Assassin/Stealth Class!

[Nathxoxo]

Ideally, yes you want to take attributes that are x5, but again some are less important to you then others.

This would be my list of attribute imporance for you type of character:

1. Endurance
2. Agility
3. Luck
4. Strength
5. Speed
6. Intelligence
7. Willpower
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85. Personality (don't even waste points on this, unless you can't select anything else).


But if you have to choose between, for example, x5 Intelligence and x3 Strength.... well there's no hard answer which is better.

Ah I see, that is probably why on my old character everything like 2 shot me to death lol, I never bothered investing points into endurance as I only bothered investing in agility, speed and then some random stat regardless of the multiplier NOOB FTW !

Would you recommend leveling attributes that will give me x5 multipliers on endurance and agility then sleep when I know i'll get the x5?

Thanks!

[Ares2382]

Well I'm not big on powerleveling. I tend to just play for fun. I don't always get x5.

But it's up to you how you want to play. That's what makes Oblivion great. There are some really good tips on the Wiki page on efficient leveling techniques. Just do a search for "leveling"

[Ares2382]

We are going to disagree again, Ares! But not much

My order:

Endurance
Strength
Agility
Willpower (for speeding up magica regeneration)
Intelligence (for more magica - think of Chameleon and Invisibility)
Speed
Luck
Personality

But that is for a Stealth character. For a Mage type or a Combat type, the order would be different - but in all cases, Personality is THE least important. It gets you better reactions from people, but you can buy Charm spells that do the same thing.

Well my reason for not putting Willpower up high is because a stealth character does not need to cast in combat (except maybe paralyze). Most of his spells should be buffs... shield, chameleon, invisibility and such. So regenerating magicka is not as important as having more magicka to begin with. Now for those few times when he may need to recast some of his spells (vanilla Oblivion has annoyingly short spell durations) he can gulp a potion to restore his magicka. And between Alchemy and potion found through out the game, he should have more then enough.

Speed, well because I find sneaking annoyingly slow, until I get to Expert in sneaking and can run in sneak mode without penalty.

And I think Agility is a bit more important then Strength for an Archer since Bow damage is determined by Agility and not Strength.

And I like Luck, so I always put it at top 3

[Nathxoxo]

Ah ok mate Btw I am doing the main quest 'The Battle for Castle Kvatch' and I am near the end of it against some scamps which are barely take any damage from me, I am level 1. Would you suggest going to level up in some dungeons and then come back and try again? If so what dungeons would be worth trying at my level?

Another question, as soon as it says if you sleep you will level up, how soon do you go and sleep to level up?

Thanks once again m8.

[Nathxoxo]

I hope you keep posting in here as well.

Hehe thanks I intend to!

[Ares2382]

Ah ok mate Btw I am doing the main quest 'The Battle for Castle Kvatch' and I am near the end of it against some scamps which are barely take any damage from me, I am level 1. Would you suggest going to level up in some dungeons and then come back and try again? If so what dungeons would be worth trying at my level?

Another question, as soon as it says if you sleep you will level up, how soon do you go and sleep to level up?

Thanks once again m8.

Ah the main quest in Oblivion is probably the most annoying thing in the world. I won't spoil it for you, but you'll find out why soon enough. I try not to do it until I'm ready to do it all at once, and I generally do it much later in the game. Maybe sometime in my twenties.

As for sleeping to level up, well sleep when you can, but it's not necessary to sleep right away. Any skill ups that happen after you hit your 10th major will just be applied towards the next level.

As for which dungeon to level up at.... well it doesn't relly matter too much. Remember enemies and items in this game will level up with you. So if you're level 1, so is that scamp. If you'd do that same quest in lvl 20, you'd probably face a Deadroth (MUCH tougher then a scamp) or something scarrier.

[Nathxoxo]

Ah the main quest in Oblivion is probably the most annoying thing in the world. I won't spoil it for you, but you'll find out why soon enough. I try not to do it until I'm ready to do it all at once, and I generally do it much later in the game. Maybe sometime in my twenties.

As for sleeping to level up, well sleep when you can, but it's not necessary to sleep right away. Any skill ups that happen after you hit your 10th major will just be applied towards the next level.

As for which dungeon to level up at.... well it doesn't relly matter too much. Remember enemies and items in this game will level up with you. So if you're level 1, so is that scamp. If you'd do that same quest in lvl 20, you'd probably face a Deadroth (MUCH tougher then a scamp) or something scarrier.

Ah I see, you don't do the main quest line until level 20? Damn What do you usually do mate? I thought there was only a main quest line and dungeons

[Tricky]

Explore.

There are almost too many random dungeons and loose quests strewn around the landscape. I usually steer clear of Kavatch though, since coming their triggers the appearance of oblivion gates all over.

