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Originally posted by RiPPeR:
<STRONG>yeah, you could use death ward so arkanis will not kill your character with 1 blow </STRONG>

Yesterday I figured out how to kill Arkanis using death ward spell then today I read your method of killing him with death ward protection. What i want to know is what clued you into using death ward spell? Great minds think alike and all that ?

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Originally posted by Fezek:
<STRONG>Yesterday I figured out how to kill Arkanis using death ward spell then today I read your method of killing him with death ward protection. What i want to know is what clued you into using death ward spell? Great minds think alike and all that ?</STRONG>

i just figured how that imoen's belt didnt protected from death with int drain when i killed kangax in the 1st form, these things of using death ward and protection from magical weapons were posted by kensairyo i think

Ripper and Kensai Ryu, a couple of things clued me into using Death Ward. First, when you check the attack/saving role screen it says something like "Gath does 11 damage: Minsc" followed by " Minsc death", uhh? I read that this guy had a " Short Sword + 1000", but if that is true then it should say " Gath does 1011 damage: Minsc" followed by "Minsc death". Secondly, whenever my characters die of overkill ie.. say Firkragg does 150 damage with dragon breath, my characters are so dead their portrait is removed from the side of the screen( I lost a good Half-orc that way). But in Gath's case, he doesn't do overkill damage ie my characters aren't removed from the side of the screen when he outlandishly kills them. So me thinks this Urban Myth of a "Short Sword +1000" is a pile of expletive. Back to my thinking. Since they didn't die of overkill or excessive damage then they must have died of some kind of "Death Spell: no saving role".Therefore ,use a Death Ward. The dice rolling screen clued me into a) Gath must have some kind of Death Spell no saving sword and b) this Sword +1000 thing is just a pile of poop!!
I appreciate your responses.

His sword is not +1000 or anything like that it just has an extra extension header with 'slay' on it with the parameter set to "Anything". Kind of like the bolts of slaying a certain type of enemy (or crom faeyr slaying golems) only it works for anything that can be killed. The drawback to it is 1. The game considers it a magical weapon (thus why the prot from magic weapons works) and 2. It is also considered an 'instant death' effect that can be protected from by anything that stops insta death spells. (like Death ward) Also this is an older post if you will check the date of the first post so its been around a while, and we have learned much more about how the game actually operates (at least i have).

Arkanis

Is this the guy whom attacks you right after you exit the Underdark?

If so, what was so hard about him? All I did was get me PC to run away and let my other guys to chop him. I had no trouble what so ever with him.

One guy you CAN'T kill is the guard in front of D'Arnises Keep, although I have not tried the mind flayer trick.

Originally posted by KensaiRyu:
<STRONG>His sword is not +1000 or anything like that it just has an extra extension header with 'slay' on it with the parameter set to "Anything". Kind of like the bolts of slaying a certain type of enemy (or crom faeyr slaying golems) only it works for anything that can be killed. The drawback to it is 1. The game considers it a magical weapon (thus why the prot from magic weapons works) and 2. It is also considered an 'instant death' effect that can be protected from by anything that stops insta death spells. (like Death ward) Also this is an older post if you will check the date of the first post so its been around a while, and we have learned much more about how the game actually operates (at least i have).</STRONG>

I appreciate your response Kensairyu but what I want to know is HOW you found out or how you deduced he had that bloody sword and whatever else he wears to prevent him from dying. I know you think this is an old(boring) thread but compared to " What would you advise for a good team ?" type threads it isn't too tedious a thread, or is it? Also, and sorry to be a naivete, but what is a power-player, munchkinism and vanilla?

Cheers, Wardy the Lad

To Reignsofpower:

If you had allied with Alan Linvil and the shadow theives, and then attack Alan Linvil, then Arkanis will pop up in the screen and proceed to kill your characters off in one blow unless they are prepared.

It was figured out by Ripper that the mindflayer drain killed Arkanis he did the same thing i did, i would imagine.

I created a team of characters designed to fight arkanis and sent them after him time and time again until they succeded.

I fought arkanis nonstop for three days for at least four or more hours a day trying things against him. I called my party the Arkanis Swat team and it consisted of 6 level 18 Sorcerors. I discovered early on that arkanis was using some kind of AI that targeted the Protagonist first, so the first order of business was to protect the protagonist, thus i cast all the protection spells on him.And narrowed it down from there. I dont think its a boring topic at all though. If you will do a search of my earlier posts, in one I posted that my goal was to kill the so called immortals in the game, and i was gonna keep trying till i suceeded.

Next (when my pro was protected) I used the sorcerors to cast multiple high level damage spells against Arkanis and watched as he stayed at Near Death, so i figured he had something that did not allow him to die Via losing hitpoints so I figured the best way to kill him would be to polymorph him or turn him to stone, that type of spell, or maybe an insta kill spell.I used Greater Malison and Emotion to render him helpless then tried multiple castings of all the spells on him. I think i succeeded once in killing him with polymorph/petrify spells because he just disappeared...Then a little while later we were discussing the spells that affected him and ripper said maybe you could shapechange and kill him with the mindflayer. I immediately tested his idea with my swat team and verified it. Then posted this post. The other posts i cannot remember their names, i will try to find a link to them.

[ 07-01-2001: Message edited by: KensaiRyu ]

Kensairyu, I appreciate the response. I hope you don't mind if I ask you some q's about earlier stuff in the future. Searchs ar egood for a general overview but sometimes I need more specifics.
Cheers.

Certainly fire away... and heres all the posts that pertain to that subject in order of appearance for anyone whos interested...
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Thanks. So have you ever played a team, probably in mp, that under normal circumstances you would never play ie a skald with a mage that can't memorize stoneskin(abjurer?), a beastmaster, a barbarian elf.. etc . I mean a team that you wouldn't touch with a barge pole thats longer than Arkanis' sword!

Well for fun awhile back i soloed the game with most of the kits...Dont know if that answers your question...I never played MP before due to bad connections in phone line here.

Thats a nice one I will remember. I recently found a nice stategy to kill the big lichie -guy too...