super mario RPG is what got me started so it's number 1
all the FF's are close tho...FF 1, 7, 8 are the best of FF
Favorite RPG Of All Time
My favorite RPGs:
-Chrono Trigger (still love this game to death after all this time lol)
-Final Fantasy 7 (best of the FF series, didnt think that much of 8 and basically havent played them since then)
-Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 + xpac (completely owned)
-Fable (great game but as i can remember it was really short)
-Dark Age of Camelot (yea yea i know it's an mmo and all =P)
Havent played icewind dale, Planescape: Torment, kotor1 or 2, nwn 1 or 2 yet.
I'd say i liked Diablo 1 and was thoroughly disappointed with Diablo 2+xpac, found that Morrowind was fun but nothing amazing, and was disappointed with FF8. I'd like to put ninja gaiden up there but i guess it's classified as 'action' lol. Oh and FF Tactics was a lot of fun but i wouldnt say one of my 'favorites'.
I was hoping for bg3 to come out and then what i got was nwn, and i decided to not buy it at the time. Although i might be purchasing hte diamond edition soon to give it a go
-Chrono Trigger (still love this game to death after all this time lol)
-Final Fantasy 7 (best of the FF series, didnt think that much of 8 and basically havent played them since then)
-Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 + xpac (completely owned)
-Fable (great game but as i can remember it was really short)
-Dark Age of Camelot (yea yea i know it's an mmo and all =P)
Havent played icewind dale, Planescape: Torment, kotor1 or 2, nwn 1 or 2 yet.
I'd say i liked Diablo 1 and was thoroughly disappointed with Diablo 2+xpac, found that Morrowind was fun but nothing amazing, and was disappointed with FF8. I'd like to put ninja gaiden up there but i guess it's classified as 'action' lol. Oh and FF Tactics was a lot of fun but i wouldnt say one of my 'favorites'.
I was hoping for bg3 to come out and then what i got was nwn, and i decided to not buy it at the time. Although i might be purchasing hte diamond edition soon to give it a go
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Heksefatter
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The very best:
Baldur's Gate I and II. First game that caught me enough that I couldn't play it through with another character - it would be trespassing on my original character's story. Splendid side quests.
Fallout 1 and 2. Loved the retro-future. Like the main story of the first the most, but the side-quests of the second game were fantastic. Loved my marriage and annoying the hell out of a doctor from whom I was collecting protection money.
KotoR I. Perfect Star Wars athmophere, though this can be a double-edged sword, I quite liked it. Story fit and commented on the universe much better than the supposedly more nuanced Kotor II.
Almost there:
Arcanum. Interesting universe and some really great side quests. Great take on the generally stagnant RPG universes.
Planescape Torment. Great dialogue and plot. The gritty universe did turn me off a bit, however.
Vampire Bloodlines. Only RPG I've ever played that contained some decent puzzles. Great remake of the paranoid vampire universe if the pen and paper.
Baldur's Gate I and II. First game that caught me enough that I couldn't play it through with another character - it would be trespassing on my original character's story. Splendid side quests.
Fallout 1 and 2. Loved the retro-future. Like the main story of the first the most, but the side-quests of the second game were fantastic. Loved my marriage and annoying the hell out of a doctor from whom I was collecting protection money.
KotoR I. Perfect Star Wars athmophere, though this can be a double-edged sword, I quite liked it. Story fit and commented on the universe much better than the supposedly more nuanced Kotor II.
Almost there:
Arcanum. Interesting universe and some really great side quests. Great take on the generally stagnant RPG universes.
Planescape Torment. Great dialogue and plot. The gritty universe did turn me off a bit, however.
Vampire Bloodlines. Only RPG I've ever played that contained some decent puzzles. Great remake of the paranoid vampire universe if the pen and paper.
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On top Vampire Bloodlines, for all its flaws it gets so much right (namely a 'modernized' RPG implementation and excellent storytelling) which in my opinion is still all too often done wrong in other games. Next comes Chrono Trigger, the only game that almost cost me my grades. Thirdly Nethack, my very first RPG experience.
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Kotor1. Dont ask why, but it has a special feel...And the story is just so good
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After due consideration, Might & Magic VI.