It pays to wait around until you're a high level character. The Sigil Stones you can farm will be that much stronger for it.

[Fljotsdale]

Tricky and Ares are right: it is much better to wait until you are higher level before you do Main Quest. And those are Stunted Scamps if you are lvl 1. Much easier than Scamps. But you don't have to deal with 'em by yourself; let the soldiers and guards take the brunt of the fighting until you get the hang of dealing with 'em.

There are several other very good questlines to follow: Join the Mages Guild and follow that Quest - it gets pretty interesting. Then there is the Fighters Guild, The Dark Brotherhood and the Thieves Guild, each of which is very good in it's own way.
Besides those, there are quite a lot of shorter quests in each of the cities, and generally investigating any Ayleid Ruins, Forts, Caves, Shrines... there's lots to do.

[Nathxoxo]

Tricky and Ares are right: it is much better to wait until you are higher level before you do Main Quest. And those are Stunted Scamps if you are lvl 1. Much easier than Scamps. But you don't have to deal with 'em by yourself; let the soldiers and guards take the brunt of the fighting until you get the hang of dealing with 'em.

There are several other very good questlines to follow: Join the Mages Guild and follow that Quest - it gets pretty interesting. Then there is the Fighters Guild, The Dark Brotherhood and the Thieves Guild, each of which is very good in it's own way.
Besides those, there are quite a lot of shorter quests in each of the cities, and generally investigating any Ayleid Ruins, Forts, Caves, Shrines... there's lots to do.

Ah ok then, I was just exploring and this farmer asked me to go get some artefact from her husband and bring it back to her, he was in a dungeon I think was quite cool and I never knew random npcs could give you little side quests like that until then lol

This game seems so big, never realised it until now ;p One thing though, is there anyway to get around faster rather than running every where?

Thanks once again for your help, its greatly appreciated

[Ares2382]

Once you've been to a place once, you can fast travel to it anytime after that. You can also fast travel to any town as well.

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You should have also received a free horse at the Priory after you spoke to the head guy. If you didn't go talk to the blacksmith who walks outside of the Priory.

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If you're pointing at an NPC and your cursor turns into a crown instead of a head, that means that person is important and will likely (but not always) have a quest to give you.

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Since you're like to use a bow, I suggest you head to Leyawiin and talk to people there until you hear about Mazoga the Orc, if you do the quests associated with her, you will run into some bad guys who drop The Black Bow, it's by far not the best bow in the game, but it's better then anything you will find early on.

And yes, Cyrodil is big!!!

[Nathxoxo]

Once you've been to a place once, you can fast travel to it anytime after that. You can also fast travel to any town as well.

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You should have also received a free horse at the Priory after you spoke to the head guy. If you didn't go talk to the blacksmith who walks outside of the Priory.

/end of spoiler

If you're pointing at an NPC and your cursor turns into a crown instead of a head, that means that person is important and will likely (but not always) have a quest to give you.

Another spoiler, highlight to read.

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Since you're like to use a bow, I suggest you head to Leyawiin and talk to people there until you hear about Mazoga the Orc, if you do the quests associated with her, you will run into some bad guys who drop The Black Bow, it's by far not the best bow in the game, but it's better then anything you will find early on.

And yes, Cyrodil is big!!!

Aha thanks for that mate I'll be sure to check out both priory and leyawiin

Also thanks for the tip about the cursor being different for some npcs, I never knew that ;p

Another question (I know, when are my questions going to stop ) but I was wondering do you aqquire armour in dungeons ect because I am still in my prison attire lol

Also I was just wondering if i were to clear out a dungeon, do the npcs respawn after a certain amount of time, or can you only do each dungeon once and once only?

Thanks mate,
Nathxoxo!

[Ares2382]

"Another question (I know, when are my questions going to stop ) but I was wondering do you aqquire armour in dungeons ect because I am still in my prison attire lol "

You can either buy armor, or get it from beating up bad guys. But better armor (and better equipment in general) will start showing up as loot earlier then it will in shops.

And again minor spoiler

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When you were at the Priory talking to the head guy, if you asked him about supplies, he should have opened a chest in the same room with some supplies. If you didn't ask him, just go back and ask him again

"Also I was just wondering if i were to clear out a dungeon, do the npcs respawn after a certain amount of time, or can you only do each dungeon once and once only? "

I'm not sure if ALL dungeons do, but certainly a lot of them do have NPCs that respawn after a few game days.

"I know, when are my questions going to stop "

We don't mind, all of us were new to the game at sometime.

