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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:44 am
by Ethelle
nocturn wrote:Did he come from a vial? Also, did you get a note when you killed him that concluded with six fingertips?
I don't mean to interrupt, but these Revenants... is this a specific quest? I only met one so far, the one in the Circle Tower, but I had to leave it alone because I couldn't defeat him even though I tried three times. Do these Revenants have any weaknesses at all? Or do I have to stack up on health poultices and sit down for an hour of bashing before the Revenant finally falls?

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:47 am
by GawainBS
No, not a specific quest, just related to each other.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:00 pm
by nocturn
I have done a lot of street-travelling in Denerim, but I never got the Revenant encounter. Maybe it's random, but are you sure you weren't talking about
Spoiler
Gaxkhang from the Unbound quest
?

About the Reventants, they are not part of a quest as far as I know, but I guess if you find and slay all of them (the ones that come from the black vials) maybe you get a completed quest journal entry (this occurs often in DA:O).
I don't know any particular strategy to defeat them. Try freezing them and using DPS spells. An archer could be useful to minimize damage taken, since they sweep their swords, hittng nearby party members. Another trick I used at some point was to move the mage behind an obstacle (like a table). That way, when the Revenant tries to telekinetically pull her towards him, she will get stuck on the obstacle and avoid the following attack.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:46 pm
by mr_sir
nocturn wrote:I have done a lot of street-travelling in Denerim, but I never got the Revenant encounter. Maybe it's random, but are you sure you weren't talking about
Spoiler
Gaxkhang from the Unbound quest
?
No, that is a different encounter - in one of the Denerim places, there is a vial containing a revenant. I can't remember if it is a random encounter or an area triggered by a side quest.

I found all six revenants from the codex but you do not receive anything or get a completed quest for doing so. The only revenants I found that have a reward as a result are the ones that drop the various pieces of the Juggernaut armour. I've read somewhere that you can get a shield for this too but I've never found the revenant that drops it so maybe I missed one?

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:50 pm
by GawainBS
One of the six Revenants is definitly, positively in Denerim, a random encounter, and I'm not mixing anything up. :) It has the vial, the scrap of paper with fingerprints, everything.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:46 pm
by Scottg
GawainBS wrote:One of the six Revenants is definitly, positively in Denerim, a random encounter, and I'm not mixing anything up. :) It has the vial, the scrap of paper with fingerprints, everything.
I don't think it's random either. It's has happened *exactly* the same for me (sequence-wise) on each occasion. Damned if I can remember the sequence however.

I will note that it occurred while "cleaning-out" the bandits for the Denerim (market) Captain quest. I *think* it was after returning from the 2nd bandit hold-out. Up near the door and barrels on the stair landing. You actually enter that "map" from the stair landing door and all *seems* peaceful. Of course not only do you have the Revenant as an option, but you must also get through bandits who drop a gate on you and "surprise" attack on the exit "door" (..that is traditionally the entrance door to these "maps"). IF the "surprise" bandit attack happens with the gate closing, then at least you'll know that you need to go back up to the landing to battle the Revenant (..if you want to complete this quest). I could be wrong, but I don't think you can get back to this map, it's either do or don't at the time you come across it.

It's a hell of a battle for a low-level party, though nothing like the optional Juggernaut armor BOOTS battle.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:52 pm
by Scottg
Selina wrote:Since you speak of three dead drops..
Speaking of, once you complete it - does it take-out any useful people, like merchants who might have goods you want? (I ask this because I haven't finished this quest yet on the count of paranoia.) :p

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:30 am
by nocturn
Scottg wrote:I don't think it's random either. It's has happened *exactly* the same for me (sequence-wise) on each occasion. Damned if I can remember the sequence however.

I will note that it occurred while "cleaning-out" the bandits for the Denerim (market) Captain quest. I *think* it was after returning from the 2nd bandit hold-out. Up near the door and barrels on the stair landing. You actually enter that "map" from the stair landing door and all *seems* peaceful. Of course not only do you have the Revenant as an option, but you must also get through bandits who drop a gate on you and "surprise" attack on the exit "door" (..that is traditionally the entrance door to these "maps"). IF the "surprise" bandit attack happens with the gate closing, then at least you'll know that you need to go back up to the landing to battle the Revenant (..if you want to complete this quest). I could be wrong, but I don't think you can get back to this map, it's either do or don't at the time you come across it.

