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I have to second/third/forth Redemption. It's a fun game, nice to look at, and the story is interesting. I install it whenever I feel the need to hack and slash. Some of the lines are priceless, too. I liked having other vamps to control and figuring out all of the "hidden" bits. And having all the disciplines to play with was great.

When I first saw the promotional stuff from Bloodlines I thought that the male Toreador and the blond he was with were Cristof and Lily. I held out hope until I played through Downtown and realized they were just random NPCs and models. I'm still hoping for some hint of him since he is WW cannon. Second ed. cannon, anyway.

And no part of Redemption scared the crap out of me like parts of Bloodlines do. Stupid hunted hotel.

VtM: Redemption is a very different game from Bloodlines. It's entirely linear, has a decent story that your actions don't affect much, and it is essentially a series of dungeon crawls. It can be fun, but it can grow old. My biggest gripe with it was the absense of any side quests and the lack of many NPCs and meaningful subplots. It's a decent game for what it is, though. If you like dungeon crawl style games, then you'll probably enjoy it. They do give you party play options, and a wide range of disciplines to chose from.

Likewise, I've never been able to get into Morrowwind. I bought it the week of its release and have tried playing it a dozen or so times now. It just has never "captured me." I'm sure I'm missing something...I really don't know why I can't get into it.

You might enjoy KoTR more after you get off the initial planet. It begins to pick up in terms of both action and game play at that point. I actually think it ends up resembling the format of play that Bloodlines does. It's really a pretty good game.

[QUOTE=Cryos]Morrowind player here too. Played that for aaaaages. I couldn't really get into those expansions though, especially the tribunal, everything was killing me with those damned adamantium paralyzing weapons. I really should try blood moon and be a werewolf. Wish the player models weren't so butt ugly, though.[/QUOTE]

Morrowind is such a time-thief! I would suggest that the Tribunal section shouldn't be as difficult as you are finding it - however, the solution is in two parts a) a means of regeneration and b) ability to fly. whilst there are areas in tribunal where flying is not permitted, the major quest areas allow it. I suggest that you capture a major soul (golden saint, shambling tentacly thing or a god-type thingy) using either Azura's star or a golden blood-cell (have permanently enchanted soul-snatch weapons to ensure it is easy) - then use some daedric item (shields are good) or exquisite ring/amulet - and give yourself a few points of levitation permanently on. I suggest doing it as a range as you can keep trying until top of the range comes up - that way, you can fly anywhere anytime your patience will permit.
the restore health item works the same way - flying out of range to recover keeps you able to handle the bad guys.

those assassins in their cave complex are almost impossible if you don't fly - however - it can be a source of fabulous wealth - have a jump point back at the armourer's shop - kill lots of assassins and pilt up their kit. overload yourself so that you cannot even walk and zap back to the shop.
sell the gear - up to 10k max, wait 24 hours standing on the spot (having disengaged flying mode), sell more gear and repeat until all the gear has been sold.
the assassins curiasses and better weapons sell for a lot of dosh and you can become immensely rich - I have had over 2 million in my pocket - so rich that you can buy anything available.

the assassins re-spawn BTW.

problem is that with so much kit and so much money - the game gets a bit too easy. I have mentioned before that I have whole suits of chameleon that permit me to do as I wish, I can alternatively be a complete tank with complete enchanted daedric armour giving amazing permanent powers and stat increases. alternatively, I can just use enchanted clothing and jewellery.

I find it difficult to keep track of all the gear, so used a modded base to store it all. there is a nice cottage available to download - located just outside the town - with a basement filled with long tables to pile up. the alternative is the club, but that runs out of room eventually.

my stats are almost all maxed out, so my level got enormous.
frankly even the gods cannot beat me in a fight - which is why I have hardly played it in months.

This really isn't about Bloodlines, so I'm moving the thread over to the RPG Discussion forum.

You guys should really try Gothic 2, that game simply owns.

I suggest Thief: Deadly Shadow. If you like nosferatu you'll like this game. I know it's not rpg. It's a stealth game and you need a lot of patience. There's also a haunted mansion but of course bloodline's hotel is scarier.

Other recommendations;
Gothic 1 and 2, Morrowind, deus ex-Invinsible War, Star Wars KOTOR, Jedi Academy, Thief 2 Metal Age, Half Life 2, and lots more title that I forgot.

I would have to give the nod to Gothic and Gothic II as the best "action" RPG's Ive ever played. The controls are a little wacky, until you get used to them, but then you realize they make absolute sense.

And, even though they are both "3rd person" for the most part, Gothic II is also playable in first person (alittle harder to control, but its available)

Chalk up another vote for Gothic II, havn't played the first Gothic yet though. I love the different skills you can use, the combat system and the world in general. Its not as massive as Morrowind, but you do have access to most areas (I encountered a end game monster after a few hours of playing. One hit and I became earths second celestial body).

Morrowind is another good game, but the combat system in it is my only real problem. I find the easiest way around that is to use cheats to pump up your combat skills a bit, so you don't have to sit around and swing 101 times just to finsih off a low level goon (its not that bad, but it can feel that way at times.)

Also, if you have a small group of friends who all like this game, you can always try the pen-n-paper RPG that this game is based on, or one of the many other p-n-p RPGs out there.

Can someone recommend ME a game? What I liked about Bloodlines was the great story, scary videos, long dialogues and the fact that you could choose what u want to do and how that affected the story.

Okay.. Then don't.

Thanks for the reply. Yeah, I've noticed it's really hard to find that kind of games. I mean, I don't like FPS at all. I played HL & HL2 but honestly didn't enjoy them that much. I like great stories, horror, dialogues, puzzles etc. So now you're gonna say adventure is for me? Nope. There's only few adventure games that I have enjoyed. Many of them are boring and the story is not believeable. Only adventure games I've enjoyed were Gabriel Knight 3 and Still Life. Those had a great story and awsome cut scenes. Oh well...

I haven't played it myself, but you should look at the Silent Hill games. The last one, Silent Hill 4: The Room, is out on PC. I know it's definately a horror game that includes puzzles and is 3rd person, but thats all I really know.

Try Morrowind with the Vampire Embrace 2.3 mod (requires the PC version of Morrowind plus the Tribunal and Bloodmoon expansions to morrowind)

You get all the freedom of doing whatever you want from morrowind, plus the vampire gameplay from the mod.
Things like drinking blood, getting npcs addicted to the pleasure of giving you blood, or embraceing npcs converting them into vampires who will follow and fight for you.

I wouldn't recommend Morrowind to everyone. It's great for people like me, but some people just don't see the fun in it.[/QUOTE]

I agree. I like playing it, but
I can get sick of it very easly. I dont like games with big worlds like that. I need something smaller. Oterwise I get lost in where to go or where to start this quest or what not.

Another good game like these are gothic and gothic 2
But I have never finished these games due to the size of the world