[Fljotsdale]

You took the amulet to Jauffre, obviously. Did you speak to Prior Maborel afterwards? He offers you the use of his horse. Did you accept or refuse? Either way, it doesn't matter, because if he offered it you can legitimately go back to the priory and collect 'prior Maborel's horse'. Mount it by standing close and using whatever xbox uses to 'activate'. You will automatically mount the horse. (Don't get on any horse that shows a red hand symbol!)
Controlling the horse is a bit harder. Use walk mode not run mode if you actually want to ride it in real time, at least until you get used to controlling it's direction. But it's simpler to just be in run mode, on the horse, and fast-travel to wherever you want to go.
There are different breeds of horses. Your Wiki page will tell you all about 'em. I mostly don't use horses but there is one really cool horse you get part-way through the DB quest. I do use that!

[Fljotsdale]

As Ares said, Jauffre will open a chest with armour/weapons if you enquire about 'Assistance'. I generally take the steel bow, arrows, light armour and any potions/spellscrolls. But you can take the lot if you want to and sell what you don't need.
But... didn't you explore that first dungeon? You should have found iron bows, iron arrows, Rough leather Cuirass and boots, Iron Cuirass and greaves, iron shortswords, a steel shortsword (on the body of Captain Renault, and either on her or close by her, Akaviri Katana), besides various potions, several coins, lockpicks... and, the best item in the dungeon, the Goblin shaman's staff. Most of the stuff you will sell to Rindir - he gives the best prices when you are only picking up low-level stuff - but some of it is very useful indeed at the beginning!

[Fljotsdale]

Oh! And in dungeons, yes the people/critters and some chests respawn. Certain items do not ever respawn. Minor Spoiler

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Quest items, for example, but there are others as well - I have never found that Varla stones respawn, nor the smaller blue stones you can use to restore your magica (both found in Ayleid ruins)

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[Nathxoxo]

As Ares said, Jauffre will open a chest with armour/weapons if you enquire about 'Assistance'. I generally take the steel bow, arrows, light armour and any potions/spellscrolls. But you can take the lot if you want to and sell what you don't need.
But... didn't you explore that first dungeon? You should have found iron bows, iron arrows, Rough leather Cuirass and boots, Iron Cuirass and greaves, iron shortswords, a steel shortsword (on the body of Captain Renault, and either on her or close by her, Akaviri Katana), besides various potions, several coins, lockpicks... and, the best item in the dungeon, the Goblin shaman's staff. Most of the stuff you will sell to Rindir - he gives the best prices when you are only picking up low-level stuff - but some of it is very useful indeed at the beginning!

Ah ok I'll have to go back to Jauffre and ask him for his assistance Will going to Jauffre activate all the oblivion gates though? Or is that only when you go to kvatch?

[Nathxoxo]

You took the amulet to Jauffre, obviously. Did you speak to Prior Maborel afterwards? He offers you the use of his horse. Did you accept or refuse? Either way, it doesn't matter, because if he offered it you can legitimately go back to the priory and collect 'prior Maborel's horse'. Mount it by standing close and using whatever xbox uses to 'activate'. You will automatically mount the horse. (Don't get on any horse that shows a red hand symbol!)
Controlling the horse is a bit harder. Use walk mode not run mode if you actually want to ride it in real time, at least until you get used to controlling it's direction. But it's simpler to just be in run mode, on the horse, and fast-travel to wherever you want to go.
There are different breeds of horses. Your Wiki page will tell you all about 'em. I mostly don't use horses but there is one really cool horse you get part-way through the DB quest. I do use that!

Is Prior Maborel in the same house as Jauffre? If so I did speak to him but I never seen him offer me his horse, I'll have to go back and see

Thanks for your help, once again

[Nathxoxo]

Btw I plan on restarting my character once again (lol I know) but I want to avoid kvatch so I don't start all the oblivion gates off and then return to a later level. I am not bothered at all about restarting since I am not far into this save and plus I have a save just inside the sewer gate before you leave!

Was just wondering though as majors I have 1 spare to take an unsure what to take and was wondering if you lot could help me decide!
So far I have: Alteration, Illusion, Light Armour, Blade, Marksman, Sneak, then I have acrobatics but that is the 1 I am unsure about and was hoping you guys could give me some options of which I could take.

Thanks! Your community newbie Nathxoxo!

[Ares2382]

Highlight here.

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You can talk to Jauffre, and then just stop there with the main quests, the gates won't open. Continue to Kvatch only once you're ready.

I don't actually use horses very often. And that's because I either run to my destination (thus training Athletics) or jump all the way to my destination (thus training Acrobatics). But I do fast travel whenever it's available.

Also, it really doesn't matter too much about Acrobatics. If you don't mind jumping a lot it's easy to raise. I usually don't take it, but I do raise it up as quickly as possible, for the reasons already mentioned in one of the above replies. I'd take Armorer, which is not so easy to train, because it really sucks when your enchanted weapons break down in the middle of the dungeon and you can't repair it because your skill is too low. Another option is Restoration, being able to heal yourself without relying on potions and more importantly being able to heal decease and restore attributes without having to go to a shrine is also useful.