For it's day it was streets ahead of it's competition, had a decent level of difficulty. M&M 7 was good and in some ways moved the game ahead, but was smaller, and obviously not as groundbreaking.
The Baldur's Gate series was really good, but had a few too many flaws for it to be my number 1.
Morrowind is No 3, could have been higher but it had too many freebies (Master Alchemy equipment ready and waiting for you fro example).
A Bard's Tale, simply because ones first love always stays with you.
A similar reason for Dungeon Master, the first game of it's type I ever played.
Betrayal at Krondor, not because it was a brilliant game, but because I loved the books, and this game gave me the feeling of almost being in the books. Being able to adventure with Jimmy the Hand, how cool is that?
For it's day it was streets ahead of it's competition, had a decent level of difficulty. M&M 7 was good and in some ways moved the game ahead, but was smaller, and obviously not as groundbreaking.
The Baldur's Gate series was really good, but had a few too many flaws for it to be my number 1.
Morrowind is No 3, could have been higher but it had too many freebies (Master Alchemy equipment ready and waiting for you fro example).
A Bard's Tale, simply because ones first love always stays with you.
A similar reason for Dungeon Master, the first game of it's type I ever played.
Betrayal at Krondor, not because it was a brilliant game, but because I loved the books, and this game gave me the feeling of almost being in the books. Being able to adventure with Jimmy the Hand, how cool is that?
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And everything is hidden in the fine print.[/QUOTE]
And everything is hidden in the fine print.[/QUOTE]
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In no particular order and mostly for nostalgic reasons, Dragon Warrior I, D&D Warriors of the Eternal Sun, Shining Force, Suikoden, BG I, Asheron's Call, KotOR, Morrowind/ Oblivion.
Nowadays you wouldn't catch me playing a Japanese style RPG though.
Heh, I think I put those chronologically by accident.
Nowadays you wouldn't catch me playing a Japanese style RPG though.
Heh, I think I put those chronologically by accident.
Are you not entertained!?
To say which RPG "changed" my life? Well, if you can say that "Eye of the Beholder 2" is a RPG, than this one 'changed' me.
And the one that I like the most? BG2 is on top of my list. And currently NW2. Liked also Fable TLC also, though.
And the one that I like the most? BG2 is on top of my list. And currently NW2. Liked also Fable TLC also, though.
Jump on my sword while you can, Evil.
I wont be as gentle.
I wont be as gentle.
Minsc - BG2 SoA
my favorite RPG aint out yet, I'm still waiting for it to come
I enjoyed a lot of RPGs but not in any I felt that this is the best..I'm waiting for a single player rpg that feels like a MMORPG but with a story and without the hustle of other players..I enjoyed WOW for a while but then I got bored since u need a lot of time to gain levels and there is no real story like the ones in KOTOR and Nwn.
not that I've played that many RPG anyway..frankly I discovered Rpg quiet lately, I havn't played older rpg like bg and morrowind, and I can't now since I'm used to a certain level of visual quality now
I enjoyed a lot of RPGs but not in any I felt that this is the best..I'm waiting for a single player rpg that feels like a MMORPG but with a story and without the hustle of other players..I enjoyed WOW for a while but then I got bored since u need a lot of time to gain levels and there is no real story like the ones in KOTOR and Nwn.
not that I've played that many RPG anyway..frankly I discovered Rpg quiet lately, I havn't played older rpg like bg and morrowind, and I can't now since I'm used to a certain level of visual quality now
"beware..the alien, the mutant, the heretic.."
Warriors of the Eternal Sun and Shining Force were AWESOME in their day!cyndric wrote:In no particular order and mostly for nostalgic reasons, Dragon Warrior I, D&D Warriors of the Eternal Sun, Shining Force, Suikoden, BG I, Asheron's Call, KotOR, Morrowind/ Oblivion.
Nowadays you wouldn't catch me playing a Japanese style RPG though.
Heh, I think I put those chronologically by accident.
I still play them occasionally. "You can do whatever you want to me."
"Oh, so I can crate you and hide you in the warehouse at the end of Raiders?"
"So funny, kiss me funny boy!" / *Sprays mace* " I know, I know, bad for the ozone"
"Oh, so I can crate you and hide you in the warehouse at the end of Raiders?"
