What are you having for Thanksgiving dinner?

nael · Post by **nael** » Mon Nov 19, 2001 10:31 pm

Originally posted by Sailor Saturn:
I remind you all the time because it is a very important fact.

preach it sister!

fable · Post by **fable** » Mon Nov 19, 2001 10:34 pm

Originally posted by Panther Blkct:
@ Fable: *stutters* No-no-no-no butter or margine???!? Whas wrong with health problems?

Well, when you have some, get back with me. Then we can trade stories. Until then, I'll just settle for the medical problems I've already got, since almost dying sure beats the Real Thing.

Sign on a health food store: Eat here and live long.
Sign at a nearby barbeque pit: Eat here and die happy.

That reminds me: do you know that medical researchers testing new circulatory equipment regularly go to Kansas City, Missouri? That's because it's called The Stroke Capital of the World. It's all that wonderful-tasting barbeque. Hard to resist when you're in a place like KC, but the results of not resisting are kinda hideous.

[ 11-19-2001: Message edited by: fable ]

Panther Blkct · Post by **Panther Blkct** » Mon Nov 19, 2001 10:40 pm

Originally posted by fable:
Well, when you have some, get back with me. Then we can trade stories. Until then, I'll just settle for the medical problems I've already got, since almost dying sure beats the Real Thing.

I'll let you know if I ever get there, but according to my friends I'm more likely to die of ammonia, get killed in a car accident (with the people who drive me around this is a big possibility) or breaking my neck tearing around and climbing and stuff. But if I live long enough to get health problems I'll be sure to get back to you.

Originally posted by fable:

That reminds me: do you know that medical researchers testing new circulatory equipment regularly go to Kansas City, Missouri? That's because it's called The Stroke Capital of the World. It's all that wonderful-tasting barbeque. Hard to resist when you're in a place like KC, but the results of not resisting are kinda hideous.

Well, that's news, I'll be sure to avoid Kansas City then, that's ok, There plenty of great BBQ places 'round here...

...or did I miss your point?

Sailor Saturn · Post by **Sailor Saturn** » Mon Nov 19, 2001 10:41 pm

Originally posted by fable:
almost dying sure beats the Real Thing.

Almost dying is better than Coca-Cola?

[QB]That reminds me: do you know that medical researchers testing new circulatory equipment regularly go to Kansas City, Missouri? That's because it's called The Stroke Capital of the World. It's all that wonderful-tasting barbeque. Hard to resist when you're in a place like KC, but the results of not resisting are kinda hideous.

Obviously, there is something wrong with their barbeque. Someone needs to introduce them Missourians to some Texas barbeque.

nael · Post by **nael** » Mon Nov 19, 2001 10:47 pm

places like st. louis, kansas city, and nashville all have good BBQ, but it focuses on pork, texas revolves around beef. you will not find good brisket out there, but plenty of baby back ribs

Gwalchmai · Post by **Gwalchmai** » Mon Nov 19, 2001 10:54 pm

Originally posted by fable:
It's called a sweet dumpling squash, and it's very tasty. We do have stuffing, but it's healthy stuffing: no butter or margarine (we don't even have either item in our house), and we avoid salt. Hell, I'm a chronic severe asthmatic: you thing I need other health problems on top of that?

Dumpling squash? I'll have to look for it. It sounds good. I have a hard time avoiding butter, but I'm with you on the salt. I almost never salt my food - why bother when there are so many other great spices out there? I never understand those people (read: my father-in-law) who dump salt all over their food before even tasting it. Of course, the mid-west style of cooking he's used to is kinda bland. That reminds me: I'm going to try to convince my wife not to make her mother's hominy casserole this year. Its semi-palatable for the first two bites, but then its pretty hard to choke down....

My brother is an asthmatic, but not too severe. He managed to survive a career as a cyclist and is currently an avid rock climber. Cat dander always really sets off his allergies. But the presence of my wife’s cats never stopped him from showing up unannounced at dinnertime....

Sailor Saturn · Post by **Sailor Saturn** » Mon Nov 19, 2001 11:03 pm

Originally posted by Gwalchmai:
but I'm with you on the salt. I almost never salt my food - why bother when there are so many other great spices out there? I never understand those people (read: my father-in-law) who dump salt all over their food before even tasting it. Of course, the mid-west style of cooking he's used to is kinda bland. That reminds me: I'm going to try to convince my wife not to make her mother's hominy casserole this year. Its semi-palatable for the first two bites, but then its pretty hard to choke down....