It's a hell of a battle for a low-level party, though nothing like the optional Juggernaut armor BOOTS battle.
I remember the encounter you speak of but I guess I missed the Revenant... :( Weird that you can deal with him only once though, since random encounters will "stay on hold" until you play them through.
Scottg wrote:Speaking of, once you complete it - does it take-out any useful people, like merchants who might have goods you want? (I ask this because I haven't finished this quest yet on the count of paranoia.) :p
Unfortunately I had already finished the Lansmeet by that point, so the drop at Redcliffe was not possible. I went on to the subsequent quest though and
Spoiler
killed 'K'
which also terminated the dead drops quest.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:56 pm
by mr_sir
nocturn wrote:I remember the encounter you speak of but I guess I missed the Revenant... :( Weird that you can deal with him only once though, since random encounters will "stay on hold" until you play them through.
Not really seeing as its not a random encounter ... it is an encounter triggered as part of a side quest in Denerim. The actual encounter is part of that quest and there are many areas in the game that are no longer available once the quest relating to them has been completed.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:39 pm
by kozeph
I am in need of help with three things

first after dealing with the golems in the anvil of the void part i found a tablet with the names of every golem oghrem suggestet that i take it to the shaper. i cant seem to find this dude u.u

second i found parts of the a blade "topsider" i have found two parts one in a darkspawn, the other in brankas former camp that its inhabbit by ruck i think i cant quiet remember. anyone knows where the third part of the blade is?

third i found a door lock in the ruins in the forest where the werewolf live, there is a small pond of water, and an altar i tried several things with it (it even spawn a pair of shades) anyone knows the right combination?

note: i dont know if you know i found a revenant in the royal palace in orzimar

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:35 pm
by kozeph
scratch the first one just found the sneaky little dwarf

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:52 pm
by Selina
Topsiders Honor:
The three parts are "hidden" along the deep roads.

First is on a regular darkspawn in the southern parts of Caridins Cross.

Second is in Rucks Cave in Orthan Thaig.

Third is on a ancient darkspawn (Boss) in the dead trenches.

Once you collected all three parts you can reform the blade by visiting the topsiders grave which is in Orthan Thaig IIRC.

Elven ritual:
The door in the elven ruins is opened by performing a certain ritual. Can't remember it all on the top of my mind but you can find a tablet in room on the right side of that big chamber where you encountered the ghost boy and all those undead.

Inspect the tablet, check on the codex entry and you should be fine.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:26 pm
by kozeph
strange i encountered the ancient darkspawn and he drop several things but no part of the topsider D:

i guess i should retrace my steps and see i find it

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:21 am
by Nightmare
kozeph wrote:strange i encountered the ancient darkspawn and he drop several things but no part of the topsider D:

i guess i should retrace my steps and see i find it
I can't remember if it's loot from an enemy or if it's in a container, but the third piece IS somewhere in the dead trenches.

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:58 am
by nocturn
I think the Ancient Darkspawn is the one who drops the blade. Had a hard time finding him myself...

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:54 pm
by Revans mask
I dont want to sound like a perv but. Can your avatar have sex and possibly have children?

Can you see your avatar making chemistry with his or her lover?

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:11 pm
by fable
Revans mask wrote:I dont want to sound like a perv but. Can your avatar have sex and possibly have children?
No.
Can you see your avatar making chemistry with his or her lover?
No.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:32 pm
by GawainBS
Revans mask wrote: Can you see your avatar making chemistry with his or her lover?
The closest thing is Herbalism, I'm afraid.

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:33 pm
by Revans mask
Nasty looking boss battles in Orgins?

What is the most nasty looking boss fight in the game? Name your boss.

For my vote I would have to say the 100 titty boss fight in the Dwarf caves.

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:19 pm
by GoldDragon
Revans mask wrote:I dont want to sound like a perv but. Can your avatar have sex and possibly have children?
Yes, actually. But only in one origin, and only for males.