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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:52 pm
by ch85us2001
*Hands out pins toting the "Establishment Venting Ideas of Love"*
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:53 pm
by Ravager
[QUOTE=TonyMontana1638]I didn't think so, didn't it change under Disraeli? For some reason that always stuck in my head, but I couldn't be sure, I thought I may have imagined that...[/QUOTE]
It's possible the Whigs are now the Liberals, I'm not sure. Labour came around in the 20th century post WW1, from what I remember.
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:53 pm
by Fiona
Not sure. I know the Tories were deeply unpopular because of the corn laws and eventually they rebranded. It didn't take and they are still called tories cos that is what they are. And I can't remember at all what happened to the Whigs. But they turned into the Liberals for some reason
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:56 pm
by TonyMontana1638
[QUOTE=Fiona]Not sure. I know the Tories were deeply unpopular because of the corn laws and eventually they rebranded. It didn't take and they are still called tories cos that is what they are. And I can't remember at all what happened to the Whigs[/QUOTE]
I have no idea either but he was one of the figures of british politics/literature that interested me, so i know some stuff that happened during his time but not alot else... That's just one of those random things I seemed to remember. I don't even know what stances the whigs and tories really took on anything other than that they existed.
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:57 pm
by Fiona
Tories were originally thought to be pro-catholic and tory is actually a word for an Irish outlaw. They were never really called that at all.
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:01 pm
by Lestat
[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Whig_Party"]British Whig Party[/url]
I know wiki is not 100% accurate, but it's a start lady and gents.
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:01 pm
by TonyMontana1638
[QUOTE=Fiona]Tories were originally thought to be pro-catholic and tory is actually a word for an Irish outlaw. They were never really called that at all.[/QUOTE]
So... Tories were conservative?
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:02 pm
by Fiona
thieving bastards were conservative, yes
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:03 pm
by Lestat
Wiki again:
[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tory"]Tory[/url]
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:05 pm
by Ravager
[QUOTE=TonyMontana1638]So... Tories were conservative?[/QUOTE]
And still are by the use of the word in the media.
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:07 pm
by TonyMontana1638
[QUOTE=Fiona]thieving bastards were conservative, yes[/QUOTE]
*nods* Good, somebody got that.
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:12 pm
by Fiona
Yes, at one point the working class got it. Hence the labour party. But they forgot. And Blair stole the party. Like I said, he is a tory
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:17 pm
by Ravager
Yessssss....I was referring to official parlance though.
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:17 pm
by ch85us2001
*pins an E.V.I.L. badge to Fiona's forehead*
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:21 pm
by Fiona
My. For someone so peaceable I am acquiring enemies at a rate of knots lately. Good job I am not dependent on public acclaim :laugh:
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:22 pm
by TonyMontana1638
[QUOTE=Fiona]My. For someone so peaceable I am acquiring enemies at a rate of knots lately. Good job I am not dependent on public acclaim :laugh:[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't worry about it, chus hates everybody...
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:24 pm
by Fiona
I wasn't worrying about it till you said that. I did sooooo want to be special
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:26 pm
by Lestat
[QUOTE=TonyMontana1638]I wouldn't worry about it, chus hates everybody...
[/QUOTE]Either he hates them or he wants to marry them.
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:27 pm
by Fiona
Oh? I thought it was Slade who wanted to marry......well anyone really
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:27 pm
by TonyMontana1638
[QUOTE=Lestat]Either he hates them or he wants to marry them.[/QUOTE]
Who's to say the two desires should be separate? He is from ohio.