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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2002 6:41 am
by serjeLeBlade
Originally posted by Littiz
Actually the new beholders and their lair were made by Xyx ;)


I know that many of the optional fights hosted in the Sola mod are from different modders...

But I can't remember them all... :(

Maybe I should print the readme and keep a copy with me :rolleyes: :(

My apologies @Xyx

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2002 3:25 pm
by Koveras
serje, this is the 3rd time playing with Sola :) I installed every one except imp mage (it sounded buggy). I fought the imp beholders without shield or cloak, its not THAT hard, but the anti-magic ray is REALLY annoying, and the ::Spoiler:: hive mother is very hard indeed. My party is still lvl 9-11, I'm not sure what it will be after the Dearnise hold since the new things in it are worth a lot of xp. (especially with Valen :rolleyes: ) I've never tried to kill beholders at this current level, so im not sure if im ready yet.

The reason I wanted to get Sola early is to hear his nonparty banters, and to experience the underdark without too much powerful objects (staff of magi, ring of gaxx, etc). Before this game, I always did everything possible before going to chapter 4.

About Keldorn, I think he would leave also if you did the evil 2nd task (I'm not sure though)

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2002 2:10 am
by Littiz
Thanx to an Alson's intuition we've found the DEFINITIVE counter vs Anti-Magic-Ray!
(maybe a little cheesy) :D :D

Don't know if Xyx has already updated his site though :p

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2002 4:15 am
by serjeLeBlade
Originally posted by Koveras
The reason I wanted to get Sola early is to hear his nonparty banters, and to experience the underdark without too much powerful objects (staff of magi, ring of gaxx, etc)


Well, just go get him then ;)

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2002 3:29 pm
by Koveras
serje, but im not sure if minsc's armor class will be good enough, especially against drow and improved sahuagin. I might just cheese the beholders (still doable, but MUCH harder) and get the gauntlets, but its not really satisfying :rolleyes: Right now, Im still going to nalia castle so its far away, but i guess it doesnt really matter.

Littiz, i saw the anti-magic ray counter, I guess its good for fighter mages like Sola... :eek: Hmm, i might do the unseeing eye after I get Sola.

Also, do regular mages have anti-magic ray? I dont think so since its so powerful, but im not sure (man, i dont know a lot :D )

I read Xyx's spell strategies (its awesome :cool: ), but i tried to use my wild mage to cast a minor spell sequencer and stored 2 chaos shields, but when it went off, it said that you can only have one chaos shield at a time :confused: Maybe it was because I cast the sequencer through a reckless dweomer? :confused: Anyway, i found that you shouldnt cast a trigger through a dweomer, the wild surge occurs when you set off the trigger. :rolleyes: mot when you cast he trigger.

About wild mages, how often should you have chaos shield on? (I dont know if i should start a new topic for this or not :o ) 'Cause i thought they were kind of valuable.

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2002 7:23 pm
by ForgotenWarrior
I'm kinda new to bg2 so I gotta ask you this question, say you got a thief/mage and you use mislead, you just keep on doing the backstab damage?

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2002 11:34 pm
by UserUnfriendly
ok, what is counter to anti magic ray??/

hive mother version or regular??

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2002 12:00 am
by UserUnfriendly
"I read Xyx's spell strategies (its awesome ), but i tried to use my wild mage to cast a minor spell sequencer and stored 2 chaos shields, but when it went off, it said that you can only have one chaos shield at a time Maybe it was because I cast the sequencer through a reckless dweomer? Anyway, i found that you shouldnt cast a trigger through a dweomer, the wild surge occurs when you set off the trigger. mot when you cast he trigger. "

wes repatched the bg game engine to really stop and kill reiteration spoof and cheese,,,,

in english, the balderdash patch while it fixes many spells that were cumulative with itself, like hardiness stacking, wes did a much better job, and stuff like using chain contingency to summon 3 devas at see enemy no longer work, so once you install sola, stacking spells cant be done, i think...i noticed this happening with sola about a month back, and i cant confirm this, but spell effect stacking just dont work much after you install sola....in fact, i am not sure if wes did not patch the wish spell hardiness cheese...

littiz, i found the spell in the guide...does this protect from the hive mother version, and does it protect from the miscast magic for 3 rounds???? well, i shall test out....

kov, regular beholders do indeed have the regular antimagic ray, but its the hive mother version thats really nasty...punches thru anything, and only a undead sola or kurosian forced spell immunity stack is proof against it...and it causes miscast magic, no save for 3 rounds....

kov, you should have some sort of shield in place whenever you cast nrd, use lesser for normal use, and save the greater for casting just before combat...

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2002 3:17 am
by Littiz
@Koveras: that part was tested by Xyx, you have to ask him! :(

@Forgotten Warrior: yes, just keep hitting in the back!

@User: yes, it stops even the Hive Mother's Anti Magic Ray

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2002 5:06 am
by Alson
Originally posted by Littiz
Thanx to an Alson's intuition we've found the DEFINITIVE counter vs Anti-Magic-Ray!


*blushes*

:D

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2002 5:46 am
by Koveras
thanks user ;) I guess no stacking chaos shield for me. I'll go ask in wes's forum about it. I thought that chaos shield stacking is going to be so awesome, but :( Thanks Alson for the counter :cool:

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2002 6:11 am
by Alson
No problem. :)

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2002 3:38 am
by serjeLeBlade
Originally posted by ForgotenWarrior
I'm kinda new to bg2 so I gotta ask you this question, say you got a thief/mage and you use mislead, you just keep on doing the backstab damage?


You remain improved invisible as long as your image is around, so every time you position behind an opponent and hit, you get the backstab multiplier applied. Just like these thieves who keep drinking potions of invisibility every round...

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2002 4:19 am
by UserUnfriendly
"thanks user I guess no stacking chaos shield for me. I'll go ask in wes's forum about it. I thought that chaos shield stacking is going to be so awesome, but Thanks Alson for the counter "

any wild mages in the audience? cause until i get immie back i dont sk her into wildmage thief, so cannot test this out until much later....but i wonder if wes left a loophole....

chaos shield and improved chaos shield should stack with each other!!!! yeah, wes nerfed multiple spl files from stacking, but chaos shield and improved chaos shield have different spl files, so in theory, using chain contingency to load up a chaos shield and improved chaos shield should work....

easy to test, you should see both icons on portrait, can someone test this out?????