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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2002 5:32 am
by Leonardo
How could Fierkraag give you trouble? I have never had any problems with Fierkraag, no matter what class I have been.


I measured difficulty in "number of reloads" time. When I first bought the game I played as an Inquisitor. Once I got out of Irenicus dungeon, I did Waukeen's Promenade and then headed for the slums, where I got contacted by Gaelan who directed me to a fellow in the Friendly Arm, which requested me to clear his lands of Ogres...
To be short, when my party reached Fierkaag it was around level 9-10, and it took me at least 10 reloads to whack him.
He is easy when you are 13-15, and actually know how to use the spells available :D

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:12 am
by Bloodmist
Originally posted by Leonardo
Once I got out of Irenicus dungeon, I did Waukeen's Promenade and then headed for the slums, where I got contacted by Gaelan who directed me to a fellow in the Friendly Arm, which requested me to clear his lands of Ogres...


Excuse me for my ignorance....Friendly Arm... Inn? :rolleyes:

Thats a bit more to the north of Amn.... on my map, that is.

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:55 am
by Robust Package
The friendly arm inn is from baldurs gate (the original), it is where you 1st meat jaheira (crap) and kalead (crap). I think the bar that Leonardo (idiot) was talking about is the copper coronet

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:59 am
by Bloodmist
Originally posted by Robust Package
The friendly arm inn is from baldurs gate (the original), it is where you 1st meat jaheira (crap) and kalead (crap). I think the bar that Leonardo (idiot) was talking about is the copper coronet


I'm aware of that. I have played the game.

It's no crime to be polite, don't be an @ss on these boards. :mad: Leonardo isn't an idiot because he got the name wrong.
Thank you.

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2002 7:03 am
by Robust Package
sorry.......i was pissed off.......i was in the process of looking up some good quality porn and my g/f walked in.......she called me a "pig" and left, gonna ring her in the morning but needed to take it out on someone, leonardo was a likely target

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2002 7:07 am
by Bloodmist
Originally posted by Robust Package
sorry.......i was pissed off.......i was in the process of looking up some good quality porn and my g/f walked in.......she called me a "pig" and left, gonna ring her in the morning but needed to take it out on someone, leonardo was a likely target


no harm done :) , but keep the flames low.

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2002 7:21 am
by Littiz
Seriously, @Robust, be careful, people have been banned for such comments.
Though I'm sure Leonardo won't be upset. ;)

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2002 7:46 am
by serjeLeBlade
@Baked goods: you're welcome, you actually singled out the opponent that annoyed you the most in the attacking party. You are perfectly in-thread ;)

@Leonardo: I definitely see your point :)

Talking about the-hardest-opponent-compared-to-my-level, then, for me it was Tanova (the spellcasting vampire at Bodhi's lair in chapter 3).
Boyz, that cutie was firing tons of eight level spells (worth noting over the others a spell trigger with five spells in it) and some of the characters in my party were eight level themselves ! :eek: ;) :p
And then she tried a Timestop, which didn't hurt so much since half of my party was already dead and the others confused, stunned or dire charmed :D :rolleyes:
Believe it or not, we won in the end!

THAT has been the hardest fight in the game for me, indeed.
It was the first time I played BG2 also, but I'll never forget her.
Tanova fights better than Irenicus in any of his personifications, imho, and this is even more evident when you have a strong party.

Does anybody share this feeling?

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2002 8:01 am
by gnomethingy
Originally posted by serjeLeBlade
@Baked goods: you're welcome, you actually singled out the opponent that annoyed you the most in the attacking party. You are perfectly in-thread ;)

@Leonardo: I definitely see your point :)

Talking about the-hardest-opponent-compared-to-my-level, then, for me it was Tanova (the spellcasting vampire at Bodhi's lair in chapter 3).
Boyz, that cutie was firing tons of eight level spells (worth noting over the others a spell trigger with five spells in it) and some of the characters in my party were eight level themselves ! :eek: ;) :p
And then she tried a Timestop, which didn't hurt so much since half of my party was already dead and the others confused, stunned or dire charmed :D :rolleyes:
Believe it or not, we won in the end!

THAT has been the hardest fight in the game for me, indeed.
It was the first time I played BG2 also, but I'll never forget her.
Tanova fights better than Irenicus in any of his personifications, imho, and this is even more evident when you have a strong party.

Does anybody share this feeling?


On the subject of high lvl mages....

I had a soft party.. not weak just low hp

Aerie
Hear'dalis
PC Wild mage
Edwin
Valygar
Nalia

We were VERY low lvl... And I made the foolish mistake of moving on the planar sphere...