There are plenty of other good spices, but sometimes the only one within reach is salt. About the only things I salt are green beans and tortilla chips. But I don't think I really have to worry about having too much salt intake since my blood pressure is naturally a little below the range that's considered "what your blood pressure should be." *is not 100% sure of what all that means, mainly just knows that her blood pressure is always a little low*

Oh, one really good seasoning is Garlic Salt!

Sailor Saturn · Post by **Sailor Saturn** » Mon Nov 19, 2001 11:05 pm

Originally posted by nael:
places like st. louis, kansas city, and nashville all have good BBQ, but it focuses on pork, texas revolves around beef. you will not find good brisket out there, but plenty of baby back ribs

I love ribs, but I've had one too many pork chops and am now no longer interested in pork. I wish my mom would make some beef tamales for Thanksgiving.

CM · Post by CM » Mon Nov 19, 2001 11:15 pm

What i have every night!
PIZZA!

fable · Post by **fable** » Mon Nov 19, 2001 11:20 pm

My brother is an asthmatic, but not too severe. He managed to survive a career as a cyclist and is currently an avid rock climber.

Whoa. If he can do those things, his asthma is probably of the adult kind, triggered by occasional exposure. The chronic kind usually first occurs in infancy, and it's a permanant condition. Sure wish I could be a cyclist! Stuff like that always sounds like fun.

According to my wife, the dumpling squash is healthier than a yam, because it's got less calories and more vitamins. Plus, I know from recent experience that it tastes just like a yam. it also looks so good in its strangely ridged, yellow and green original shape that I may adopt it as a pet, and we'll do without it for Thanksgiving.

Sailor Saturn · Post by **Sailor Saturn** » Mon Nov 19, 2001 11:39 pm

Originally posted by fable:
it also looks so good in its strangely ridged, yellow and green original shape that I may adopt it as a pet, and we'll do without it for Thanksgiving.

Now, you're scaring me, fable. Wait, scratch that, you've always scared me. You're scaring me more than normally fable.

Gwalchmai · Post by **Gwalchmai** » Mon Nov 19, 2001 11:39 pm

Fable: My brother developed his asthma when he was about five years old, coincidentally immediately following a bout with pneumonia. A few years of shots controlled much of his allergies, and an inhaler for the attacks. He wasn’t allowed to use the inhaler during races, but as he has grown older, his asthma doesn’t seem to be an issue. I don’t even think he owns an inhaler anymore. Or if he does, its probably expired.

I forgot desert! Pumpkin pie is good, but only when made fresh from real pumpkin (not canned). Store-bought pie is never as good. Must use whipped cream. But better yet, I like pumpkin cheesecake! Yum!

fable · Post by **fable** » Mon Nov 19, 2001 11:57 pm

Originally posted by Gwalchmai:
Fable: My brother developed his asthma when he was about five years old, coincidentally immediately following a bout with pneumonia. A few years of shots controlled much of his allergies, and an inhaler for the attacks. He wasn’t allowed to use the inhaler during races, but as he has grown older, his asthma doesn’t seem to be an issue. I don’t even think he owns an inhaler anymore. Or if he does, its probably expired.

@Gwalch, it sounds more like a related respiratory condition than true asthma--and there's no coincidence about it coming on after pneumonia. It may also be that it *was* asthma, triggered after his respiratory system became sensitzed because of pneumonia. However, that kind of asthma, with proper treatment, can vanish pretty quickly. My nephew acquired it after a bout of double pneumonia at the age of three, but very quick application of modern medical therapies (mostly epinephrine based) got rid of it.

When I was growing up, we had no inhalers--just a pill called Tylenol, which was 25% phenobarbitol. Barbituates!

It took 45 minutes of hell to work, and then it was a speeding high for two hours as the asthmatic symptoms vanished, followed by an hour of intense lethargy and depression. And my physician not only prescribed them for the attacks, but as a preventative at night, before bed. Sheesh.

Thank goodness for modern medicine. About a hundred asthmatics still die each year, but the number of people who come down with the disease in the US and Europe, at least, is decreasing. Prompt and effective treatment, combined with a sympathetic understanding of the condition is finally making inroads.

