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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 5:51 am
by SupaCat
mhhh if your unarmoured is 100 and light is 100, and you where like a robe . does that robe ( becouse robes are for unarmoured ) count its armor rating with your light armor rating. becous if so you could be super powerful . And so if your light( or wathever) is destroyed you still have your unarmoured skill. And something else, robes cant be destroyed right? So unarmoured 100 robe, shirt , pants, nice shoes and your armorclass wont fail you ever!!!!!

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 7:05 am
by fable
Robes have no armor rating. And if you're unarmored, you get no enchanting benefits that would normally accompany some armor.

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 8:39 am
by Davidetuna
[QUOTE=Maruchan]David what kind of armour and where did you find it :confused: also I thought that he found the ebony shield with night eye[/QUOTE]

Hi, Maruchan.
Since I'm playing Morrowind on Xbox, I got a visit by a Dark Brotherhood assassin around character Lvl 6. The Dark Brotherhood is from the Tribunal expansion (I got the Game of the Year version). I killed him and took his stuff. I checked his armor & even though it was Light armor, it surpassed any other Light armor on Vvardenfall. Even better than Chitin Armor. So I went over to Mournhold and check out some smiths... You wouldn't believe how good the armors are in Mournhold.

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 8:43 am
by Davidetuna
[QUOTE=SupaCat]mhhh if your unarmoured is 100 and light is 100, and you where like a robe . does that robe ( becouse robes are for unarmoured ) count its armor rating with your light armor rating. becous if so you could be super powerful . And so if your light( or wathever) is destroyed you still have your unarmoured skill. And something else, robes cant be destroyed right? So unarmoured 100 robe, shirt , pants, nice shoes and your armorclass wont fail you ever!!!!![/QUOTE]

Hi, Supercat.

If you have unarmoured skill at 100 lvl, that means you are dodging and evading the attacks. Armor rating doesn't matter in combat then.

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 8:53 am
by Davidetuna
[QUOTE=Moleman]First of all, the topic of this thread presumes everybody uses some kind of armor, and no-one would go with unarmoured as their main protection. Surely there are unarmoured fans... anyone?

Personally I have never chosen to use heavy armor. It's so... eh, heavy :D Considering how much loot you collect all the time while wandering at Morrowind I don't like the idea of my armor taking half of my carrying capacity. Of light and medium armor I sometimes use light, sometimes medium. The most powerful light armor, glass, looks pretty stupid to me so I normally like medium better (adamantium is nice). Last character I've played uses light and unarmoured however. I thought it would be nice to have only saviours hide and boots of blinding speed, and no other armor. But I need some more CE sanctuary cloths to be able to play like that.[/QUOTE]

Personally, I don't like the bulk of Heavy armor, fun to collect though. Like having a whole set of Steel armor with the tower shield. Still I prefer the mobility, especially when you have to travel alot by walking. Right now, I trying to gather glass bits, and get custom made armor from glass.
Love the wild look of spikes from glass. :)

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 8:57 am
by Rane
If you have unarmoured skill at 100 lvl, that means you are dodging and evading the attacks. Armor rating doesn't matter in combat then.


No, armor rating is still used to determine if you get hit or not. However, there's a mod that gives you 50 dodge points when you have unarmored at 100. Note: A mod...

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 11:13 am
by Maruchan
David have you looked at glass armour Im almost 100% positive that it is better than the brotherhood armour but the brotherhood armour looks so cool :D also I have not gon to mourhold (sp) yet I have gone to soilstem (sp)
and didnt like it to much I hate those freakin trolls on hogs......I like thier swords but not them :)

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 1:20 pm
by Davidetuna
Yes, Maruchan. I have, that's why I'm gathering all the glass I can.
Solheim is tough, I know. They use Wolf skin armor up there, counts as Light armor.

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 1:24 pm
by Davidetuna
Dark Brotherhood armor IS cool, I have 2 sets in my Balmora 'Home'. In case I have to kill someone illegally. :) If I get caught by a guard or an ordinator, at least I have another set.
Those of you who have found the Dark Brotherhood hangout under the Great Bazaar in Mournhold, you can make a lot of money. :)

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 2:12 pm
by Maruchan
David, do you just stay away from medium and heavy armour because you should try to be equal with everything you never know when you will find some nice heavy armour. I mean it is better.

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 2:16 pm
by fable
Better only from a power-playing perspective. Light armor means the ability to carry far more, while medium could be fine for someone interested in roleplaying. You can get through the game fine with just medium armor.

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 2:43 pm
by Maruchan
heavy armour has exelent benifits cant you get past daedra with all daedric armour on :)

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 3:10 pm
by Anonononomous
[QUOTE=Maruchan]David, do you just stay away from medium and heavy armour because you should try to be equal with everything you never know when you will find some nice heavy armour. I mean it is better.[/QUOTE]


There's not really much, if any, good reason to have high ratings in all the armors. You're only going to wear one, so you should put other skills in the major/minor section.

The only reason to raise the armor ability of armors you don't wear is to get the attribute bonuses.

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 3:29 pm
by Maruchan
I just like to be able to use it all for when I find somthin I really like because there is alot of cool heavy medium and light stuff out there and I think its good to be resourceful plus isnt wraithgaurd heavy :confused:

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:45 pm
by Rookierookie
I recommend starting light but train in both light and heavy. Light starts you very well especially with Tribunal (DBs) and is compatible with Da Boots and Da Cuirass, along with reducing weight, while heavy is necessary for Wraithguard.

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 6:03 am
by fable
[QUOTE=Anonononomous]The only reason to raise the armor ability of armors you don't wear is to get the attribute bonuses.[/QUOTE]

But it is a very good reason. Unfortunately, the developers made it so the only way to get high endurance (hit points) was through medium and heavy armor. This doesn't mean you need to plan on using either, but if you want reasonably good hit points, you'll consider using 'em if for nothing else than cheap fights with fish.

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 6:16 am
by Dark Master
And spear, but not many people use that.

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 6:20 am
by fable
True. I wish they'd made axe endurance-based, or maybe athletics (which would make sense, after all).

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 7:27 am
by Davidetuna
I'm trying to follow the inputs here, & it's getting more and more fun.
I agree with Maruchan, the player should practice all the skills, even Unarmoured.
For exempel: After I've killed all the smugglers in a cave, I like to leave all the armor at 'home', wherever that is, and just carry a shield & a longblade. Then go back to that cave and carry as much as I can, to bring back all the objects home.
Heavy armor is useful in other situations, but only if you are stationary.
Like this one:
Morag Tong has their homebase in Arena Canton, Vivic. After you have killed and cleaned out someone's manor in Vivic, you can bring the whole set of, let say Steel armor & Steel tower shield, & put it in the manor. When you get some duties, which is placed in Vivic, you go to the manor and put it on. Then do the duty and put the armor back in the manor. That way, you don't have to travel so much.

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 3:43 pm
by Robnark
I like medium as a general rule. light does have its advantages - speed, jumping around like a freak, the ability to carry far too much useless rubbish in your inventory - but I like the extra protection with medium. of course, it is generally less available and the indoril stuff rather annoys ordinators.

and I can't stand heavy. it can look pretty impressive, but it kills your mobility and your spare weight capacity. if you aren't teleporting around or dumping absolutely everything you don't really, really need to carry, it can be annoying.

and I feel naked unarmoured. might be amusing at high level - and you'd level up fast - but it's not good at lower levels.