"So funny, kiss me funny boy!" / *Sprays mace* " I know, I know, bad for the ozone"
Looks like we both share something in common. I also discovered RPGs very late too in 2000 when a friend of mine introduced me to my very first RPG, Final Fantasy VII. Before that, I was focused on RTS, action, and FPS titles. I also can't be bothered to play RPGs like Morrowind, Oblivion or Fallout because those games look and play strange to me.ARTillery wrote: not that I've played that many RPG anyway..frankly I discovered Rpg quiet lately, I havn't played older rpg like bg and morrowind, and I can't now since I'm used to a certain level of visual quality now
Up till now, even though I've played newer RPGs like the KOTOR series and Fable: The Lost Chapters, I still miss Final Fantasy VII for it's engaging plot and story and the interesting characters there. I know it's quite old but I still miss it. Both KOTOR and Fable have an interesting story but they still can't match up to the story/plot in Final Fantasy VII, in my honest opinion.
''They say truth is the first casualty of war. But who defines what's true? Truth is just a matter of perspective. The duty of every soldier is to protect the innocent, and sometimes that means preserving the lie of good and evil, that war isn't just natural selection played out on a grand scale. The only truth I found is that the world we live in is a giant tinderbox. All it takes...is someone to light the match" - Captain Price
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Gilliatt
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As a guy who discovered and played Final Fantasy VII only 6 months ago and enjoyed it a lot, I think it is still possible to enjoy an old game if it is very good. IMHO, you should give Baldur's Gate a try even if the graphics are outdated.
Dr. Stein grows funny creatures, lets them run into the night.
They become GameBanshee members, and their time is right.
- inspired by an Helloween song
They become GameBanshee members, and their time is right.
- inspired by an Helloween song
To me an RPG consists of essentially three things:
- A: Character development such as skills, attributes, perks, powers etc. Generally the more there is to choose from the better.
- B: Ability to affect storyline/quests by the choices you make. The more unique effect your actions has the better.
- C: Freedom. To be able to do most "quests" in the order you want. Sadly this often comes at cost of a good storyline.
Here is my top 10:
1. Fallout 2
Dialogs are superb in this game.
- A: Excellent. Lots of intresting skills perks to choose from
- B: Excellent. No game even comes close F2 here. Most quests can be solved in more then two UNIQUE ways. Most other games usually "isolates" one quest from another but not F2. What you do in one quest often has an affect on other quests to.
- C: Excellent. You can do/or not do most of the quests in any order you like.
2. Baldur's Gate 2
Story, dialogs and combat are all great
- A: Excellent. Many race/classes options to choose.
- B: Good. Most quests can be done in different ways although quests are a bit "isolated".
- C: Good. Most quests are non-linear but when the story takes you to the underdark you loose access to these quests. Great story makes up for this though.
3. Fallout 1
Same as F2 but not as big and funny dialogs.
- A: Excellent.
- B: Good.
- C: Excellent.
4. Baldur's Gate
Superb storyline. Great atmosphere
- A: Good
- B: OK
- C: Excellent.
5. Starwars KOTOR
Easy to "get into". Starwars good & evil
- A: Excellent.
- B: OK. The 1st time you play this game (I played as a good guy) you get the feeling that your actions really matters. However when playing it a second time you realize that
most of your actions have little or no inpact. Still, quest are more non-linear most modern games
- C: OK. Quests tend to be a little to story bound.
6. Starwars KOTOR 2
Same as original but less intresting main story.
- A: Excellent.
- B: OK. The 1st time I played this game I played as evil and I was quite frustrated that most people tended to ignore my evil dialog attempts when I provoked them
- C: OK. Quests tend to be a little to story bound.
7. Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines
Graphically stunning. Good atmosphere. Somewhat similiar to KOTOR in a vampire environment.
- A: OK. I would have loved to see some more options here.
- B: Good/OK.
- C: BAD.
8. Never winter nights 2
Relatively new game with gfx and sound Fresh
- A: Excellent. Many race/classes options to choose.
- B: OK. Although much much better than the first NWN it stills feels as tough most quest are a little linear. You always notice this when you play hardcore evil
- C: OK.
