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Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 3:18 pm
by Noober
18 to Dim Vision is a bit silly, as is more then one point in Decrep.
Why do you have a SS, instead of the Homunculus (I assume that you can afford better since you have both an Enigma and HotO)?
Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 6:22 am
by moltovir
If you play fully twinked with traded gear and mules full of highlevel runeword armours, then yes, 18 in Dim Vision is a bit silly. However, if you play the game no-twinked, without trading and for fun instead of for becoming rich and beating Hell in 5 minutes, then no, 18 in DV isn't silly, it's more of a necessity.
Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 9:37 am
by =SK=
i was thinking of the Homunculus, but the SS has a really high blocking rate and D. Its made more for melee duels (barbs and such) but I think it helps me out. hmm..... the Hom. wouldnt be such a bad idea, more +skills!!! whats the average blocking rate/defense for one of those anyway? i dont remeber.
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 1:21 am
by Noober
[QUOTE=moltovir]18 in DV isn't silly, it's more of a necessity.[/QUOTE]
Even for a poor necro, most would call 18 DV extreme overkill. It isn't even that difficult to find +skill items (not talking about godly +skill items). You don't want too large a radius either, lest you lure too many monsters towards you once it wears off (or those who aren't affected).
[QUOTE==SK=]i was thinking of the Homunculus, but the SS has a really high blocking rate and D. Its made more for melee duels (barbs and such) but I think it helps me out. hmm..... the Hom. wouldnt be such a bad idea, more +skills!!! whats the average blocking rate/defense for one of those anyway? i dont remeber.[/QUOTE]
I don't recall the exact values (don't bother with the defence, on a Necro it will be negligable), though I do remember that you need less DEX for max block with the Homunculus then SS.
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 9:43 am
by =SK=
well i found the averages for a SS and a Homunculus....
SS-
Defense: 148
Chance to Block: 75%
Smite Damage: 12 to 34
Required Strength: 156
Required Level: 73
Indestructible
+35% Faster Block Rate
25% Increased Chance of Blocking
+3 Defense (Based on Character Level)
+30 to Strength
Cold Resist +60%
Lightning Resist +25%
Damage Reduced by 35%
Attacker Takes Lightning Damage of 10
Hom.-
Defense: 199
Chance to Block: 75%
Durability: 20
Required Strength: 58
Required Level: 42
+2 to Curses
+2 to Necromancer Skill Levels
+30% Faster Block Rate
40% Increased Chance of Blocking
+181% Enhanced Defense
+20 to Energy
Regenerate Mana 33%
All Resistances +40
+5 to Mana after each Kill
Im thinking that the Homunculus is a better choice.....now to trade my sojs..
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 12:21 pm
by moltovir
[QUOTE=Noober]Even for a poor necro, most would call 18 DV extreme overkill. It isn't even that difficult to find +skill items (not talking about godly +skill items). You don't want too large a radius either, lest you lure too many monsters towards you once it wears off (or those who aren't affected).
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The duration increases together with the radius, and most monsters will be death by the time Dim's duration is over. And I've never seen off-screen Dimmed monsters who target me when their Dim wears off. And since when does using Dim attract non-dimmed monsters to your necromancer?
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 1:26 pm
by Dottie
@SK: The blocking percentage of the stormshield is actually only 67 for a necromancer, not 75.
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 2:21 pm
by C Elegans
[QUOTE==SK=]Im thinking that the Homunculus is a better choice.....now to trade my sojs..
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I am no necro player and I have hardly played this ladder, but 1. I really think Homunculus is better for you that SS and 2. At the last ladder it was cheap to trade for, and quite easy to find.
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 2:42 pm
by moltovir
If you're playing a summoner, the best head is actually a +3/3 RS/SM head with the Splendor runeword. +5 to RS/SM? Yes please!
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 7:59 pm
by Noober
[QUOTE=moltovir]The duration increases together with the radius, and most monsters will be death by the time Dim's duration is over. And I've never seen off-screen Dimmed monsters who target me when their Dim wears off. And since when does using Dim attract non-dimmed monsters to your necromancer?
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:S, must be thinking of Lower Resist.
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 10:03 am
by =SK=
well its official, i traded away the stormshield to a dueling barb (figures) and got enough sojs/charms to get my homunculus. yay!!! I havnt noticed any real significant changes....other than the fact i get more skill points... having lv. 35 skeletons with lv. 35 mastery is...well......not very nice. teleport kills are nasty with the skeletons and my posion skills have a little boost. Its all good... i figured out a way to score cheap (with a summoner) kills by making a tp (tp = town portal for those who didnt know...), hostile him in town and tp, make the person go in the tp (having a host of skeletons already summoned and standing right in the way of the portal) and watch as all the summoned units hit the person at once doing over 100k
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you can aslo do this in trading games, tp into a pack of hell monsters and watch them die instantly.....heheh...you can aslo backstab players this way by making a tp and say "hey lets trade here" or "unique items here.." and hostiling them when they go into it, only they find themselves surrounred by summoned monsters that do 2 k each. these are VERY UNDERHANDED tactics and should never be used beacuse blizzard moderators will kick your @$$!!!! and ban your account for 30 days (happened to me)....I dont know why i just ranted about it. anyway.......
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 11:32 am
by moltovir
Whoa. You must be really proud of yourself now.
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 4:57 pm
by =SK=
that was the past......
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Hell, you guys know what battlenet is like! The most unmerciful people on the planet play these games..... they are ecspecially evil in SC, but thats a different story.....
moltovir, what kind of items is your summoner equipped with? Im mostly curious to what kind of wand you have since i dont use wands....
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 5:39 pm
by Dottie
[QUOTE==SK=]that was the past......
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Hell, you guys know what battlenet is like! The most unmerciful people on the planet play these games..... they are ecspecially evil in SC, but thats a different story.....[/QUOTE]
You still have a choice whether you want to take part in that kind of culture or not.
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 1:26 am
by Noober
Remind me to kill you if I ever get back to playing (*cough* 1.11 *cough*) =p. I suppose you don't scam people out of items and NK at least.
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 5:16 am
by C Elegans
[QUOTE==SK=]Hell, you guys know what battlenet is like! The most unmerciful people on the planet play these games..... they are ecspecially evil in SC, but thats a different story.....[/QUOTE]
SK, I know what people are like at Bnet, and I don't like it - that's why I don't make it worse by joining that culture. I have played D2 since it was released, and do you know what? I have never ever been PK:ed and I have never, ever PK:ed somebody else. If somebody who behaves suspiciously enter an open game I play in, I quit and leave. If some immature kids come and brag about their items or ask me this tiresom "WYG?" or "itz plz, plz, plz", I leave the game. And I would never dream of PK:ing anyone else, especially not on HC. Why would I, what would be the fun of that?
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 5:58 am
by Noober
That's why you should never play Hardcore
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EDIT: Wait a second, you have never been PK'd? That is honestly quite amazing! Is it because you are too hard to kill, or because no one has had the chance?
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 6:05 am
by moltovir
If you don't play HC, then where's the challenge?
btw, I've never been PK'd too
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 6:06 am
by Noober
I find it rather frustrating to PvP on hardcore though
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. Unless of course you play Ironman games
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 7:12 am
by C Elegans
[QUOTE=Noober]Wait a second, you have never been PK'd? That is honestly quite amazing! Is it because you are too hard to kill, or because no one has had the chance?[/QUOTE]
It's because I am paranoid and leave the game if I don't like how the other people behave. I had happened that people have tried to PK my sorcs, by they are not easily killed so nobody succeeded yet. When someone try to PK me, I just leave the game.