Where Tolgerios instantly evaporated Aerie, Hear'dali, Edwin and Nalia with an Abhi dhalzims... then he keep using power word kill on my pc.. who annoyingly enough had 47 hp

That for the level I was, was an incredibly hard fight

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2002 9:20 am
by fable
@Robust, you've already been asked by players not to flame others in another topic; now this. Given that you're new to this forum, I suggest you the rules, and decide whether you can fit in. Flaming isn't tolerated, whatever your mood and excuses. If you can rein your temper in, great. If you can't, I suggest you wait until you can before you post, and do something else. Doing otherwise will lead to a quick ban.

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2002 1:23 pm
by Leonardo
Excuse me for my ignorance....Friendly Arm... Inn?

That's a lesson: don't browse Game Banshee's foruns before drinking your third cup of coffe in the morning.
I meant the Copper Coronet. You know, these RPGs beginnings, always sending you to a tavern :D

About people calling me an idiot, no harm done. Nietzche said that what don't kill me makes me stronger. I'm alive, so I'm probably stronger now, which means I don't have to work out anymore and instead can use the spare time to drink more beer!Wohoo!

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2002 3:52 pm
by Bloodmist
Originally posted by Leonardo
That's a lesson: don't browse Game Banshee's foruns before drinking your third cup of coffe in the morning.
I meant the Copper Coronet. You know, these RPGs beginnings, always sending you to a tavern :D


Oh yes the incarnation of roleplaying; An inn! :D ;)

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2002 4:27 pm
by Obike Fixx
Originally posted by Leonardo
I measured difficulty in "number of reloads" time. When I first bought the game I played as an Inquisitor. Once I got out of Irenicus dungeon, I did Waukeen's Promenade and then headed for the slums, where I got contacted by Gaelan who directed me to a fellow in the Friendly Arm, which requested me to clear his lands of Ogres...
To be short, when my party reached Fierkaag it was around level 9-10, and it took me at least 10 reloads to whack him.
He is easy when you are 13-15, and actually know how to use the spells available :D



lvl 10! Now I see your problem in defeating him. I always do all of Athkatla, and then the other (outer) areas. The last thing I do before Watcher's Keep is Firkraag.

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2002 4:33 pm
by Obike Fixx
Originally posted by serjeLeBlade
Ops. True. I always forget about that option :rolleyes:
When I fought Kangaxx the first time anyway, I hadn't got the Slayer transformation ability still.
(I had no +4 weapon at all, either) ;)
It has been quite an interesting fight.

Ok, demiliches prove no danger for demigods like us.
(I'm wondering if the Slayer is immune to "being swallowed whole", too?) ;) :p :rolleyes:

I will try the improved Demogorgon soon ... we have to get out from the Underdark first... I swear this time I won't use Spike Traps.
(...if I manage to kill it in some other way I mean...)

I want to try the ritual asap too!
Boyz, being in the underdark seriously limits the options of "social life" one has available!



When you fought Kangaxx, you had been in the Graveyard District, Right, if not it was a little early to do battle with, THE ONE SUPER DEMI-LICH!

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2002 7:56 am
by MasterDarkNinja
some of these beasts can be very hard from your level and power when you fight them. guys like Kangaxx are impossible to beat without the right tools. I remember when Irenicus used to be hard for me to beat (first time I fought him before I had TOB and yet I was cheating in that fight and had a hard time still!!! did the difficultly get changed?).
I found Draconis hard with my soloing Swashbuckler but when he faced my soloing undead hunter he fell down real fast on the first try (why get a cavalier when someone else can easily knock down a dragon? dragons can't even level drain or give you a deadly condition).
I think that the hardest nonboss monsters are mind flayers and level draining undead. those monsters are easy however once you get the right tools.
I found the 2nd fight against Irenicus as a human hard. I had to have my whole party run around until his protections wore off. he kept on using power word kill right before I beat him. in my most recent battle against him he fell before he cast a spell. he should of watched where he stepped with all of those traps at his feet. and the same goes to his demons.
traps can make any boss fall easily
the boss I had the hardest time on was that demon on the 2nd floor of WK, it's easy with a party but when soloing he recovers too fast for you scrach him. I beat him without cheating as a Swashbuckler with traps however (though I still had to use a lot of whirlwinds and hit him a lot even after the traps.)

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2002 12:49 pm
by Sojourner
Originally posted by Coot
Draconis when I faced him with my wild mage and Jaheira. My wm was lvl 20 IIRC, Jaheira was 14/13, I think.
I can't believe people can actually beat him while soloing, even if they play a kensai-mage.


It can be done with the right strategy - my solo fighter-thief led him into a nest of Time Traps and wailed on him. A solo mage-thief could maze him, lay some traps while waiting for him to return, then mop up what's left (I actually used this strategy with Abizigal).

IMO, Melissan was the most difficult to defeat - with the marathon battle and all the friends she summoned up.

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2002 12:58 pm
by Alson
Originally posted by Sojourner
IMO, Melissan was the most difficult to defeat - with the marathon battle and all the friends she summoned up.


Ascension's Mellisan, that is?