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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2001 12:58 pm
by nael
i'm going to give blood later this evening.
i have to wait for the alcohol to be otu of my system and get water in so i don't pass out while giving.
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2001 12:58 pm
by Xandax
Originally posted by nael:
<STRONG>why would oil prices be effected?
i can understand if several markets fall dramtically, but oil should be uneffected. i heard that abotu the price raising as well, i just don't think it makes sense.
but then again, nothign has made sense today</STRONG>
Uncertaincy of world "status" will always cause uncertancy in world economics.
Therefore people/companies/nations would want to secure enought oil to cover demands for a periode of time, whereas international demand increases and causes prices to increase.
[ 09-11-2001: Message edited by: Xandax ]
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2001 12:59 pm
by Sailor Saturn
Originally posted by craig:
<STRONG>I've just seen this two things spring to mind
WWIII and if they are willing to give their lives to put through their messege(whatever the phsycos messege is) dieing isn't going to stop all of them, more of the cult if their smart as it seems(make them come to one place blow that up) they won't let all of them get caught.
And why did the twin towers calapse most the damage was near the top did it shake it like and earth quake would? there has to have been a bomb.</STRONG>
There were bombs. One supposedly on the plane and another planted in the building.
Also, the the airplane hit near the top of a giant "stick." If you hit a telephone pole hard near the top, it will effect the base.
I can only guess based on what I saw, but it appeared that there were about 20-30 stories above the impact point in Tower 2 and 10-20 stories above the impact point in Tower 1. The structural damage caused by the impacts, plus the damaged caused by fires was just too much for the buildings to handle...
I just heard a moment ago that a building next to where Tower 1 was is in danger of collapsing due to damage caused by the collapse of Tower 1.
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2001 12:59 pm
by Craig
But who would do this
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2001 1:00 pm
by Bloodstalker
I just want to take a moment to thank everyone on this board for their compassion and good thoughts. It is nice to know that regardless of where people are from, some things make us all the same.
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2001 1:01 pm
by Xandax
Originally posted by craig:
<STRONG>But who would do this</STRONG>
Nobody knows.
People speculations goes to either a "infamous" terroris called Ossam Bin Laden or some other middel east, or far east terrorist group or even some nations.
Bin Laden and a couple of nations seems most likely to be able to pull this off.
It takes immense planning and much funding.
[ 09-11-2001: Message edited by: Xandax ]
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2001 1:01 pm
by Craig
Dominos in effect...
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2001 1:01 pm
by nael
i have a friend who is heavily involved in politica up in DC. he emailed me sayign that he was but that the entire city is locked down. he has heard unconfirmed reports of several carbombs being found in the city...
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2001 1:01 pm
by Darkpoet
Thorin, I am so sorry. I know how you and your friend feels. I lost my cousin today.
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2001 1:02 pm
by Yshania
Posted by CE -
There will probably be several hours until any official information is released...It must have been a vast number of killed and injured in such a dense area...
Sadly I think it will be more like days, running into weeks before they can go on no longer...just the reckage of the two towers is immense
Posted by CE -
Like you and Xan I wish there was something I could do, but I can't even donate blood - to low body weight...
I used to give blood all the time but then got into the habit of passing out hours after. The act of giving blood did not bother me whatsoever, I just started fainting later...
I will try again - it has been a couple of years...
Give a pint and have a half of Guinness that should help a little (my midwife once told me Guinnes was good for blood loss
)
I am slight of build too - maybe that might have something to do with it...*shrug* I am heavier now - I think...
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2001 1:03 pm
by Sailor Saturn
Originally posted by nael:
<STRONG>why would oil prices be effected?
i can understand if several markets fall dramtically, but oil should be uneffected. i heard that abotu the price raising as well, i just don't think it makes sense.
but then again, nothign has made sense today</STRONG>
[url="http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/CNBCTV/Articles/Dispatches/P6258.asp"]CNBC TV: Twin Terror Attacks Leave US Reeling[/url]
^That tells about the financial effects in the US and in other countries caused by this.
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2001 1:04 pm
by Darkpoet
Originally posted by Yshania:
<STRONG>I used to give blood all the time but then got into the habit of passing out hours after. The act of giving blood did not bother me whatsoever, I just started fainting later...
I will try again - it has been a couple of years...
Give a pint and have a half of Guinness that should help a little (my midwife once told me Guinnes was good for blood loss
)
I am slight of build too - maybe that might have something to do with it...*shrug* I am heavier now - I think...</STRONG>
I would like to have a pint of Guinness, but I'm on call.
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2001 1:04 pm
by Craig
Originally posted by craig:
<STRONG>But who would do this</STRONG>
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2001 1:04 pm
by Xandax
Originally posted by nael:
<STRONG>i have a friend who is heavily involved in politica up in DC. he emailed me sayign that he was but that the entire city is locked down. he has heard unconfirmed reports of several carbombs being found in the city...</STRONG>
After a newsbullitin I have read around 10.35 (NY time) a car bomb has been detonated infrot of the Foreing affairs department (don't know its name)
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2001 1:05 pm
by nael
@craig - the answer is cowards
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2001 1:06 pm
by Xandax
Originally posted by craig:
<STRONG>
Originally posted by craig:
[qb]But who would do this</STRONG>
[/QB]
Read my post a couple of post futher up Craig, I answerd your question there.
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2001 1:08 pm
by Craig
I still wouldn't think the towers would fall into its self
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2001 1:08 pm
by Xandax
Well people - I better turn in and try to get some sleep, there is another day tomorrow, and hopefully democracy has prevailed and grown even stronger.
Again - my thoughts goes to the affected of this.
See you all tomorrow, and take care of each other, it is needed today.
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2001 1:08 pm
by Yshania
Posted by Blood stalker -
I just want to take a moment to thank everyone on this board for their compassion and good thoughts. It is nice to know that regardless of where people are from, some things make us all the same.
It really is amazing isn't it? For weeks we have complained about how quiet the board is then so many are dropping in to share condolences with their friends...it has really warmed my heart tonight
I am not saying it takes a tragedy to bring us together, what I am admiring is the amount of people that have come to share...to remember they have friends here...
[ 09-11-2001: Message edited by: Yshania ]
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2001 1:10 pm
by Nippy
BBC have a theory that the pilots were actually part of the whole deal. Could it be possible that they would train their whole lives to die? It's awful...absolutely awful. I cannot comprehend the chaos, damage and emotional scarring. I just read my last post and it was rather violent. I apologise for that. I however offer my condolences to all involved.
To any who have lost family, friends anybody who you even met once I sympathise with you. I hope that you can recover not physically but emotionally. May all those that have lost their lives Rest in Peace. May the people who have lost family or friends recover. I hope that people do not consider these words condescending or patronising. These words are truly meant and I do mean what I say. I hope that many of the injured can be saved.
DP I feel for your loss. I'm not a relegious person but my thoughts are with you. Thorin, I hope your dad will be Ok and that your friend can at least be comforted in his time of need.
I would like to say one last thing.
America has always been close to Britain, even after the war of independance we still fought side by side defeating an enemy of the world. The people that perpertrated these acts are in the same position. The entire world will come down on their head and they will suffer.
May all those that have lost their lives rest in peace.