I point this out when any of my more radicalized "back to earth" friends get up another discussion about how we should all forego modern industrial benefits and simply return to a more pristine, earlier condition of existence. (Not that such a condition ever existed...) If it weren't for the benefits of modern civilization, many diseases wouldn't be conquered today, and many people would not be rejoicing in another sunrise.

Gwalchmai · Post by **Gwalchmai** » Tue Nov 20, 2001 12:18 am

Originally posted by fable:
@Gwalch, it sounds more like a related respiratory condition than true asthma--and there's no coincidence about it coming on after pneumonia. It may also be that it *was* asthma, triggered after his respiratory system became sensitized because of pneumonia. However, that kind of asthma, with proper treatment, can vanish pretty quickly. My nephew acquired it after a bout of double pneumonia at the age of three, but very quick application of modern medical therapies (mostly epinephrine based) got rid of it.

The latter option sounds more like it, though it took my brother a couple of decades to get to the point he is at now. The doctors always called it asthma, and I remember hearing him have attacks as a kid with the raspy breathing and all. He still acknowledges that he could still have an asthma attack, but I would guess that he would have some early warning signs, and would take it easy, or find an inhaler before things got critical. His allergies are the things that really set him off. Certainly, he was never as bad off as you were/are.

I point this out when any of my more radicalized "back to earth" friends get up another discussion about how we should all forego modern industrial benefits and simply return to a more pristine, earlier condition of existence. (Not that such a condition ever existed...) If it weren't for the benefits of modern civilization, many diseases wouldn't be conquered today, and many people would not be rejoicing in another sunrise.

I agree. The benefits of modern medicine are wonderful indeed. I'm just wary of some of the doctors.

In addition (as I was going to point out in another thread), most humans living in industrialized nations are currently mal-adapted to the rigors of the hunting/gathering way of life. So plopping all of us into a 'pristine' world would be a good way to kill most of us off.

Bloodstalker · Post by **Bloodstalker** » Tue Nov 20, 2001 9:37 am

The exact thing I have had everyday for the last 10 years, Turkey.

I get to eat AND drink it on Thanksgiving.

Ned Flanders · Post by **Ned Flanders** » Tue Nov 20, 2001 10:49 am

by bloodstalker
I get to eat AND drink it on Thanksgiving.

Drinking turkey. Come now, the only meat proper for blenders is frogs.

THE JAKER · Post by **THE JAKER** » Tue Nov 20, 2001 10:52 am

Stalker you're weird

I'm going to be doing what I always do for Thanksgiving, going over to my parent's place and help them clean up their messy house, then dinner!

My mom always makes the same things: turkey, stuffing (i think in carcass & in pan method), candied yams, green beans or broccoli for touch of greenery, gravy, waldorf salad, cranberry salad with pineapple, and cranberry sauce.

My dad makes mashed potatoes, pumpkin pie and apricot pie, and let me tell you he makes good pies.

Bloodstalker · Post by **Bloodstalker** » Tue Nov 20, 2001 10:55 am

Don't hate me because I'm a drunk.

Hate me because I am a social reject, incapable of conforming to societies standards and retain my individualism. Wait, that's a good thing. never mind

Vivien · Post by **Vivien** » Tue Nov 20, 2001 11:23 am

I'm going to my parents house for Thanksgiving

Turkey, grandmothers stuffing, broccoli (a bit of parmesan cheese and salt, nothing else), mashed potatoes, gravy, pumpkin pie, rolls the usual

I wish Mom would let me make Garlic Mashed potatoes, (with butter and whipped cream and real garlic as we're not healthy), but no, that doesn't go well with gravy.

Gwalchmai · Post by **Gwalchmai** » Tue Nov 20, 2001 12:22 pm

Originally posted by Vivien:
I'm going to my parents house for Thanksgiving

Turkey, grandmothers stuffing, broccoli (a bit of parmesan cheese and salt, nothing else), mashed potatoes, gravy, pumpkin pie, rolls the usual

I wish Mom would let me make Garlic Mashed potatoes, (with butter and whipped cream and real garlic as we're not healthy), but no, that doesn't go well with gravy.

Mmmmm. Garlic Mashed Potatoes.

Sounds to me like it would go great with gravy!