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Re: Looking through the eyes of a Tolkien purist...

Originally posted by Maharlika
I just had to enjoy the movie in another way. Boy did I love the cinematography. Suddenly I hear from my friends that the backpackers in Thailand are setting their eyes on New Zealand.

I think this movie is going to boost the NZ tourist industry...They are already marketing the locations where the movie were shot.

I'd better wait a couple of years before going back there

But I do hope...

Originally posted by C Elegans


I think this movie is going to boost the NZ tourist industry...They are already marketing the locations where the movie were shot.

I'd better wait a couple of years before going back there

...that the tourists themselves know how to keep these places the way they are supposed to be after leaving the place.

Re: But I do hope...

Originally posted by Maharlika
...that the tourists themselves know how to keep these places the way they are supposed to be after leaving the place.

I would guess most people going to have a look at the NZ wilderness are "eco-tourists", ie they want to experience the scenery and they know how to miniminze erosion and disturbance of wildlife. Also, NZ as a country is the most ecologically aware place I've ever been to, they have zillions of nature preservations programs and I'm sure they'll take care of their beautiful landscape

I, however, like isolation, so I might just wait a while before going back to NZ. It's also very far

Nice to hear that, CE...

Originally posted by C Elegans


I would guess most people going to have a look at the NZ wilderness are "eco-tourists", ie they want to experience the scenery and they know how to miniminze erosion and disturbance of wildlife. Also, NZ as a country is the most ecologically aware place I've ever been to, they have zillions of nature preservations programs and I'm sure they'll take care of their beautiful landscape

I, however, like isolation, so I might just wait a while before going back to NZ. It's also very far

...well, you could visit Thailand (again) then we both go to Angkor Wat in Cambodia. When my SO comes here, the four of us (I assume you'd bring the hubby too ) can pick some nice spot and each couple could have some nice "isolated" heaven on earth.

Re: Nice to hear that, CE...

Originally posted by Maharlika
...well, you could visit Thailand (again) then we both go to Angkor Wat in Cambodia. When my SO comes here, the four of us (I assume you'd bring the hubby too ) can pick some nice spot and each couple could have some nice "isolated" heaven on earth.

Sounds great I've actually been thinking of going to Cambodia, when I visited Thailand 2.5 years ago I met a lovely lady from Cambodia who told me about the country My best friend is currently in Thailand with her fiance and their little son, I think it's the 4th time she visits Thailand - many Swedes love the place
If I go to Thailand again, which I certainly do at some point, the hubby will most likely come too since he hasn't been there. I went by myself last time, I mostly travel alone.

Originally posted by Silur
She survived. She also thought that the film was complete crap I kind of liked it, not having that high expectations. But then, I read Marvel comic books when I was a kid, she didn't. The motorbike, however, was ridiculous (although I wouldn't mind taking a ride on one that fast ). Given this new perspective, I must say LoTR isn't that bad

Oh it was, but vaguely entertaining in a cheesy way I watched the animated cartoon, that was quite decent, probably better than the film

@DD, i think it would have been better if Peter Jackson tried to do his own film, rather than attempting to convert the book to film in the guise of "How Tolkein Wanted It", i always view film making as a personal thing, if you are taking someone elses vision then one should make it their own and work from their, i dont think he did that.

Posted by Der-D:
Aside from that though, I really loved the script. I thought that for the most part the writers really tried to be true to Tolkien's language and tone, even during the parts when the dialogue wasn't lifted right from the book.

Yes, there are some parts where they've put parts of Tolkien's description into the movie dialogue, it worked well

Posted by Silur:
@Georgi: Moulin Rouge? Thanks for the tip. I'll see it. My guess it's on the theme "boy doesn't get girl". Have any tips on the "darth vader wins" genre?

Well, I'll let you see it... IMO it does have a rather Shakespearian quality to it. Ummm... the best one I can think of currently is Usual Suspects... it's not exactly Darth Vader wins, but it has a good ending

Posted by Maharlika:
One of them the lack of characterization and development between the uncommon friendship between Legolas and Gimli. (I just loved that contest they had during the siege at Helm's Deep.)

Hopefully it will be developed more over the next two movies though.

Originally posted by Mr Sleep
@DD, i think it would have been better if Peter Jackson tried to do his own film, rather than attempting to convert the book to film in the guise of "How Tolkein Wanted It", i always view film making as a personal thing, if you are taking someone elses vision then one should make it their own and work from their, i dont think he did that.

I think he did do that... It's possible for it to represent his own vision of the books and still be fairly faithful to the books... As to how Tolkien wanted it, well... he didn't

For everyone waiting with baited breath for the next instalment - I found this on Ian McKellan's website, I believe the topic was mentioned some time back:

Q: My question refers to the Balrog. It was a truly amazing scene in the first film and I hunger for more exposure to Durin's Bane. Can you confirm that we will see more of Gandalf's battle with the Balrog: perhaps as a flashback when Gandalf tells the tale of his battle against such a powerful foe?

A: Your question would be better addressed to Peter Jackson who is currently editing and preparing The Two Towers in Wellington, New Zealand. But we have filmed sequences which could be part of a flashback to Gandalf's fate after his fall from the bridge in the Moria Mines.

And today's Tolkien tidbit...

Treebeard is apparently done with a combination of animatronics and CGI, and will be voiced by John Rhys-Davies.

Will this be a daily occurence Georgi?

Will you be becoming our resident Tolkien expert/gossiper.

Originally posted by Tamerlane
Will this be a daily occurence Georgi?

Will you be becoming our resident Tolkien expert/gossiper.

I doubt I will discover something new everyday Still, when I do, I'll be sure to share

(I don't really think I can claim to be a Tolkien expert compared to some people here )

Re: And today's Tolkien tidbit...

Originally posted by Georgi
Treebeard is apparently done with a combination of animatronics and CGI, and will be voiced by John Rhys-Davies.

That should be cool, he has such a distinctive voice

Re: Re: And today's Tolkien tidbit...

Originally posted by Mr Sleep
That should be cool, he has such a distinctive voice

Although will it be distinctively different from Gimli?

Re: Re: Re: And today's Tolkien tidbit...

Originally posted by Georgi


Although will it be distinctively different from Gimli?

Well, Gimli is going to be played by Charleston Heston walking on his knees, so that should definitely work.

Re: Re: Re: And today's Tolkien tidbit...

Originally posted by Georgi
Although will it be distinctively different from Gimli?

Wasn't Treebeard the one that said hoot and hoom all the time?

Should obviously sound different from Gimli then, or so I hope.

Re: Re: Re: Re: And today's Tolkien tidbit...

Originally posted by Tamerlane
Wasn't Treebeard the one that said hoot and hoom all the time?

Should obviously sound different from Gimli then, or so I hope.

Yes, but that would only sound as different as the same actor speaking different lines, no?

Well, I presume they will be different enough, they wouldn't have done it otherwise.