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Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:23 pm
by ch85us2001
[QUOTE=TonyMontana1638]So what's the matter OS?[/QUOTE]
Anything I can fix? *cracks Knuckles, gets cuddly*

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:30 pm
by Oscuro_Sol
[QUOTE=TonyMontana1638]So what's the matter OS?[/QUOTE]
Meh.

There's all these stupid homophobes and racists in my school. It's been going on forever, it does in all schools, there's always gonna be people like that. But today I just felt on the verge of tears from 11am to now. In my health class we were watching a video about self esteem and when it's over my friend Chris (might of told you about him before, he the heavily Christian-homophobe-racist sonuvabitch) comes over to me and the first words out of his mouth are "these videos are so stupid."

I didn't say anything because I wanted to keep my temper under control - these videos are trying to HELP us, man.
I dunno how the conversation started, but some other guys at my table were talking about people standing up for something or whatever, I didn't really hear. And I said, "I was sooo happy when Elton John got married."
And they just stare at me and say, Who. "That guy," I said and they all exchange glances and there's kind of a silence and one of the guys mutters to his friend, "Elton John deserves to be shot."

And that really caught me off guard. I'm "Why!? Because he's gay? Oh my god. You bastard."
And so I yell at them a bit.

And Chris starts talking about John Lennon, which I find so incredibly stupid because the only thing he knows about Lennon is that he was with the Beatles and that he did drugs. All he can say about him is that he's a druggie, a junkie. I'm still angry, and I'm trying to explain to him how many people he influenced and how everyone knows his name, how he made a lasting impression on people. Because Chris is going on about how Lennon wasted his life because he did drugs. Which got me angrier.

I'm saying to him, "God, he's not only a rock and roll king, he's DEAD, you pig!"

And he just says, "Yeah, he's probably in Hell."

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:37 pm
by ch85us2001
[QUOTE=Oscuro_Sol]Meh.

There's all these stupid homophobes and racists in my school. It's been going on forever, it does in all schools, there's always gonna be people like that. But today I just felt on the verge of tears from 11am to now. In my health class we were watching a video about self esteem and when it's over my friend Chris (might of told you about him before, he the heavily Christian-homophobe-racist sonuvabitch) comes over to me and the first words out of his mouth are "these videos are so stupid."

I didn't say anything because I wanted to keep my temper under control - these videos are trying to HELP us, man.
I dunno how the conversation started, but some other guys at my table were talking about people standing up for something or whatever, I didn't really hear. And I said, "I was sooo happy when Elton John got married."
And they just stare at me and say, Who. "That guy," I said and they all exchange glances and there's kind of a silence and one of the guys mutters to his friend, "Elton John deserves to be shot."

And that really caught me off guard. I'm "Why!? Because he's gay? Oh my god. You bastard."
And so I yell at them a bit.

And Chris starts talking about John Lennon, which I find so incredibly stupid because the only thing he knows about Lennon is that he was with the Beatles and that he did drugs. All he can say about him is that he's a druggie, a junkie. I'm still angry, and I'm trying to explain to him how many people he influenced and how everyone knows his name, how he made a lasting impression on people. Because Chris is going on about how Lennon wasted his life because he did drugs. Which got me angrier.

I'm saying to him, "God, he's not only a rock and roll king, he's DEAD, you pig!"

And he just says, "Yeah, he's probably in Hell."[/QUOTE]
You'll have that, unfortunately. :(


Very, Very few people deserve death. And really, it doesnt matter if you deserve it or not, it's going to happen when it wants to.


And keep in mind, some people do things just to agitate. Some people who are jerks now will grow up to be good people.


This world needs more love, not more hate.


Love thy enemy. :)

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:39 pm
by Athena
Yeah what Chu said, OS. But I'd change the line to 'Know your enemy'.
My Simple advice:
Life is too short to complain about other people's lifestyles.
I understand why you are mad. :rolleyes:

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:41 pm
by TonyMontana1638
[QUOTE=Oscuro_Sol]And he just says, "Yeah, he's probably in Hell."[/QUOTE]
If hell is reserved for people like John Lennon and heaven for people like 'Chris' then I'm more than content with burning.

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:42 pm
by Oscuro_Sol
[QUOTE=ch85us2001]You'll have that, unfortunately. :(

Very, Very few people deserve death. And really, it doesnt matter if you deserve it or not, it's going to happen when it wants to.

And keep in mind, some people do things just to agitate. Some people who are jerks now will grow up to be good people.

This world needs more love, not more hate.

Love thy enemy. :) [/QUOTE]
He's not trying to agitate me. He's brainwashed.

I don't love him, I don't like him, he's truly one of the only people in the entire world that I actually hate. And I mean really hate.
No one deserves to be discriminated against.

Another thing I forgot to mention before:
After the self esteem video, he tells me how racist the video was. I stare at me, I have no idea what he's talking about. He tells me, "Well, they only interviewed black people!"
I'm just gaping at him, mostly all I can say is "What the hell! It's New York, they have a million different cultures and races there! I can't even believe you focussed on that -- I didn't even notice, and it's one of your priorities?"

So he thought the video was racist. I feel like I'm going to throw up.
What if it had been all white people? Would he have called it racist? Of course not.

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:42 pm
by Phreddie
Unles you plan on being a very violent official, or misusing the power of a Church office, you wont burn, you'll suffer, but you wont burn.

