the medical profession has finally realised that pumping people full of things like antibiotics and steroids causes far more harm than good...
[QUOTE=Magrus] I get like that when I do too much at once. It's more the precurser to an asthma attack though. I notice I haven't taken a breath in a while, try to, and can't. Then I have to force myself to stay calm and slow breath.[/QUOTE]
I find coffee can help with that as well, since it causes an adrenalin rush which causes the breathing passages to open. Though... I'm trying to cut back on coffee these days because it is an appetite suppressant, and I don't really need the extra jitters it can cause.
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:47 pm
by Ravager
I have asthma and eczema too...the drigs I was given are Ventolin/Salbutamol (I think it's salbutamol now anyway), Becotide (that's a steroid, though I don't need it much) and Eumovate for my Eczema.
Both conditions are a lot calmer than they used to be though and I've been fortunate never to have an asthma attack, though it was quite bad when I was very young.
These days I hardly need the inhalers (especially the Becotide), unless I start to wheeze, then I take the Salbutamol (within the once/4 hours limit of course).
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:49 pm
by Aramant
Funny, the coincidence of asthma and eczema. I don't have eczema myself, but my sister does, and we're pretty much the same person.
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:51 pm
by Ravager
Stress seemed to be affecting my eczema problems, when I had trouble with bullying when I was younger it was quite a bit worse than it is now, though it is supposed to improve with age generally anyway.
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:52 pm
by dragon wench
@Rav,
I know that treatments for eczema are extremely subjective and that people respond very individually to them...
That being said, if it is any use to you, I found that taking Evening Primrose Oil and Lecithin capsules internally helped an incredible amount in clearing up my skin. Evening Primrose works as an anti-inflammatory, and the oil makes your skin produce its own oils which helps the dryness a lot.
Lecithin also encourages oil production.
Just wanted to mention it, anyway
EDIT
asthma and eczema are genetically linked apparently...
Yeah... stress is a huge impact on both.. and it is a vicious cycle... because as your health gets worse... you get more stressed...
And if the bullying involves verbal abuse about your skin... it is even worse...

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:52 pm
by Darzog
[QUOTE=dragon wench]Anyway, I am hoping to find a good naturopath in town sometime soon as it is, so hopefully I can start looking at ridding myself entirely of steroids

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Well the reason I said I used to take AdVair is I've been seeing an acupuncturist and she's gotten me off prescriptions for athsma and allergies. I take a specific herb for asthma, I'll check the name when I get home, maybe you can give that a shot and see if it helps at all.