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Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 12:38 pm
by Anatres
I just love conspiracy theories (especially when there is a grain of truth to them.... ;) ).

Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 12:38 pm
by hermetic
Oh man! Crazy CIA talk! This is great!

I doubt the CIA ever left Afghanistan at all. The country is still the world's number one producer of opiates. The CIA made its fame and fortune from the drug industry and the prohibition that has been placed on it. They're very far from being the good guys. And now that the Bush dynasty is back in power, the CIA's influence is back in the administration.

The Taliban seeks to create the world's first museum-state. That's my theory. Their big brains know full well that all-out conflict against the globalists will lead to disaster. So they're using the world's own policy of cultural independence + global unity, except with all those human rights removed. They'll be like the Quakers soon, living in the mediaeval world, and there'll be nothing we can do about it because our politically correct tripe will allow it. Hey maybe they'll open their borders to mass tourism- "Come visit beautiful Afghanistan! Come marvel at our lack of televisions and computers, our lack of progress and human rights. Authentic public executions! And for all you heroin addicts out there in the west, here there's an endless supply!"

Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 1:51 pm
by fable
Actually, the Quakers are fairly progressive when it comes to technology--believe it or not, Richard Nixon was a Quaker. (Not, admittedly, an unflawed one, or an unflawed anything, however...) You may be thinking of Mennonites, who are often confused with Quakers, and have a pretty similar background. There's a large community encompassing both of 'em about two hours from here; my sister and her family live in the same general area. Mennonites are still pretty strict about what color and style clothes can be worn, the lack of makeup, the use of a buggy instead of a car, etc. Even "liberal" Mennonites (an oxymoron, I know) only use black cars, and black suits.

They really don't fit the image of the Taliban, however: they're a pretty non-violent bunch of people. But like the Mormons, if you don't fit in, you're completely outside the culture, and you might as well leave. You'll find it hard to get friends, move up in your job, etc.

I'm inclined to think the Taliban are more like America's Southern Baptists, especially since the moderates were forced out of the church. They believe the rest of the world is lost to hell, and they will do anything within the law to save everyone else. Since the law is a nuisance, they will do everything they can to change the law. They are very, very scary. I've heard some true horror stories, well-researched, about some of their activities. :(

Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 1:59 pm
by vixen
Typical. You mention something slightly war-based and Grunt dives in.

You mention pilaf and DP tries to serve it on a plate.

You mention something political and I don't understand... :rolleyes:

Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 7:49 pm
by fable
@Vix, what don't you understand? :)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2001 10:43 am
by hermetic
Yeah Taliban Pilaf is pretty spicy.

What I meant by comparing to the Quakers (Mennonites, Quakers, same dif, a bunch of wagoneers) was that they live independently without the pressures of the modern world and modern folks go to marvel at their primitive lifestyle. Afghanistan will be the same if they succeed and form a fully-mediaevalized nation.

As for the atrocity theyre committing, branding Hindus (heh), well I think it'll be something that just slips out of the limelight once its journalistic value is through. We only take up arms against those things the establishment reminds us of, we dont think for ourselves. Groups like Amnesty Int'l ought to get up off their asses and spread the word on primetime TV if the news doesnt bother with Afghanistan. I'm just being a conspiracy theorist here, but isnt odd when ongoing issues just drop out of the news? The branding Hindus thing was what, Tuesday's news?

Posted: Fri May 25, 2001 10:48 am
by vixen
Originally posted by fable:
<STRONG>@Vix, what don't you understand? :) </STRONG>
Well, maybe its not a lack of understanding, just a lack of knowledge of the subject...

Posted: Fri May 25, 2001 11:10 am
by Weasel
Originally posted by hermetic:
<STRONG>I'm just being a conspiracy theorist here, but isnt odd when ongoing issues just drop out of the news? The branding Hindus thing was what, Tuesday's news?</STRONG>
Yes I know what you mean...News of the Day...an intern gose missing....just how many people go missing everyday...a lot but you don't see MSNBC or CNN covering them. They show what they think draws a crowd. If the lose a point in the rates that day....bye bye topic.