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:44 pm
by Oscuro_Sol
[QUOTE=Athena]Yeah what Chu said, OS. But I'd change the line to 'Know your enemy'.
My Simple advice:
Life is too short to complain about other people's lifestyles.
I understand why you are mad. :rolleyes: [/QUOTE]
I just wish people weren't so...
I don't know if there's even a word for it. :(

[QUOTE=TonyMontana1638]If hell is reserved for people like John Lennon and heaven for people like 'Chris' then I'm more than content with burning.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Tony, so would I... god, he's so homophobic it's not believable. It disgusts me. I just want to claw his eyes out, I'm dead serious.

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:45 pm
by TonyMontana1638
[QUOTE=Phreddie]Unles you plan on being a very violent official, or misusing the power of a Church office, you wont burn, you'll suffer, but you wont burn.[/QUOTE]
Erm... Whatever, I think you get what I mean.

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:45 pm
by ch85us2001
[QUOTE=Oscuro_Sol]

I don't love him, I don't like him, he's truly one of the only people in the entire world that I actually hate. And I mean really hate.[/QUOTE]
I imagine you'll have that too.

It could be that he was raised that way, and never knew any better.

Or he could be a total pig. Or both. *shrug*

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:47 pm
by Oscuro_Sol
[QUOTE=ch85us2001]I imagine you'll have that too.

It could be that he was raised that way, and never knew any better.

Or he could be a total pig. Or both. *shrug*[/QUOTE]
Both.

He was raised that way - but his parents, though. WHY are people like that? Why do they feel that they need to mouth off gays and blacks? How do they get that way?

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:50 pm
by TonyMontana1638
[QUOTE=Oscuro_Sol]Both.

He was raised that way - but his parents, though. WHY are people like that? Why do they feel that they need to mouth off gays and blacks? How do they get that way?[/QUOTE]
Sense of superiority derived from their own insecurities, machismo male posturing particularly in groups... Stupidity.

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:51 pm
by ch85us2001
[QUOTE=Oscuro_Sol]

He was raised that way - but his parents, though. WHY are people like that? Why do they feel that they need to mouth off gays and blacks? How do they get that way?[/QUOTE]
My Grandfather, (before he passed away) was somewhat like that. He wouldnt watch movies with "Special Needs" people, or Gays in them. I guess he just Grew uo in the 30's, and that's how they thought back then. Now, he wouldn;t say anything about these people, but he didn't want anything to do with them.


We had a big to do when one of my buddies came out. Everyone was like "I cant believe I slept in the same tent" and all that. I calmly replied "Did he ever try anythng" . . . "Well I Guees not.". So, I replied, "Whats the problem?'

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:52 pm
by Damuna_Nova
[QUOTE=Oscuro_Sol]Thanks Tony, so would I... god, he's so homophobic it's not believable. It disgusts me. I just want to claw his eyes out, I'm dead serious.
*snip*
He was raised that way - but his parents, though. WHY are people like that? Why do they feel that they need to mouth off gays and blacks? How do they get that way?
[/QUOTE]

Do you have his MSN address? :D

"Mouthing off"...hehe, "mouthing off" gays.

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:53 pm
by Oscuro_Sol
@DN, he doesn't have MSN.

[QUOTE=TonyMontana1638]Sense of superiority derived from their own insecurities, machismo male posturing particularly in groups... Stupidity.[/QUOTE]
It disgusts me so much, it makes me want to scream and sob.
Especially when they slag off people who're dead, like Lennon, and Freddie Mercury. They have no, NO respect for the dead, I just can't stand it, I can't live properly with it.
And everyone seems to think I'm a lesbian or something because I'm the only ****ing person in the whole goddamn school who'll stick up for homosexuals! God, what is WRONG with everyone?!

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:53 pm
by TonyMontana1638
[QUOTE=ch85us2001]My Grandfather, (before he passed away) was somewhat like that. He wouldnt watch movies with "Special Needs" people, or Gays in them. I guess he just Grew uo in the 30's, and that's how they thought back then. Now, he wouldn;t say anything about these people, but he didn't want anything to do with them.[/QUOTE]
Don't even get me started on my grandpa... I admire and love him, but he made the most racist joke I've ever heard in my entire life at a Lions game once and I never thought the same about him since. I was 11.

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:54 pm
by Athena
Maybe someday he will go where he is a minority and whitey will get his ass beat.
Sorry if that offended anyone.

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:56 pm
by ch85us2001
[QUOTE=Athena]Maybe someday he will go where he is a minority and whitey will get his ass beat.
Sorry if that offended anyone.[/QUOTE]
Nope. ;)


Urban people in General scare me . . . they scare my African American friend from downhome too. :p

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 8:02 pm
by Phreddie
Yarr, me says racist things to the peoples I am being racist against, but me says them in jest, and I escape with my treasure intact.

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 8:02 pm
by Damuna_Nova
[quote="OS]God"]

Well, if they're following the supposed doctrine of the God which is of the Christian faith to the letter, they'll be homophobes. :rolleyes:

Oke, received a message from Chu about the appropriateness of my last post.

I was trying to point out how the term "mouthing off" could be used to get back at homophobes by disgusting them. :D

@Kitten: Shame, Rav knows what I do to *******s. :mischief: