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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2001 8:31 am
by Lucian_Garland
Originally posted by toeman:
<STRONG>best leather is human skin +5 20% magic res.</STRONG>
you forget the +4 to all saves, making it very good, albeit lacking in ac. But a determined evil assasin who is following in his father's footsteps should get much use from it

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2001 8:34 am
by ElvenKing
You know, toeman is right. The Human Skin +5 is the superior leather armour. Not only does it give 20% magic resistance but also gives +4 to all your saving throws. This far outweighs the 20% hide in shadows of the Night's Gift. If you are running an evil thief, this suit is a MUST have. For what it is worth, here is my list...

Best Leather Armour
Human Skin +5 - 20% Magic Resistance, +4 to all saves

Best Studded Leather Armour
Shadow Dragon Scale - 50% Acid Resistance

Best Hide Armour
Aeger's Hide +3 - 15% Fire, Cold and Acid Resistance, immune to Confusion

Best Chain Mail
Bladesinger Chain +4 - a must have for dual & multi-class mages

Best Splint Mail
Armour of Faith +3 - +1 to all saves

Best Plate Mail
Gorgon Plate +4 - 15% Fire and Acid Resistance

Best Full Plate Mail
Red Dragon Scale - 50% Fire Resistance, non-magically rated

[ 06-14-2001: Message edited by: ElvenKing ]

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2001 5:46 pm
by Nightmare
The plate of the Balduran and the armour from the limited wish spell are also very good.

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2001 8:01 pm
by Irenin
Yes best plate is red dragon scale. You can wear ring of gaxx and ring of protection +2. So its actually the better choice. Everyone knows what armors are the best hehe =).

[ 06-13-2001: Message edited by: Irenin ]

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2001 9:49 pm
by Meerlight
You guys are forgetting Splint Mail! :mad:

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2001 10:20 pm
by Weasel
Best Full Plate Mail: The Holy Plate of Weasel +4, AC -2 , +1 to all saving throws, -1 to con and str. Immune to poison. 10% chance of going beserk on a successful hit. :D :D

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2001 11:52 pm
by Kayless
Sorry Weasel, I still think Sarevok's plate is better. :p ;)

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2001 1:47 am
by Xyx
You guys are forgetting Splint Mail!
If we're going for the "Poor Man's Best Choice" award, I'd certainly agree.

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2001 1:59 am
by TheDude
Originally posted by Xyx:
<STRONG>If we're going for the "Poor Man's Best Choice" award, I'd certainly agree.</STRONG>

ROFL :D :D

hmm do i get the feeling no one is really using splint mail??? :D :D

btw i also think Red Dragon scale is the best plate armor.

Shadow Dragon Scale is the best stunned leather
and The night gift is the best leather (if u don't want to play evil or have a non evil char.)

[ 06-14-2001: Message edited by: TheDude ]

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2001 2:21 am
by Xyx
hmm do i get the feeling no one is really using split male???
Heh, go ahead and laugh now, but in BG1 I put that stuff on anyone that could wear it as soon as I had the money.

Of course, BG2 characters have a hard time fitting into the definition of "poor"... Was anyone impressed with the results of the "I wish to be rich!" wish? Gets you pocket change!

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2001 10:42 am
by Crassus
I'm playing SoA with ToB installed. With the red dragon armor, I found that I could not wear the ring of protection +2, the ring of protection +1 or the cloak of protection +1, although I can wear other AC-enhancing items such as the Ring of Gaax, the ring of earth elemental control and the Cloak of the Sewers.

This is with ToB installed - anyone think it's possible that ToB changes the red dragon armor to magical from non-magical?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2001 10:53 am
by tyco
I had the same experience with the Red Dragon Armor! In SoA I had Korgan wear the Red Dragon Armor and a Ring of Protection +2 and things were great. After I imported my party into ToB I didn't notice a difference at first but when I was having Korgan try on some different armor I couldn't go back to
putting on the Red Dragon Armor with the Ring of Protection +2.
So, I think that in ToB the Red Dragon Armor is now treated as magical!

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2001 11:28 am
by Crassus
Which is a shame because the red dragon armor has such a good AC. I generally prefer non-magical armor plus a cloak or ring of protection over magical armor because of the saving throw bonus, i.e. non-magical full plate plus a cloak of protection +1 has the same AC as full plate +1, but you get -1 to your saving throws. In any case, I'm sure there are even better armors available in ToB.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2001 4:46 pm
by Masteraleph
Ye, in TOB red dragon plate is now magical. Actually, that's correcting a mistake from SOA. C'mon, it's from a DRAGON for god's sakes, you don't think it's magical?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2001 9:24 pm
by glory
Forget all these...those in TOB make them all look like school girl outfits.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2001 1:37 am
by Xyx
Ye, in TOB red dragon plate is now magical. Actually, that's correcting a mistake from SOA. C'mon, it's from a DRAGON for god's sakes, you don't think it's magical?
The Ring of Gaxx, of course, only goes with the Ring of Protection +2 because it isn't enchanted... Yeah, right!

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2001 1:39 am
by White Rabbit
You guys forget that bladeslinger turns into Aslyferund Elven Chain +5, which is an amazing piece of armor for Rogues. Also anybody else noticed that in ToB Red Dragon Scale cannot be used with +ac items. It must be considered magical now! :mad: :eek: BUMMER :eek: :mad: !!!

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2001 2:55 am
by ReignsOfPower
I don't have it yet but, doesn't anyone use the Big Metal Unit?

Whats it look like when is is equiped...or more correctly, what do you look like when it is equiped?

I dunno why you guys are complaing about the red dragon scale. The Big Metal Unit Reigns above it. -10 non magical 5% Magic Resistance.

Anyone tried the White Dragon Scale?? Any good?

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2001 2:57 am
by ReignsOfPower
About the upgraded armour for the Fighter Mages.

I dont know about you but, I still think that the Robe of Venca is still the best Mage/Armour in the game.

Casting speed reduction with Improved Alacritiy is VERY deadly.