Want To Be A Moderator?

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Wed Aug 22, 2001 4:03 am

@Weasel i appreciate you mentioning me for the POR forum, the only problem being that i know next to nothing aobut the game.

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Wed Aug 22, 2001 4:19 am

@Buck, i would be willing to do the Shadows of Amn or the Throne of Bhaal forums, i would even mod the poison challice of SYM

if given the opportunity, but as someone pointed out we are all limited to time frames, i have to work, which must take priority over my moderating, so my effectiveness would be between 6pm (uk time) onwards every night of the week. I would still be able to mod during the day, but i would be less effective.

I think anyone who became a mod would have to have a trial period, to judge their effectiveness.

Minerva · Post by **Minerva** » Wed Aug 22, 2001 5:04 am

About moderating the SYM...

I have a reservation about one of regulars, or "spammers" to be a moderator of the SYM forum, unless the person will give up being a spammer. I suspect it will be difficult for members to take him/her words seriously, if he/she keeps spamming, and his/her words may be taken as flame instead of warning.

Also, one of moderators has already been involved in several spamming incidents in the SYM before, which did cause stir in the forum and among some members. I know the moderators are doing great job here and "hardly" abuse their power, though I cannot use the word, "never". Therefore, I believe the hardcore spammers (LOL) should not be appointed as a moderator, and I hope those incidents will never happen again.

I don't think there's any problem for him/her to be a moderator in the other forum, though, as long as he/she has self discipline.

Gruntboy · Post by **Gruntboy** » Wed Aug 22, 2001 5:15 am

As ever, wise words of wisdom from Minerva

[ 08-22-2001: Message edited by: Gruntboy ]

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Wed Aug 22, 2001 6:06 am

@Minerva, i agree with your points, you are as wise as ever

I probably couldn't forgo my spamming ways

so i would be useless as an SYM mod

I

I can not think of a single person (apart from Minerva

only problem being time at GB ) who would be appropriate for the role, most (if not all) the regulars are consistent SYM posters, surely this negates their involvement as mods for SYM.

It might be owrth there not being any mods for SYM, merely us responsible posters, alerting Buck or whoever to any rules of the forum that are broken.

Nightmare · Post by **Nightmare** » Wed Aug 22, 2001 6:27 am

I could be a moderator for NWN or BG2, but I'm only 14, and come september, I'm at school for the day.

I won't be able to log on until 5pm.

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Wed Aug 22, 2001 8:08 am

Minerva has a point, but I don't agree it's necessary for a moderator/-s of SYM to give up the spamming entirely, it depends on who it is. As long this person is succesful in keeping a distance between the "usual spamming" and the moderator role, I think the problems of mixing the roles can be avoided.

In order for other members ot clearly understand the difference, the Mod could should make it clear when he/she is posting as a Mod by obvious marks, like including the Mod title in the sig, as Flagg did, as use a more formal tone when posting as a Mod.

Personally, I think one of the most important characteristics of a Mod, is to have a good feeling for when a post is violating the forum rules or is discriminating, offending or illegal in some other way not predefined in the rules, regardless of one's own bias.

Minerva · Post by **Minerva** » Wed Aug 22, 2001 8:28 am

Originally posted by C Elegans:
In order for other members ot clearly understand the difference, the Mod could should make it clear when he/she is posting as a Mod by obvious marks, like including the Mod title in the sig, as Flagg did, as use a more formal tone when posting as a Mod.

I understand what you mean and agree it depends on the person, but, unfortunately, this has been violated already before. That is why I objects spammers to be a moderator in the SYM.

If I have any say, I suggest to move one of current moderators to the SYM, then appoint some members to the other forums. As I mentioned earlier, I'm sure Gruntboy will be a good moderator in Icewind Dale forum, and so will some others, like fable, Mr Sleep, and Weasel. They know what can be tolerated and what cannot be in GB forum, and that is an advantage for both them and other members, I think.

fable · Post by **fable** » Wed Aug 22, 2001 8:31 am

Originally posted by C Elegans:
Minerva has a point, but I don't agree it's necessary for a moderator/-s of SYM to give up the spamming entirely, it depends on who it is. As long this person is succesful in keeping a distance between the "usual spamming" and the moderator role, I think the problems of mixing the roles can be avoided.

In order for other members ot clearly understand the difference, the Mod could should make it clear when he/she is posting as a Mod by obvious marks, like including the Mod title in the sig, as Flagg did, as use a more formal tone when posting as a Mod.