9. Planescape Torment
Maybe it deserves a higher ranking but I put it here because its NOT an easy game to "get into". The beginning is filled massive dialogs that is not that intresting the first time you play trought the game.
- A: OK.
- B: Good.
- C: Good.
10. Oblivion
Makes me mad as hell. Why oh why didn't they learn from Morrowinds mistakes. Gfx is SUPERB. Potential is SUPERP. But it fails at creating intresting
quest and character advancment.
- A: BAD. No choices to make. No "euphoria" level ups. You simply get better at what you use... wich is very boring
- B: BAD. Altough there are some quests that can be solved differently, most are very linear.
- C: Excellent. The best game in this category actually. Incredible freedom to just wander of and sightseeing in mother nature
It's quite sad to see so few non-linear quest games. I'm really hoping for Fallout 3 in the future. I really hope Bethesda implements point A & B better than they did in thier previous games.
- A: Character development such as skills, attributes, perks, powers etc. Generally the more there is to choose from the better.
- B: Ability to affect storyline/quests by the choices you make. The more unique effect your actions has the better.
- C: Freedom. To be able to do most "quests" in the order you want. Sadly this often comes at cost of a good storyline.
Here is my top 10:
1. Fallout 2
Dialogs are superb in this game.
- A: Excellent. Lots of intresting skills perks to choose from
- B: Excellent. No game even comes close F2 here. Most quests can be solved in more then two UNIQUE ways. Most other games usually "isolates" one quest from another but not F2. What you do in one quest often has an affect on other quests to.
- C: Excellent. You can do/or not do most of the quests in any order you like.
2. Baldur's Gate 2
Story, dialogs and combat are all great
- A: Excellent. Many race/classes options to choose.
- B: Good. Most quests can be done in different ways although quests are a bit "isolated".
- C: Good. Most quests are non-linear but when the story takes you to the underdark you loose access to these quests. Great story makes up for this though.
3. Fallout 1
Same as F2 but not as big and funny dialogs.
- A: Excellent.
- B: Good.
- C: Excellent.
4. Baldur's Gate
Superb storyline. Great atmosphere
- A: Good
- B: OK
- C: Excellent.
5. Starwars KOTOR
Easy to "get into". Starwars good & evil
- A: Excellent.
- B: OK. The 1st time you play this game (I played as a good guy) you get the feeling that your actions really matters. However when playing it a second time you realize that
most of your actions have little or no inpact. Still, quest are more non-linear most modern games
- C: OK. Quests tend to be a little to story bound.
6. Starwars KOTOR 2
Same as original but less intresting main story.
- A: Excellent.
- B: OK. The 1st time I played this game I played as evil and I was quite frustrated that most people tended to ignore my evil dialog attempts when I provoked them
- C: OK. Quests tend to be a little to story bound.
7. Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines
Graphically stunning. Good atmosphere. Somewhat similiar to KOTOR in a vampire environment.
- A: OK. I would have loved to see some more options here.
- B: Good/OK.
- C: BAD.
8. Never winter nights 2
Relatively new game with gfx and sound
Fresh- A: Excellent. Many race/classes options to choose.
- B: OK. Although much much better than the first NWN it stills feels as tough most quest are a little linear. You always notice this when you play hardcore evil
- C: OK.
9. Planescape Torment
Maybe it deserves a higher ranking but I put it here because its NOT an easy game to "get into". The beginning is filled massive dialogs that is not that intresting the first time you play trought the game.
- A: OK.
- B: Good.
- C: Good.
10. Oblivion
Makes me mad as hell. Why oh why didn't they learn from Morrowinds mistakes. Gfx is SUPERB. Potential is SUPERP. But it fails at creating intresting
quest and character advancment.
- A: BAD. No choices to make. No "euphoria" level ups. You simply get better at what you use... wich is very boring
- B: BAD. Altough there are some quests that can be solved differently, most are very linear.
- C: Excellent. The best game in this category actually. Incredible freedom to just wander of and sightseeing in mother nature
It's quite sad to see so few non-linear quest games. I'm really hoping for Fallout 3 in the future. I really hope Bethesda implements point A & B better than they did in thier previous games.