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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2001 11:23 am
by Darkpoet
Originally posted by fable:
<STRONG>Surely there's nothing neutral (which I associate with Limbo) in being carded by somebody dressed up to look like a Klingon, or being introduced to "my husband, an accountant" with a cardboard magic wand and cotton, Gandalf(tm) beard.

Well, there is admittedly one thing worse. Being stuck in a city full of mimes. :mad: </STRONG>

Mimes?!?!?! Shotgun would solve that problem. :D

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2001 11:25 am
by fable
Originally posted by Darkpoet:
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Mimes?!?!?! Shotgun would solve that problem. :D </STRONG>
I take it you've never witnessed a mime donning an invisible bullet-proof suit. I don't say that would work. I only say that it would kill the assassin before the first bullet could be fired. :(

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2001 11:27 am
by Recoba
IMHO Good story - (Edit to make sense) The additional information (just look at the end of Return of the King) to the books as well as the story itself makes them very good pieces of literature.

It is worthy of a :)

[ 11-19-2001: Message edited by: Recoba ]

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2001 11:31 am
by fable
Originally posted by Recoba:
<STRONG>IMHO Good story - the research and background (just look at the end of Return of the King) to the books as well as the story itself makes them very good pieces of literature. </STRONG>
Okay, quick question, genuinely out of curiosity: what is there at the end of the RotK that shows excellent research and background? :)

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2001 11:35 am
by Recoba
@fable - okay, maybe not the correct words to use there but you know what I mean, his additional information at the end to go with the story.

Should have thought of my words more carefully. :confused:

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2001 11:41 am
by fable
Originally posted by Recoba:
<STRONG>@fable - okay, maybe not the correct words to use there but you know what I mean, his additional information at the end to go with the story.

Should have thought of my words more carefully. :confused: </STRONG>
Okay, gotcha now. No, I wasn't being critical, I was actually wondering what you meant. So it's really the kind of "immersion in a full universe" that you especially like.

There are quite a few good fantasy authors who offer the same thing. Check out Fletcher Pratt's The Well of the Unicorn for even greater detail, in some respects, since Pratt was regarded (still is) as a great historian, and he tried to essentially recreate the late Middle Ages in terms of a pseudo-Scandanavian fantasy work. Then, there's The Worm Ouraboros, by E.R.R. Eddison, a colleague and friend of Tolkien's: arguably a still-better use of language, but with much less structure.

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2001 11:44 am
by Recoba
@fable - Its ok, I was just re-reading my post and I found it really didn't make any sense! :D

Thanks for the info, I`ll have a look into it. I had better get back to work now! :)

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2001 2:09 pm
by Aegis
I think Tolkien was an amazine writer, but at the same time, I think Salvatore is better at what he does. Each writer has his/her own style. Tolkien wrote the LotR's more as a romancing tale that dragged you into Middle Earth, and made you feel deeply for not just the one group, but the whole world. He immersed you in the wonders of magic, and beauty of nature.

At the same time, Salavtore can do all those things, it's just he doesn't focus on them as much. His books are faster pace, and much more action, which is fine. His characters also have a feeling of being real, just like Tolkien.

Anyway, those are my most basic feelings on the two writers.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2001 8:01 pm
by C Elegans
Originally posted by Morlock:
<STRONG>Finally the question. Do you think that you liked Tolkeins books strictly because of the story? or did the fact that they have been around for a few decades and have tons of followers increase your appreatiation(sp?) of the books?</STRONG>
You left out one alternative: I didn't like them at all :D ;)

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2001 8:10 pm
by Sailor Saturn
Originally posted by C Elegans:
<STRONG>You left out one alternative: I didn't like them at all :D ;) </STRONG>
So THAT's what's wrong with you. ;) :p