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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 1:13 pm
by Lestat
[QUOTE=Magrus]*coughs* I think I finally found something in what Bush has seen done in the US that I like. I could press charges on you for slander boy.[/QUOTE]
Defences to claims of defamation include:
  • Truth is an absolute defence for any claims of defamation.
  • Privilege is a defence when witness testimony, attorneys' arguments, and judges' decisions, rulings, and statements made in court, or statements by legislators on the floor of the legislature, are the cause for the claim. These statements are said to be privileged and cannot be cause for a defamation claim.
  • Opinion is a defence is recognized in nearly every jurisdiction. If the person makes a statement of opinion rather than a statement of fact, defamation claims usually cannot be brought because opinions are inherently not falsifiable. Some jurisdictions have eliminated the distinction between fact and opinion, and allow any statements suggesting a factual basis to support a defamation claim.
  • Fair comment on a matter of public interest, statements made with an honest belief in their truth on a matter of public interest (official acts) are defenses to a defamation claim, even if such arguments are logically unsound; if a reasonable person could "honestly entertain" such an opinion, the statement is protected.
  • Consent is an uncommon defence and makes the claim that the claimant consented to the dissemination of the statement.
  • Innocent dissemination is defence in some cases. Defendants are not liable for innocently disseminating defamatory statements–in situations where the defendant had no actual knowledge of defamation and/or no reason to believe the statement was defamatory (and if negligence did not cause the defendants' lack of knowledge). The United States Postal Service, for example, cannot be liable for delivering a defamatory letter (although they would likely claim sovereign immunity anyway).
  • Claimant is incapable of further defamation–e.g., the claimants' position in the community is so poor that even if the statement was defamatory there can be not actual damage to the plaintiff, failing the fourth requirement for a justified libel claim. These claimants' are "libel-proof."
I'll let you guess which strategy of defence I reccomend for Damuna :p

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 1:16 pm
by Magrus
:rolleyes: Personally I don't care. I may be a dirty pervert, but I take incredible offense to that.

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 1:19 pm
by ch85us2001
EDIT for the more (emotionally) sensitive among us.

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 1:20 pm
by Magrus
You know what, **** all three of you.

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 1:22 pm
by Aramant
[QUOTE=Magrus]You know what, **** all three of you.[/QUOTE]
You can't SAY that on here!

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 1:25 pm
by Magrus
*shakes my head* Frankly, I don't give a damn. I'm done here.

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 1:27 pm
by ch85us2001
I feel obligated to apoligize, but since you've repeatedly said you had me on ignore, I figure you wont hear anyway.

Cant you see it was in good humor? Bah.

*retreats back to happyland*

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 1:36 pm
by Magrus
[QUOTE=ch85us2001]I feel obligated to apoligize, but since you've repeatedly said you had me on ignore, I figure you wont hear anyway.

Cant you see it was in good humor? Bah.

*retreats back to happyland*[/QUOTE]

Lumping me with rapists is not in "good humor". I may be a pervert, and I may say whatever comes to mind, and yes, I have dated girls under 18 when I was 18 and above. However, I have never forced myself on anyone, nor manipulated anyone into a sexual situation. I have never even taken advantage of a drunk girl like so many males do. That is a horrible attempt at a joke and an obscene insult and I won't take it.

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 1:43 pm
by Lestat
OK sorry for the remarks, I didn't know you were that serious in your first remark.

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 2:18 pm
by ch85us2001
[QUOTE=Magrus]Lumping me with rapists is not in "good humor". I may be a pervert, and I may say whatever comes to mind, and yes, I have dated girls under 18 when I was 18 and above. However, I have never forced myself on anyone, nor manipulated anyone into a sexual situation. I have never even taken advantage of a drunk girl like so many males do. That is a horrible attempt at a joke and an obscene insult and I won't take it.[/QUOTE]
I said nothing to that end, thankyouverymuch.

And, as Lestat said, your remark didnt seem like you were very serious.

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 2:30 pm
by Darzog
I think the reference that he is a sexual predator was one of the things to set it off (if that's not the case just say so). That term specifically implies a sex offender to most people ([url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_predator"]Wiki article[/url]).
[quote="Wiki]sexual predator is used pejoratively about a person who is seen as obtaining or trying to obtain sexual intercourse in a metaphorically predatory manner. Analogous to how a predator hunts down its prey"]

Now I doubt you meant it in that way, in fact when I first read it I took it similarly to a sexual deviant. But am I the only one that has seen tempers flying around a lot lately (including myself in the DaVinci thread)?

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 2:32 pm
by ch85us2001
@ Darzog's temper comment: Yep. SYM hormones must be raging (my own included). ;)

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 2:56 pm
by Luis Antonio
[QUOTE=ch85us2001]@ Darzog's temper comment: Yep. SYM hormones must be raging (my own included). ;) [/QUOTE]

Ooooh, its a bad period.

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 2:58 pm
by dragon wench
[QUOTE=Luis Antonio]Ooooh, its a bad period.[/QUOTE]

*distributes Midol c0cktails to the whole of SYM* :p

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 3:00 pm
by Ravager
Does this have any side-effects, like amnesia or delirious happiness? (Please! :p )

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 3:30 pm
by dragon wench
[QUOTE=Ravager]Does this have any side-effects, like amnesia or delirious happiness? (Please! :p )[/QUOTE]

[url="http://www.midol.com/index.asp"]Midol[/url] :D

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 3:41 pm
by Lestat
I, for one, feel ready to become a Midol Idol. :)

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:17 pm
by Ashen
[QUOTE=ch85us2001]@ Darzog's temper comment: Yep. SYM hormones must be raging (my own included). ;) [/QUOTE]

It's that time of the month :)

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:37 pm
by Ravager
[QUOTE=Lestat]I, for one, feel ready to become a Midol Idol. :) [/QUOTE]
Ohh, who'd want to miss such an opportunity? :laugh:

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 5:33 pm
by Luis Antonio
Its a full moon, fer sure.