The demi-leech in TOB

Solaris · Post by **Solaris** » Sat Dec 08, 2001 1:58 pm

Try this:
Move in wif people carrying +4 or better ranged weaps.
Keep one person near de door and shoot
Once de lich starts casting his fave spell,
make a quick exit..
Repeat as necessary

Cheesy effectiveness

Luther · Post by **Luther** » Mon Dec 10, 2001 3:38 pm

Kangaxx was a Biatch to kill but if you're playing Watcher's keep in TOB, then you're characters should be buff enough to beat the demilich the conventional ways. I just hasted, whirlwinded and bumrushed my fighters in with +4 weapons and the skull just blipped out in two rounds without getting one imprisonment off. I think I fired off ring of ram with one of my mages too.

-Luther-

DragonDerk · Post by **DragonDerk** » Mon Dec 17, 2001 5:25 pm

Has anyone tried Bolt of Glory?

It worked well on Demogorgon, but I didn't think to use it against the demilich.

Also, I noticed that raising my magic resistance to 100 with Potions of Magic Protection didn't help against imprisonment.

Spell immunity and a good old fashioned beating was all it took - though this one was a little more clever than Kangaxx. I found that Kangaxx concentrated only on Aerie while my other characters whacked away. The skullscum in Watcher's Keep kept turning around and imprisoning my unprotected main character (fighter).

Demiliches certainly are entertaining - though somewhat annoying.

DragonDerk

Whailor · Post by **Whailor** » Tue Dec 18, 2001 7:15 am

Why resort to some fancy fireworks and crazy spells.. All you really need is a simple Protection from Undead scroll (this should really be a spell for paladins and clerics heh), slap it on, grab a +4 weapon or better, go in, crack the skull and pick the loot.

Unless you're some crazy caster, then sure, waltz in and go trigger happy

DragonDerk · Post by **DragonDerk** » Tue Dec 18, 2001 2:33 pm

Originally posted by Whailor:
Why resort to some fancy fireworks and crazy spells.. All you really need is a simple Protection from Undead scroll

Normally I'd agree with you, but at the time I found it, I was fresh out of scrolls! I used them up killing Bodhi and the other vamps in her lair.

(Off topic, Bodhi): It was kind of wierd, actually - I had my fighter and Minsc protected, with Drizzt at my side, the rest of the party back out of sight. Once the rest of the beasties were dead, I wailed on Bodhi for what seemed like an eternity, without her attacking any of the three of us. We must have done over 500 damage to her. And she only died after the vorpal sword sliced her to bits.

Sorry about the sidebar - the moral of the story is always have a protection from undead scroll handy....

DragonDerk

Luther · Post by **Luther** » Tue Dec 18, 2001 3:42 pm

Derk---the protect from undead spell makes you invisible from undead, so when you killed Bodhi she couldn't see you and therefore her death dialogue never popped up. You probably missed her last despairing shout.

Personally, I never used protect from undead or protect from magic scrolls for this reason and that they seem to screw with some of the games mechanics.

-Luther-

Whailor · Post by **Whailor** » Wed Dec 19, 2001 1:18 am

I personally never used the Protect from Undead on vamps, they aren't much of a problem anyway. When you have a cleric in the party, let him/her crunch the Turn Undead and watch them fly to bits'n'pieces. Paladin will do as well, though paladin's Turn Undead is 2 levels below the paladin level, i.e. lvl 17 paladin has lvl 15 Turn Undead. Just make sure you have Protection from Negative Plane on, or Amulet of Power (unless you're a fighter type or monk).

In your case, where Bodhi didn't speak to you, the reason was in the scroll. The Protection from Undead makes the undead not see you, and many NPC's will act AFTER they see you. Like Kangaxx the Demilich turning invulnerable, because everyone was "invisible" to him BEFORE he spoke his cryptic speech and now he just wont die. Or Bodhi, who needs to SEE you to talk to you and only then will be killable. But since she couldn't see you...

[ 12-19-2001: Message edited by: Whailor ]

DragonDerk · Post by **DragonDerk** » Wed Dec 19, 2001 5:01 am

Originally posted by Luther the Hard:
Derk---the protect from undead spell makes you invisible from undead, so when you killed Bodhi she couldn't see you and therefore her death dialogue never popped up. You probably missed her last despairing shout.

Personally, I never used protect from undead or protect from magic scrolls for this reason and that they seem to screw with some of the games mechanics.

-Luther-

Interesting idea. I never considered this. Maybe the scroll wore off on my main character, and that's when she finally died, although I can't say that for certain. I started to get worried after a while that I would become visible again and get level drained back to infancy.

Thanks for the insight.

DragonDerk

Baldursgate Fan · Post by **Baldursgate Fan** » Fri Dec 21, 2001 9:09 pm

@Bruce Lee and @ReignsOfPower

Referring to your earlier posts on why Mace of Disruption doesn't work, it's because it's a + 2 weapon and the Demi Lich requires + 4 and above to hit.

With regard to Dragon's Breath and other spells, perhaps you have done a Pierce Magic on the Demi before letting loose?

As for me, I took the easy way out by changing into the Slayer form and absorbed the - 2 Reputation hit. Gotta find me a temple next

Dying Wizard · Post by **Dying Wizard** » Fri Dec 21, 2001 10:27 pm

Actually, Mace of disruption+2 should work, as it does extra damage to undead and it has a chance of killing them outright. I beat Kangy pretty quickly with it...

Kovi · Post by **Kovi** » Sat Dec 22, 2001 4:06 pm

Originally posted by Dying Wizard:
Actually, Mace of disruption+2 should work, as it does extra damage to undead and it has a chance of killing them outright.

That doesn't mean it "should" work against Demilich. Azuredge has similar characterstics, but it won't work. Because Azuredge has +3 enhancement. Fortunately Mace of Disruption + 2 has a +5 enhancement.

Kovi · Post by **Kovi** » Sat Dec 22, 2001 4:46 pm

Originally posted by Knight Errant:
Nope, dragons breath fires him REAL good, one hit kill. Easy. Also, gave imeon a really good "most powerful foe vanquished" thing.

That is interesting. It really works. Dragon's Breath is a very strange spell: it ignores both mr and spell level protections.