Personally, I think one of the most important characteristics of a Mod, is to have a good feeling for when a post is violating the forum rules or is discriminating, offending or illegal in some other way not predefined in the rules, regardless of one's own bias.

It's also important, while spamming, to know when to back off. I worked as a board moderator and dungeonmaster over several years for one of the major online gaming companies. You quickly learn that the fewer controversial topics you get involved in, the less chance there is of creating any perception of favoritism or bullying. Light, unobtrusive spamming is best; it takes no sides.

ThorinOakensfield · Post by **ThorinOakensfield** » Wed Aug 22, 2001 9:48 am

I don't mind moderating the NWN forums or one of the smaller ones, but schools going to start in 2 weeks and i'm not going to be online as much as before.

Edwin · Post by **Edwin** » Wed Aug 22, 2001 9:54 am

I'd like to help here.....i check the board everyday and i'm mainly interested in the BGII area....so if you need help for this area and think i'm ok for it, let me know....

KillerKid · Post by **KillerKid** » Wed Aug 22, 2001 10:16 am

for some reason i have the fealing i have a 0 chance of getting the job not being a old major spammer

Denethorn · Post by **Denethorn** » Wed Aug 22, 2001 10:22 am

you and me both Killerkid

For some reason that didn't seem to make sense to me

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Gwalchmai · Post by **Gwalchmai** » Wed Aug 22, 2001 10:44 am

Originally posted by fable:
It's also important, while spamming, to know when to back off. I worked as a board moderator and dungeonmaster over several years for one of the major online gaming companies. You quickly learn that the fewer controversial topics you get involved in, the less chance there is of creating any perception of favoritism or bullying. Light, unobtrusive spamming is best; it takes no sides.

I would like to voice my agreement with C Elegans and Fable on this subject. Past behavior as a 'spammer' should not necessarily disqualify one as a moderator. In fact, the more prolific 'spammers' would probably have a better sense of what behavior is permissible. However, if one were to assume the mantle of moderator, one's spamming activities would have to be clearly differentiated, and probably curtailed somewhat.

The difficult thing about being a moderator would be reconciling one's own tolerances with the tolerances established by the forum rules and past postings.

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Wed Aug 22, 2001 11:01 am

Well, for some people, it won't be hard for them to develop a less intrusive Spam. All it will really involve will be some cutting back on spam, and some more resposibility to monitoring the actualy posts. I'm sure whoever gets the job(s) will be good choices, and will do their jobs well.

Minerva · Post by **Minerva** » Wed Aug 22, 2001 11:03 am

KillerKid & Alexander Denethorn:

I don't think whether you registered in this month or six months ago is not important to be a moderator, and I believe Buck will not choose his moderators purely the basis of how long he/she has been a member of GB (or, how many posts he/she has).

However, I think it is not suitable for underaged school teenagers to be a moderator (I don't know how old you are, so don't take this as directed at you, please). Part of moderators job is to monitor materials and language used in the forum, and edit/delete if it is not suitable in the forum. In this case, the minor should not see some of them to monitor in the first place. Also, the good judgement comes with experience and (dare I say) age, which are something teenagers can't have enough yet.

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Wed Aug 22, 2001 11:33 am

@Minerva: Thank so kindly for that dear. I happen to be 16, yet keep up with everyone here in terms of the rules, and awareness, and even Fables conversations. I don't think that a generalized statment was the right way to put it. Yes, I do agree that a lot of teenagers are not yet ready (I won't say suitable, because they may be in the future) because they have to gain some more maturity. But that's not all the people. For instance, Gaxx is younger than me, but he shows great responsibility and awareness. It's all just a matter of what the people are all like.

Weasel · Post by **Weasel** » Wed Aug 22, 2001 11:34 am

Originally posted by C Elegans:


Personally, I think one of the most important characteristics of a Mod, is to have a good feeling for when a post is violating the forum rules or is discriminating, offending or illegal in some other way not predefined in the rules, regardless of one's own bias.

I have to agree. The best thing about Flagg and The Deacon was they could separate the difference between spam and trash.

Both of them are from Europe, Buck is from N. America. To cover SYM I believe someone from N./S. America or Asia needs to be installed.

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Wed Aug 22, 2001 11:46 am

@Weasel Flagg and Deke are both good at keeping their serious posting and spamming in seperate posts but i do not think this is cultural, and with the current society i do not think that having a certain nationality makes any difference.

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Wed Aug 22, 2001 11:52 am

@Sleep: Weasel isn't talking about making the mod a certain culture, or culture. He's talking about Time Zones. To help Buck more effectivly, he's suggesting someone in a closer Time zone.